overclok Help with my very first Overclock

[Abu_59]

Hello everyone.

I recently posted to see about which component I can upgrade in my setup but there doesn't seem to be much gain by upgrading only 1 component. So I have decided to go the route of overclocking until I can save to upgrade more than 1 component.

Please help me with overclocking as I have never attempted this before. What can or should I OC, what is risky to OC, etc...

 

Purpose for my build it mostly competitive and casual gaming (I'd say 70% competitive) and sometime casual content creating such as 3d modelling and rendering.

 

Thanks in advance! ^^

 

Current specs:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor, 3400 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)

GPU: GeForce GTX 1070 Ti, 8GB GDDR5
RAM: RIPJAW 32GB (2x DDR4 8GB, 3200; 2x DDR4 8GB 3000)

Motherboard: Tomahawk B350

Monitor: Primary AOC 1080p 144Hz, Secondary Dell 1080p 60Hz

[Sorenson]

from what I know there isn't much overclocking room with first gen ryzen. First, I would go into your bios and double check that your ram is running at the rated speed. Then I would download MSI afterburner and bump up your GPU's power limit, increase the clock speed by 200-400mhz, and increase the memory speed by 400-800mhz. You then need to stress test it to make sure it is stable. If it isn't stable dial bakc the core clock and the memory speed until it is.
 

Also, a 1070 ti should be plenty for 1080p 144hz. If you're finding it lacking, look into swapping your 1700x with like a 3600. 

[SenKa]

I wouldn't OC your CPU much at all, the Tomahawk B350 is quite poor board for VRM thermals even running at spec. As Sorenson said, is your RAM running at 3000MHz?

[Abu_59]

@JoostinOnline 

Thoughts on OC?

[Abu_59]

2 hours ago, SenKa said:

I wouldn't OC your CPU much at all, the Tomahawk B350 is quite poor board for VRM thermals even running at spec. As Sorenson said, is your RAM running at 3000MHz?

Wouldn't I need to OC CPU to get more frames in Esports titles? 

[Abu_59]

2 hours ago, SenKa said:

I wouldn't OC your CPU much at all, the Tomahawk B350 is quite poor board for VRM thermals even running at spec. As Sorenson said, is your RAM running at 3000MHz?

@Sorenson

so I have two kits of ram, one 3000 and other 3200. So I am assuming I'll have to throttle both at 3000? 

[Sorenson]

44 minutes ago, Abu_59 said:

@Sorenson

so I have two kits of ram, one 3000 and other 3200. So I am assuming I'll have to throttle both at 3000? 

So DDR stands for Double Data Rate, meaning you only get the rated speeds when you have two of them in the proper slots on the motherboard. You need to go into your bios and either try XMP (which may work) or look at a ryzen memory timing tool online to find out what speed and timing to use for your memory. If you don’t want to do this, just try setting them to the slower speed at the timings the lesser memory dimm is rated at. 
 

 

[Abu_59]

1 hour ago, Sorenson said:

So DDR stands for Double Data Rate, meaning you only get the rated speeds when you have two of them in the proper slots on the motherboard. You need to go into your bios and either try XMP (which may work) or look at a ryzen memory timing tool online to find out what speed and timing to use for your memory. If you don’t want to do this, just try setting them to the slower speed at the timings the lesser memory dimm is rated at. 
 

 

Would you say it is better to use just one 16GB 3200 kit rather than both 3200 & 3000 kit? 

[Sorenson]

28 minutes ago, Abu_59 said:

Would you say it is better to use just one 16GB 3200 kit rather than both 3200 & 3000 kit? 

I think the difference would be marginal, unless you are unable to get all of the ram to run at 3000mhz when they are all installed. 

[Abu_59]

7 minutes ago, Sorenson said:

I think the difference would be marginal, unless you are unable to get all of the ram to run at 3000mhz when they are all installed. 

So I am able boot with both kits installed at 2933mhz (a-xmp on) with 15-15-15-15-36. 

Any higher speed or lower latency is not letting it boot. 

I was able to go much lower latency at lower speed: 2133mhz 12-12-12-12-36. 

 

Both drawing 1.344v at auto

Stock CPU speed at 3.4Ghz

 

It appears to be running stable but I haven't done any stress testing. 

[Sorenson]

20 minutes ago, Abu_59 said:

So I am able boot with both kits installed at 2933mhz (a-xmp on) with 15-15-15-15-36. 

Any higher speed or lower latency is not letting it boot. 

I was able to go much lower latency at lower speed: 2133mhz 12-12-12-12-36. 

 

Both drawing 1.344v at auto

Stock CPU speed at 3.4Ghz

 

It appears to be running stable but I haven't done any stress testing. 

2933 at cas latency of 15 is great. Are your games running any faster?

[Abu_59]

22 minutes ago, Sorenson said:

2933 at cas latency of 15 is great. Are your games running any faster?

Definitely running faster but it keeps crashing after a certain amount of time lol

Just the game, not pc

[Sorenson]

8 hours ago, Abu_59 said:

Definitely running faster but it keeps crashing after a certain amount of time lol

Just the game, not pc

Try loosening the timings. You could also try using just one of the kits of ram that you have.

[Abu_59]

7 hours ago, Sorenson said:

Try loosening the timings. You could also try using just one of the kits of ram that you have.

No timing configuration was gibing me a stable ram at 2933. However I was able to get stable at 2866Mhz, 14-15-15-15-36, 1.34V. I was going to try lowering the voltage but I am not sure.

Boosted the power limit of GPU to 120% with MSI afterburner. 

Also, I was wondering if I should OC the CPU but I am already getting the max fps my 144hz 1080p monitor can display. I dont think OC-ing the CPU will be worth the little gain I might have. Thoughts?  

[Sorenson]

4 hours ago, Abu_59 said:

No timing configuration was gibing me a stable ram at 2933. However I was able to get stable at 2866Mhz, 14-15-15-15-36, 1.34V. I was going to try lowering the voltage but I am not sure.

Boosted the power limit of GPU to 120% with MSI afterburner. 

Also, I was wondering if I should OC the CPU but I am already getting the max fps my 144hz 1080p monitor can display. I dont think OC-ing the CPU will be worth the little gain I might have. Thoughts?  

I’ve never oc’d on ryzen 1st gen, so all I really know is you want faster ram. I would guess you could get 1-200 more MHz but if you’re getting 144fps already I don’t think it’s worth the hassle. 

[BigRom]

On 10/13/2019 at 10:59 AM, Abu_59 said:

Wouldn't I need to OC CPU to get more frames in Esports titles? 

Ryzen 1700 is hardly going to struggle running Esports titles, even my old 2200G could run CSGO/Dota/LoL/Overwatch etc just fine

 

Besides, unless you have an uber high refresh rate monitor like 240Hz I don't know how much more frames you need considering even the cheapo 2200G can easily hit over 144fps in CSGO with a GTX1060. The Ryzen 1700 should be getting damn near 200fps with the same GPU I had

[Abu_59]

19 hours ago, Sorenson said:

I’ve never oc’d on ryzen 1st gen, so all I really know is you want faster ram. I would guess you could get 1-200 more MHz but if you’re getting 144fps already I don’t think it’s worth the hassle. 

I was kinda thinking the same. 

Is that a decent speed/timing for what I was able to OC?