Monitor suggestion

[Dipypang]

Hi guys,

I'm searching for a monitor with the following specs i wanted with budget max $600:

- 27" 2560x1440 QHD Display

- 144hz Refresh Rate

- 1-5ms Response Time

- G-SYNC Compatible

- IPS Panel

- HDR Vesa certified at least 400

 

I want it for gaming and creativity (Adobe Ps, Ae, Pr, etc)

 

Here is one of my candidate with all the specs i want included (Gigabyte Arous AD27QD):

https://www.newegg.com/amp/black-gigabyte-aorus-series-aorus-ad27qd-sa-27/p/N82E16824012006&ved=2ahUKEwjY2LGPx5PlAhV17XMBHeDTDa4QFjAFegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw1r5na2YlRSP1IT8G_Uhn7G&ampcf=1

[191x7]

That Gigabyte is the monitor I was going to recommend.

 

Just don't expect HDR from it. HDR400 monitors aren't really HDR.

[Wh0_Am_1]

28 minutes ago, Dipypang said:

Hi guys,

I'm searching for a monitor with the following specs i wanted with budget max $600:

- 27" 2560x1440 QHD Display

- 144hz Refresh Rate

- 1-5ms Response Time

- G-SYNC Compatible

- IPS Panel

- HDR Vesa certified at least 400

 

I want it for gaming and creativity (Adobe Ps, Ae, Pr, etc)

 

Here is one of my candidate with all the specs i want included (Gigabyte Arous AD27QD):

https://www.newegg.com/amp/black-gigabyte-aorus-series-aorus-ad27qd-sa-27/p/N82E16824012006&ved=2ahUKEwjY2LGPx5PlAhV17XMBHeDTDa4QFjAFegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw1r5na2YlRSP1IT8G_Uhn7G&ampcf=1

If you are aiming to use this monitor for content creation you should also consider colour accuracy as a primary factor.

[Dipypang]

1 hour ago, 191x7 said:

Just don't expect HDR from it. HDR400 monitors aren't really HDR.

Yes i know this

[Dipypang]

1 hour ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

If you are aiming to use this monitor for content creation you should also consider colour accuracy as a primary factor.

What do you think about that monitor's color accuracy. I see it covers 100% sRGB although for Adobe only 88%. What do you think?

[191x7]

15 minutes ago, Dipypang said:

What do you think about that monitor's color accuracy. I see it covers 100% sRGB although for Adobe only 88%. What do you think?

I believe it can be calibrated quite good, but one needs a tool for that, something like the X-Rite Colormunki Smile, Colormunki Display or Datacolor Spyder 5 express or Pro.

I ordered a Colormunki Display last week, should arrive today or next week, and I plan on purchasing that Gigabyte monitor next week.

[Dipypang]

7 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

I believe it can be calibrated quite good, but one needs a tool for that, something like the X-Rite Colormunki Smile, Colormunki Display or Datacolor Spyder 5 express or Pro.

I ordered a Colormunki Display last week, should arrive today or next week, and I plan on purchasing that Gigabyte monitor next week.

Wow nice

[balexandre]

@Dipypang you have the same specs on the LG 27GL850

the good thing is that LG uses their nano-IPS technology
 

from https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27GL850-gaming-monitor

• Nano IPS 1ms response time
• 27” QHD (2560 x 1440) Nano IPS Display
• NVIDIA® G-SYNC® Compatible
• Adaptive-Sync (FreeSync™)
• 144Hz refresh rate
• HDR 10 (this means an app or game can see it's a HDR screen - it's only metadata - thanks @Glenwing)

here's a very detailed comparison

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/gigabyte-ad27qd-vs-lg-27gl850/757/912

 

[Wh0_Am_1]

9 hours ago, Dipypang said:

What do you think about that monitor's color accuracy. I see it covers 100% sRGB although for Adobe only 88%. What do you think?

Ok, that's pretty good, no issues there. 

[Dipypang]

6 hours ago, balexandre said:

@Dipypang you have the same specs on the LG 27GL850

the good thing is that LG uses their nano-IPS technology
 

from https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27GL850-gaming-monitor

• Nano IPS 1ms response time
• 27” QHD (2560 x 1440) Nano IPS Display
• NVIDIA® G-SYNC® Compatible
• Adaptive-Sync (FreeSync™)
• 144Hz refresh rate
• HDR 10  <-- LOL!

here's a very detailed comparison

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/gigabyte-ad27qd-vs-lg-27gl850/757/912

 

Overall still Aorus is better lol. 

For the HDR, Aorus is in the VESA HDR product list while LG isn’t. The LG’s HDR is actually below vesa’s minimum to be certified as hdr monitor.

[balexandre]

28 minutes ago, Dipypang said:

Overall still Aorus is better lol. 

For the HDR, Aorus is in the VESA HDR product list while LG isn’t. The LG’s HDR is actually below vesa’s minimum to be certified as hdr monitor.

if you are looking into that page stats, you can see that a lot of numbers are low because the screen was not correctly calibrated... 
but hey ... as long as you're happy!

[191x7]

Here's another recommendation

 

[Skeith_]

On 10/11/2019 at 10:15 PM, balexandre said:

if you are looking into that page stats, you can see that a lot of numbers are low because the screen was not correctly calibrated... 
but hey ... as long as you're happy!

Both of them looks great, but I imagine that if you have a calibration tool the LG will be better overall?

[balexandre]

13 minutes ago, Skeith_ said:

Both of them looks great, but I imagine that if you have a calibration tool the LG will be better overall?

I believe that if the LG would be correctly calibrated, it would have better specs... some results are to way off to be "correctly calibrated", I think the tests are simply "factory screens"...

but remember, it's all about what are you doing with it, video/photo editing where you need colors to be precise vs video and gaming where you really don't need that precision to be perfect!

[Skeith_]

2 minutes ago, balexandre said:

I believe that if the LG would be correctly calibrated, it would have better specs... some results are to way off to be "correctly calibrated", I think the tests are simply "factory screens"...

but remember, it's all about what are you doing with it, video/photo editing where you need colors to be precise vs video and gaming where you really don't need that precision to be perfect!

So if I want it mainly for gaming they're both good?

[balexandre]

16 minutes ago, Skeith_ said:

So if I want it mainly for gaming they're both good?

both amazing for the price ... then again, I would think going ultrawide

[Skeith_]

3 minutes ago, balexandre said:

both amazing for the price ... then again, I would think going ultrawide

Awesome, thanks! I thought about ultra wide, but I doubt that I have room here. for me 27" is the largest one I thought of buying. Will there be an advantage of getting an Ultrawide one?

[balexandre]

3 minutes ago, Skeith_ said:

Will there be an advantage of getting an Ultrawide one?

it's only 8 cm  higher...
27'': 614 x 365 mm
35'':  836 x 445 mm

Yes! the immersion in gaming plus more and more games have now Wide Screen support... is totally worth it (of course, it's all of a personal taste, and I do love it!)... try first, go to a store and check the ultra wide ones...

the LG price vs the Benq EX3501R is almost the same... (that's why I'm so keen to swap my 2 screen for it)

you also have more good ultra wide screens for the same price range

- BenQ EX3501R (3440x1440, VA, 100Hz, 4 ms, HDMI/DP/USB-C)
- Asus XG35VQ (3440x1440 VA, 100Hz, FreeSync, 4 ms, 2500:1, DP/2xHDMI)
- MSI MAG341CQ (3440x1440 VA, 100hz, 4ms, 3000:1, DVI/HDMI/DP)

But remember, no matter what choice you make, it's all about YOU! it's your feeling and happiness that comes first, so, 25'', 27'' or ultra wide, it's all about your money vs what you will fell when using such monitors  

I know I will only be happy with a ultra wide  

[Skeith_]

Glad to hear that. Thanks! These are VA panels though?

[191x7]

Check those:

A) AOC CQ32G1 https://eu.aoc.com/en/gaming-monitors/cq32g1 (3000 Croatian Kuna)
B) LG 32GK650F https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-32GK650F-B-gaming-monitor (3500 Croatian Kuna)
C) Acer XZ321QU https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/UM.JX1AA.003 (3500 Kn)
D) AOC AG322QC4 https://eu.aoc.com/en/gaming-monitors/ag322qc4/specs (3700 Kn)
3000 Croatian kuna is about 450 US Dollars or 400 Euros. 3700 Kn is $550 or 500€

[balexandre]

4 hours ago, Skeith_ said:

These are VA panels though?

You will get better features with VA panels, IPS's have better image across wider angles (then again, we're always looking in front, and the curvature makes you don't get far from the edges)... as today, I would rather have an VA panel, you save the money and you get better refresh rates and contrast levels than IPS panel... for the same amount of money or course... don't wanna get challenged by a X35 screen   

[balexandre]

3 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Check those

those are not exactly ultrawide

[Skeith_]

11 minutes ago, balexandre said:

You will get better features with VA panels, IPS's have better image across wider angles (then again, we're always looking in front, and the curvature makes you don't get far from the edges)... as today, I would rather have an VA panel, you save the money and you get better refresh rates and contrast levels than IPS panel... for the same amount of money or course... don't wanna get challenged by a X35 screen   

I thought that IPS means better colours overall along with the better viewing angle. So what 27" VA panel will be the best in this regard?

[balexandre]

1 minute ago, Skeith_ said:

I thought that IPS means better colours overall along with the better viewing angle. So what 27" VA panel will be the best in this regard?

Yes, IPS panels you get get better color reproduction overall ... but not with good VA Panels, and yes, no doubts, better image in wider angles ... but are you thinking of siting down aside and watch the screen? or havin' the screen do be a "public" display where you want to see it from afar and maybe side ? 

if it's mainly to see in front of the screen, why spend money on a IPS panel where we can get a great VA Panel for much less?

IPS:
+ better color reproduction 
+ better colors across wider view angles
- refresh rates
- response times

VA:
+ better refresh rates
+ better contrast
- not good view angles
- color reproduction lower than IPS

TN:
 don't even look at those ... I have 2... do. not. buy. them.

if you want a screen for gaming without spending much: VA panels will delivery better 2 things: contrast (HDR!) and refresh rates (great for FPS games)... if you want for video/photo editing and color correction ... IPS!


Sorry, I'm not into 27'' panels ... I only did my homework with 34'' and larger.

[SolarNova]

@Dipypang@balexandre

 

FYI , the LG GL850 has below expected HDR results due to the results of their color tests, which due to their testing method is more accurate and thus harsher than most other reviewers.

They explain it in response to a comment.

 

Comment:

"You’ve quite obviously measured the DCI-P3 coverage with the monitor in sRGB mode. Compare the black triangles between the DCI-P3 and Rec. 2020 charts. This should also have been obvious with such a big difference between a 78% measured coverage and a 98% advertised coverage (as confirmed by other reviews).

Reply:

"No, we didn’t measure it in sRGB mode. The difference in our measurements and the advertised specs is due to the way we measure color gamut. When measuring DCI-P3, we limit the primaries to the DCI-P3 color space. The vast majority of other reviewers don’t do this. DCI-P3 can only be sent as Rec. 2020, and most other sites simply send Rec. 2020 and measure how much of the DCI-P3 color space it covers. This isn’t very accurate though, as the colors are often over-saturated. By limiting the primaries to DCI-P3, we obtain an (arguably) more accurate measurement of DCI-P3 coverage. Because of this difference though, almost every monitor we’ve tested shows a smaller DCI-P3 coverage than other reviewers or the manufacturer’s posted specs."

 

So when comparing reviews within rtings, its a fair comparison.

When comparing against other reviewers, ull need to check their testing method.

For example rtings also use a different pixel response time measurement method vs say tftcentral.

0-100% data points vs 10-90% data points respectively.