Reasonable price for passively cooled ITX system

[Chef-009]

Hello,

 

I'm developing a Tesla/Apple-grade quality product. It's a completely silent, passively cooled mini-ITX "gaming" PC with no moving parts.

Quick specs: (for now)

AMD 3600 (or higher)

RTX 2060 Super

16GB RAM (or higher)

pci.e SSD and room for an extra 2.5" SSD

The case is 24cm wide, 25cm deep, and 10cm tall with integrated power supply. So no external adapter. Also no coil whining.

 

Now my question is this: What would be a reasonable price to sell a product like this for?

 

Thanks in advance.

[Zando_]

Would depend on how much it costs you to make it. IDK the standard margin on stuff like this, but I'd assume it's 30-50% depending on volume of sales (so 30-50% more than what it costs you to build it)? Would be hard to price it well unless you're getting stuff at the wholesale prices OEMs do though, if you're paying normal consumer pricing then you're usually better off flipping used hardware or doing custom rigs to people's specs who don't have time or don't want to build it themselves (then AFAIK you'd charge labor and maybe a small markup on top of what the parts cost). 

[badreg]

Have you done any actual R&D on this, or is this just some fantasy? You'd be lucky to fit that amount of hardware into that space, let alone cool it. Most people in the SFF world would consider sub-10L to be an achievement with high-end hardware. Meanwhile, you're trying to passively cool a 6L package.

 

If something like this were real, then it would worth at least $20k for applications that require the space and silence. But since it's not real and cannot possibly exist, it's worth about $0.

[The Torrent]

31 minutes ago, Arend-009 said:

Hello,

 

I'm developing a Tesla/Apple-grade quality product. It's a completely silent, passively cooled mini-ITX "gaming" PC with no moving parts.

Quick specs: (for now)

AMD 3600 (or higher)

RTX 2060 Super

16GB RAM (or higher)

pci.e SSD and room for an extra 2.5" SSD

The case is 24cm wide, 25cm deep, and 10cm tall with integrated power supply. So no external adapter. Also no coil whining.

 

Now my question is this: What would be a reasonable price to sell a product like this for?

 

Thanks in advance.

no clue how ur gonna cool that without sticking a 2 x 2 x 10 foot heatsink sticking out the side.

 

Depends a silly high amount on what the pc actually looks like too...

 

But its a stupidly small market so most likely you'll just about make back what you spent if your lucky.

[Jurrunio]

depends on whether you're in a rush of selling it too. It's a niche thing, so you'll have to wait for some time before someone enthusiastic about passive cooling enough to get to your post.

[Chef-009]

1 hour ago, badreg said:

Have you done any actual R&D on this, or is this just some fantasy? You'd be lucky to fit that amount of hardware into that space, let alone cool it. Most people in the SFF world would consider sub-10L to be an achievement with high-end hardware. Meanwhile, you're trying to passively cool a 6L package.

 

If something like this were real, then it would worth at least $20k for applications that require the space and silence. But since it's not real and cannot possibly exist, it's worth about $0.

 

2 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

Would depend on how much it costs you to make it. IDK the standard margin on stuff like this, but I'd assume it's 30-50% depending on volume of sales (so 30-50% more than what it costs you to build it)? Would be hard to price it well unless you're getting stuff at the wholesale prices OEMs do though, if you're paying normal consumer pricing then you're usually better off flipping used hardware or doing custom rigs to people's specs who don't have time or don't want to build it themselves (then AFAIK you'd charge labor and maybe a small markup on top of what the parts cost). 

Yes. In fact the R&D is almost done and a working model does exist. I was thinking about 2000 Euro's would be a good competitive price.

 

1 hour ago, The Torrent said:

no clue how ur gonna cool that without sticking a 2 x 2 x 10 foot heatsink sticking out the side.

 

Depends a silly high amount on what the pc actually looks like too...

 

But its a stupidly small market so most likely you'll just about make back what you spent if your lucky.

 

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

depends on whether you're in a rush of selling it too. It's a niche thing, so you'll have to wait for some time before someone enthusiastic about passive cooling enough to get to your post.

I can't show the desgin (yet) but it's definitly made of aluminium, and really small.

I think the company would need to start a kickstarter too see how many people actually want it. Not for financing but to pull people in.

 

 

[Jurrunio]

33 minutes ago, Arend-009 said:

 

Yes. In fact the R&D is almost done and a working model does exist. I was thinking about 2000 Euro's would be a good competitive price.

 

 

I can't show the desgin (yet) but it's definitly made of aluminium, and really small.

I think the company would need to start a kickstarter too see how many people actually want it. Not for financing but to pull people in.

 

 

https://silentpc.com/fanless-pcs

and LTT's coverage on an I think X99 based dual GPU system

 

you're a bit late here

[Chef-009]

45 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

https://silentpc.com/fanless-pcs

and LTT's coverage on an I think X99 based dual GPU system

 

you're a bit late here

Yeah probably, but it does have the best performance per liter