Poor CPU rating in benchmark

[aniltt93]

Getting below average performance rating for my cpu on benchmark site, with auto OC ON (using ryzen Master software) and no apps running,

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/21159749 ,

Want to know the reason why, also want to know if my ram model is possibly bottle-necking my cpu/system in anyway, it's CMK8GX4M1D3000C16 by Corsair.

Other hardware specs-
Motherboard - ASRock b450m pro4-f
PSU - Corsair VS450
Cooler - Antec C400


Thank you.

[Guest]

Is this always the case when running the benchmark multiple times? Cause your single core, 2-core, 8-core and 12-core values look all good, it's only the 4-core benchmark that's below average. This just looks like benchmark variance.

[ZephCloud]

nah..many people do an all core overclocked and run the benchmarks...that's why the scores are higher..=x

[RAM555789]

What speed are you running the RAM at and did you also watch temps during the test.

[aniltt93]

I always get about the same percentile rating on this site, these are some more benches that I did earlier (with 100% CPU usage warning, but I had nothing running) ,

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/21158778

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/21158677

 

I can't find the latest one I did with 3% usage, but it also had a similar percentile rating.

[aniltt93]

4 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

What speed are you running the RAM at and did you also watch temps during the test.

It's clocked at 3000mhz, with xmp 2.0.. it's base is 2400 MHz.. 

 

And no, I did not monitors temps, didn't think it was necessary. I also only got a timespy score of 6371 for my cpu,

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/9003944

[NelizMastr]

Btw, unrelated, that PSU is trash, please don't pair it with anything beefier than a RX570 and don't OC.

[aniltt93]

10 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

Btw, unrelated, that PSU is trash, please don't pair it with anything beefier than a RX570 and don't OC.

Yea I did read a lot of negative reviews about it, but got it anyways, welp,

 

And by OC u mean OC my cpu right? Or all OC in general?..

[MadmanRB]

Overclocking in general, that PSU is quite weak sorry to say.

 

Also let me perform a magic trick for the original poster..... excuse me

 

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/706714/poor-cpu-score/#entry4891728

[Deli]

Oh, that PSU is a potential bomb.

 

Could also be the cause of the low score, because the PSU can't supply stable 12V to the motherboard's VRM.

[aniltt93]

Ok , thanks folks.. I will upgrade and repost soon hopefully.

[Guest]

I have an other Idea. I just saw that you are only running 1 stick of RAM. In the benchmark results your CPU is consistently running ~10% slower than average. Running RAM in single channel instead of dual channel can definitely reduce performance by 10%, especially in benchmarks. Getting another 8GB stick could increase your performance.

[Vejnemojnen]

? running single module ram? That has half the bandwith of dual channel.

 

No wonder your cpu is underperforming. ..

[aniltt93]

27 minutes ago, Vejnemojnen said:

? running single module ram? That has half the bandwith of dual channel.

 

No wonder your cpu is underperforming. ..

half as in 3000mhz being half of 6000mhz right?.

[-rascal-]

1 hour ago, aniltt93 said:

half as in 3000mhz being half of 6000mhz right?.

 

The bandwidth of the communication between the CPU and system memory (RAM).

Single channel has a performance hit on Ryzen compared to dual channel.

Your RAM still runs at DDR4-3000 MHz...consider single channel = 2 lanes on a highway, and dual channel is 8 lanes on a highway.

 

If I am not mistaken, the CCX (communication line between each Ryzen core clusters)  on Ryzen 3000 is still tied to RAM frequency and bandwidth.

Faster RAM frequency, and running RAM in dual channel (vs single channel) speeds up the communication bus between each CPU core.

 

P.S.

The guy on bleepingcomputer.com saying your graphics card draws 450W ALONE, and you need a 600W  minimum....

Has no idea what he/she is talking about.

450W is for an ideal system -- entire PC (CPU, motherboard, RAM, GPU, etc).

A 450W ~ 500W is plenty, with headroom to spare.

[aniltt93]

3 hours ago, -rascal- said:

 

The bandwidth of the communication between the CPU and system memory (RAM).

Single channel has a performance hit on Ryzen compared to dual channel.

Your RAM still runs at DDR4-3000 MHz...consider single channel = 2 lanes on a highway, and dual channel is 8 lanes on a highway.

 

If I am not mistaken, the CCX (communication line between each Ryzen core clusters)  on Ryzen 3000 is still tied to RAM frequency and bandwidth.

Faster RAM frequency, and running RAM in dual channel (vs single channel) speeds up the communication bus between each CPU core.

 

P.S.

The guy on bleepingcomputer.com saying your graphics card draws 450W ALONE, and you need a 600W  minimum....

Has no idea what he/she is talking about.

450W is for an ideal system -- entire PC (CPU, motherboard, RAM, GPU, etc).

A 450W ~ 500W is plenty, with headroom to spare.

yea there are plenty of conflicting opinions about the wattage needed, many even comment that this particular brand of PSU that I'm using is not up to the mark in terms of quality even, but that remains to be seen.

I also ran Aida64, Cinebench and some more benches, and have attached the results, pls review,

 

https://valid.x86.fr/fdi8fc

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/9003944

 

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[-rascal-]

6 hours ago, aniltt93 said:

yea there are plenty of conflicting opinions about the wattage needed, many even comment that this particular brand of PSU that I'm using is not up to the mark in terms of quality even, but that remains to be seen.

I also ran Aida64, Cinebench and some more benches, and have attached the results, pls review,

 

https://valid.x86.fr/fdi8fc

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/9003944

 

 

The brand is not the problem -- Corsair is a reputable brand; they've been around for 25+ years now.

it's the 'VS' series PSU that you have. The build quality is not as good; the VS line is Corsair's most budget tier of PSUs.

To keep the cost of the PSU down, you need to compromised on a few things, and cut a few corners whenever possible.

 

Since people tend to run more than "typical office" gaming systems, where a graphics card can easily be $500+, CPU can be easily $300+...

People tend to spend a "reasonable" amount on the PSU.

Remember, the PSU is essentially the backbone/spine of your PC. If it dies, it can take down the entire PC with it.

If I'm spending $1000+ on gaming computer, I would budget for a higher grade PSU to safe guard my system.

 

When I bought my Sapphire NITRO R9-Fury's, they were $750 a piece graphics cards...and I have two. 

It would be dying on the inside if I buy a $50 PSU, it decides to blow up, and roast $1400+ worth of graphics cards.

 

 

Your Cinebench 20 scores are all in-line with other Ryzen R5 3600 results; you're within +/- 2%.

Just basing of the Cinebench results along, your CPU is working normally.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-5-3600-review,10.html

[aniltt93]

5 hours ago, -rascal- said:

 

The brand is not the problem -- Corsair is a reputable brand; they've been around for 25+ years now.

it's the 'VS' series PSU that you have. The build quality is not as good; the VS line is Corsair's most budget tier of PSUs.

To keep the cost of the PSU down, you need to compromised on a few things, and cut a few corners whenever possible.

 

Since people tend to run more than "typical office" gaming systems, where a graphics card can easily be $500+, CPU can be easily $300+...

People tend to spend a "reasonable" amount on the PSU.

Remember, the PSU is essentially the backbone/spine of your PC. If it dies, it can take down the entire PC with it.

If I'm spending $1000+ on gaming computer, I would budget for a higher grade PSU to safe guard my system.

 

When I bought my Sapphire NITRO R9-Fury's, they were $750 a piece graphics cards...and I have two. 

It would be dying on the inside if I buy a $50 PSU, it decides to blow up, and roast $1400+ worth of graphics cards.

 

 

Your Cinebench 20 scores are all in-line with other Ryzen R5 3600 results; you're within +/- 2%.

Just basing of the Cinebench results along, your CPU is working normally.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-5-3600-review,10.html

Yea the model is what I meant.

[aniltt93]

Results after RAM upgrade,

 

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/21280633

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/21280494

 

Cheers.