CPU temp keeps fluctuating?

[moxy3d]

So my Ryzen 2700x has been acting strangely. Not sure what's going on but the temps are going from 36c to 45c in idle. Also the CPU fan cooler is making noise as if it's under load.

[emosun]

whats your computer doing program wise at idle

[Vishera]

What is the CPU usage on idle?

[moxy3d]

37 minutes ago, emosun said:

whats your computer doing program wise at idle

Nothing really. I'm not running anything but MSI Afterburner.

[moxy3d]

28 minutes ago, Vishera said:

What is the CPU usage on idle?

Around 2-5%

[WoodenMarker]

That all seems normal. What are load temps?

Are you trying to lower noise?

[moxy3d]

1 hour ago, WoodenMarker said:

That all seems normal. What are load temps?

Are you trying to lower noise?

Load temps are around 60-70c

And yes I am trying to quiet down this fan noise. Btw I have an air cooler.

[WoodenMarker]

14 minutes ago, moxy3d said:

Load temps are around 60-70c

And yes I am trying to quiet down this fan noise. Btw I have an air cooler.

You're fine up to 85c. Try lowering fan speeds to see if that makes it quiet enough. 

[Vishera]

8 hours ago, moxy3d said:

Around 2-5%

Considering it's an 8 core CPU that's not normal,

Even my old FX-8320E and i5 3330 are at 0% on idle,

My Ryzen 5 2600 is at 0% at idle too...

 

You 100% have bloatware that use your CPU like that,

Even when browsing the web my 6 core 2600 is at 0%-1% usage.

[LogicalDrm]

8 hours ago, Vishera said:

Considering it's an 8 core CPU that's not normal,

Even my old FX-8320E and i5 3330 are at 0% on idle,

My Ryzen 5 2600 is at 0% at idle too...

 

You 100% have bloatware that use your CPU like that,

Even when browsing the web my 6 core 2600 is at 0%-1% usage.

I'm gonna call partial BS on this. Idle is very subjective term overall. Usually it means that load is under 5C. Having CPU at 0% is impossible, and usually is reported at 1% anyway. Only place where this is issue, is if usage spikes constantly. Then there's some background process working. But calling it malware out of the blue is reaching.

 

The main thing here is that fan curve will need adjustment. The reason temps go to 45C at low load is that fan isn't spinning high enough. If you are fine with temps, just adjust speed to prevent needles ramping.

[moxy3d]

4 hours ago, LogicalDrm said:

I'm gonna call partial BS on this. Idle is very subjective term overall. Usually it means that load is under 5C. Having CPU at 0% is impossible, and usually is reported at 1% anyway. Only place where this is issue, is if usage spikes constantly. Then there's some background process working. But calling it malware out of the blue is reaching.

 

The main thing here is that fan curve will need adjustment. The reason temps go to 45C at low load is that fan isn't spinning high enough. If you are fine with temps, just adjust speed to prevent needles ramping.

Incorrect. I have it at idle right now and it is at 50c-56c. The fan is so loud. I am wondering if I need to apply thermal paste to the cpu AND the cooler block.

[LogicalDrm]

34 minutes ago, moxy3d said:

Incorrect. I have it at idle right now and it is at 50c-56c. The fan is so loud. I am wondering if I need to apply thermal paste to the cpu AND the cooler block.

Screenshot time then. Preferably something that shows tasks and fan speed.

 

If you re-apply paste, you do it only to one spot on the CPU. Cooler spreads it while you tighten it.

[Vishera]

18 hours ago, LogicalDrm said:

Having CPU at 0% is impossible, and usually is reported at 1% anyway.

0% is reported when usage is below 1%...

For example 0.3% will be reported as 0%.

18 hours ago, LogicalDrm said:

Only place where this is issue, is if usage spikes constantly. Then there's some background process working. But calling it malware out of the blue is reaching.

Malware - Malicious software,software with malicious intent,made for malicious purpose.

 

For example: A software that scan and inject code into executeables to make it use 100% of the CPU and cripple the system.

 

Bloatware - software that unnecessarily waste resources with no malicious intent or software that is unnecessary for the functionality of the system but is open in the background permanently.

 

For example: A temperature monitoring software that use 1GB of RAM,

Another Example: having Skype,NZXT CAM,Discord,and Steam open together in the background permanently.

[LogicalDrm]

1 minute ago, Vishera said:

Bloatware - software that unnecessarily waste resources with no malicious intent or software that is unnecessary for the functionality of the system but is open in the background permanently.

 

For example: A temperature monitoring software that use 1GB of RAM,

Another Example: having Skype,NZXT CAM,Discord,and Steam open together in the background permanently.

 

Not all background processes are bloatware. And I would say most aren't. There's mainly active AV scanning, Windows search index, any updates going on etc. And you are mis-defining bloatware anyway. Bloat is stuff that you don't need, but is either pre-installed or gets installed along with normal software. Discord, Steam etc. are normal as you have yourself wanted them to be there.

[Vishera]

29 minutes ago, LogicalDrm said:

Bloat is stuff that you don't need, but is either pre-installed or gets installed along with normal software. Discord, Steam etc. are normal as you have yourself wanted them to be there.

I always close software i don't use,like the software you mentioned,only MSI Afterburner is open permanently on my PC.

31 minutes ago, LogicalDrm said:

Not all background processes are bloatware. And I would say most aren't. There's mainly active AV scanning, Windows search index, any updates going on etc. And you are mis-defining bloatware anyway.

Windows search index use less than 1% on idle,and peak usage when searching only lasts a few seconds.

Automatic updates are bloatware,i prefer manual updates,i update once a week whenever i want so it doesn't use resources i need when i use the computer,

and if something goes wrong i have my USB stick with recovery tools,you don't want this happening when you use the system...

 

Active AV scanning can be configured to scan at night when you are asleep.

 

[LogicalDrm]

1 minute ago, Vishera said:

I always close software i don't use,like the software you mentioned,only MSI Afterburner is open permanently on my PC.

Newsflash: You aren't everyone. You can't define terms just as they suit you. Otherwise things will get hard to understand.

 

Now we wait until OP can give screenshot to further troubleshoot this issue.

[GoldenLag]

15 hours ago, moxy3d said:

Incorrect. I have it at idle right now and it is at 50c-56c. The fan is so loud. I am wondering if I need to apply thermal paste to the cpu AND the cooler block

could be a bad fan, also how is the case airflow and how is the fancurve configured in Bios?

 

7 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Automatic updates are bloatware,i prefer manual updates,i update once a week whenever i want so it doesn't use resources i need when i use the computer,

windows is pretty decent ATM not using the CPU when doing other tasks, prepping updates while idle isnt really a bloatware. preffering a different style of update is fine tho. 

9 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Active AV scanning can be configured to scan at night when you are asleep.

or scan while idle....... which is what windows does. 

15 hours ago, moxy3d said:

I am wondering if I need to apply thermal paste to the cpu AND the cooler block.

a reasonable dot of thermal paste on the CPU is fine, and the preinstalled thermal paste is fairly foolproof, so you should be good. especially when looking at the load temps. 

 

you could just be suffering from bad case airflow

[moxy3d]

On 10/13/2019 at 7:38 AM, GoldenLag said:

could be a bad fan, also how is the case airflow and how is the fancurve configured in Bios?

 

windows is pretty decent ATM not using the CPU when doing other tasks, prepping updates while idle isnt really a bloatware. preffering a different style of update is fine tho. 

or scan while idle....... which is what windows does. 

a reasonable dot of thermal paste on the CPU is fine, and the preinstalled thermal paste is fairly foolproof, so you should be good. especially when looking at the load temps. 

 

you could just be suffering from bad case airflow

Right..To end this male posturing, the issue has been resolved. It was a fan settings problem. I simply had the fan on Turbo which in turn caused the fans to blow harder. 

The temps were due to not enough thermal paste. 

Thanks. I suppose I should also be grateful for causing such a testosterone battle as well.