why 3600 and 3600x are so much faster then i7 8086k?

[linustechtipscom]

all 3 CPUs have 6 core 12 threads.

here are the specs for all three cpus 

Ryzen 5 3600      3.6GHz base, 4.2GHz  boost.

Ryzen 5 3600x    3.8GHz  base, 4.4GHz  boost.

Core i7 8086k      4.0GHz  base, 5.0GHz  boost. speeds bins 3/4/4/5/6/10 (with slowest core boosting to 4.3GHz)

 

Clearly 8086k should be faster, but it gets destroyed in multi-threading and just about beats 3600 and 3600x at single threaded workloads.

 

Now of course i7 is manufactured on 14nm++ process and ryzen is made on 7nm process. but intel 14nm++ parts similer to AMD 10 nm parts in density of transistors. so, shouldn't be that much difference in architectural performance .    

 

I'm thinking of buying the upcoming i5 10600k which is rumored to have similar specs as i7 8086k but with slightly lower clock speeds. 6 core 12 threads at 3.7 GHz base, 4.7GHz boost and 4.9GHZ single core boost.

 

Now on paper it looks like i5 10600k should destroy 3600x even multi-threading with is 12 threads boosting to 4.9 GHz. but if 10600k preforms similar to Core i7 8086k then there is no point of buying this, and just go AMD.   

 

   

[Streetguru]

16 minutes ago, linustechtipscom said:

all 3 CPUs have 6 core 12 threads.

What benchmarks are you looking at?

[Deli]

Ryzen 2 has 15% better IPC than Intel's 14nm+++++. Clock speed isn't the only thing that counts.

[linustechtipscom]

1 minute ago, Deli said:

Ryzen 2 has 15% better IPC than Intel's 14nm+++++. Clock speed isn't the only thing that counts.

so Intel is dead until 10nm comes out in 2020, but intel 10nm for desktop is cancelled so Intel is dead until 7nm comes out in 2022.   

[Deli]

11 minutes ago, linustechtipscom said:

so Intel is dead until 10nm comes out in 2020, but intel 10nm for desktop is cancelled so Intel is dead until 7nm comes out in 2022.   

For gaming, Intel still has a slight edge.

 

We will see what Intel can do with its 10nm for desktop next year.

[Princess Luna]

You buy the appropriated hardware for your needs, many software will perform better on the i7... a few synthetic benchmarks aren't the whole deal there is to it.

 

The 8700K and variants is a great processor, if you own one you have nothing to really worry about... it's just not what people should be buying today though specially at retail price and what not.

 

For a gaming only system with high refresh rate in mind the 9700KF could be used, a decent build with it will cost no more than a build with a 3700X but it will game better always and lose at stuff like maya and CGI etc... where if you're just gaming won't matter and you still gain fps specially if you're going all out on a 2080 Super or something.

 

If not the case the 3600 will always be the best pick, it games almost the same as every other ryzen chip within very small margins between it and the 3900X and it is "inexpensive" high power solution.

 

If you ever "need" a 8 cores processor it will be here in a couple years yet and by then you'll just want the whatever newest great deal is.