X370 and Ryzen 3000

[Jon Jon]

Everyone has pushed that Socket AM4 is great for the upgrade path, where you can upgrade to a future CPU with no issue.

 

However, it seems nobody is really talking about high end X370 motherboard support for faster RAM and the new Ryzen 5/7/9 CPUs.

 

I am curious about:

 

• Faster Memory Support (DDR4-3600~)
• Support for Ryzen 7 and 9

 

Personally, if I were to upgrade, I would like to think that I would be able to upgrade to a DDR4-3600 kit and a Ryzen 7 or Ryzen 9 third gen and be good to go.

 

My motherboard supports both, but I am curious if this has been tested on these first generation motherboards and what is lost versus the newer chipsets beyond not supporting the latest generation of precision boost.

 

I am sure there are plenty of other users like me who went deep into Ryzen back in 2017. I think this is a great conversation to have, since it seems all i can find online is "Yes, you could run a Ryzen 9 3900x without blowing your house up" type overview.

[Fasauceome]

7 minutes ago, Jon Jon said:

Support for Ryzen 7 and 9

Idk why there wouldn't be, as Ryzen 7 operates within the same power envelope as before, and since many X370 boards bare a resemblance to B450 boards which are fine with Ryzen 9, there would be no problem. Especially with the "high end" you mentioned, their power delivery should be more than plenty for a high end chip.

 

As for the memory speeds, X370 was not made with really high speeds in mind, if I were upgrading I'd personally get a 3200 kit of some B die or E die, maybe some Trident Z Neo or Vengeance LPX and overclock what I could get away with, as those kits are more likely to squeeze out some extra MHz.

[porina]

Here's my earlier run with a 3700X on X370 mobo with older 1.0.0.2 bios, ram 3600C18.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4195019_mackerel_cinebench___r15_ryzen_7_3700x_2238_cb

 

Ram compatibility has improved with bios versions. I haven't noticed any problems running this combo. This was manually OC, but I normally run it stock.

 

Edit: ram is Kingston HyperX Predator RGB 2x8GB 4000, which as XMP profiles at 3600 and 4000. I was just running the 3600 profile. Can't remember if 4000 worked or not on this particular system, but even if it worked it always proved slower than the 3600 profile in benchmarks.

[LauriHimself]

8 minutes ago, Jon Jon said:

I am curious if this has been tested

 

 

 

i guess somewhere in there should be the info you are looking for

[Skiiwee29]

On a whim because of your post, I just went into my x370 crosshair vi hero and changed my ram from 3200mhz 14-14-14-34 to 3600mhx 16-16-16-48 and have aida running now and so far so good. 

[Skiiwee29]

Here is a screenshot of Aida, CPUz, and Ryzen Master as I test stability. 

 

[Jon Jon]

@Skiiwee29 Thanks for this! What CPU are you running?

 

@LauriHimself Thanks! I will check these out when i get the chance just in case I missed something. The ones I've seen have all focused on the chip working, nothing about RAM compatibility changes or anything.

[TheGlenlivet]

Modern CPUs have the memory controllers built in, so upgrading the CPU upgrades the controller.

Power requirements are about what the prior gens were.

As long as you can get the features and IO you need from the board, a B350 would work.

[Morgan MLGman]

1 hour ago, porina said:

Here's my earlier run with a 3700X on X370 mobo with older 1.0.0.2 bios, ram 3600C18.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4195019_mackerel_cinebench___r15_ryzen_7_3700x_2238_cb

 

Ram compatibility has improved with bios versions. I haven't noticed any problems running this combo. This was manually OC, but I normally run it stock.

 

Edit: ram is Kingston HyperX Predator RGB 2x8GB 4000, which as XMP profiles at 3600 and 4000. I was just running the 3600 profile. Can't remember if 4000 worked or not on this particular system, but even if it worked it always proved slower than the 3600 profile in benchmarks.

I can also confirm that there aren't any issues when running Ryzen 3000 with X370. I have such combo (3700X + Crosshair VI Extreme) and at the moment I'm on the AGESA 1.0.0.3 ABBA, the CPU boosts a bit higher on average with this AGESA revision, but it's not a noticeable difference really Memory isn't pushed far yet in my case, but I'm also yet to upgrade the memory kit to something faster.

[Skiiwee29]

18 minutes ago, Jon Jon said:

@Skiiwee29 Thanks for this! What CPU are you running?

 

@LauriHimself Thanks! I will check these out when i get the chance just in case I missed something. The ones I've seen have all focused on the chip working, nothing about RAM compatibility changes or anything.

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