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Build Plan:$700 Gaming Computer "The Teraflop"

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"The Teraflop" means nothing it was just a distinguishable name I came up with when writing this.

 

I am trying to build the Ultimate ~$700 Gaming Computer for myself. The only requirements I have are 1) M.2 boot drive, 2) I want to stay ITX, aka as small as possible, and 3) as much performance as possible. Currently the build consists of:

 

$199.99 AMD Ryzen 5 3200 6-core 3.6Ghz Base Clock, with a 4.2Ghz Boost. (for a while I had the 2600, however, for just $60 you get a significant performance boost, according to PassMark)

 

$94.99 ASRock A320M-ITX AM4 Motherboard. (Cheapest ITX board on Newegg)

 

$229.99 GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 OC 6G Graphics Card. (Dual Fan)

 

$48.99 Intel 760p Series M.2 2280 256GB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 (Boot Drive)

 

$64.63 Mushkin Silverline 16GB ( 1x 16 GB ) DDR4 PC4-19200 2400MHz (Why would I do such a foolish thing as to run in single channel, you ask? Because of the limitation of only having two DDR4 slots on this motherboard, and since I am planning to upgrade to 32gb for server use, I don't see much of a better option)

 

$49.99 EVGA 500W 80 Plus Bronze PSU (Cheapest REPUTABLE power supply available on Newegg)

 

Later, outside of the budget, I will be buying a $79.99 3TB Barracuda 7200RPM HDD For all the games.

 

Let me know what you think and what areas I can improve on, thank you very much.

 

P.S. I am also looking for the both the cheapest 1080p 144hz ips monitor, as well as the cheapest 1440p 144hz ips monitor.

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what's your budget for everything?

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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8 minutes ago, Ender.Kaina said:

 

This is not great, are you planning to buy a PC?

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Ender.Kaina said:

Cheapest REPUTABLE power supply available on Newegg

Define "reputable." That's not a particularly amazing power supply, just because EVGA made it doesn't mean it's a good pick, especially since you said you'd like to have a ton of ram for server use so 24/7 operation is probably something you're after. Speaking of ram

 

23 minutes ago, Ender.Kaina said:

$64.63 Mushkin Silverline 16GB ( 1x 16 GB ) DDR4 PC4-19200 2400MHz 

Single channel, low frequency memory? It will ruin your gaming performance

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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Just call it the Icarus, tries to do things it will never be good at and now end up being good for nothing.

 

12 minutes ago, Ender.Kaina said:

 

$94.99 ASRock A320M-ITX AM4 Motherboard. (Cheapest ITX board on Newegg)

Goodbye CPU overclocking (albeit not important on 3rd gen) and CPU upgrades. Not sure about memory potential

 

15 minutes ago, Ender.Kaina said:

 

$48.99 Intel 760p Series M.2 2280 256GB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 (Boot Drive)

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fgZFf7/crucial-mx500-500gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct500mx500ssd4

 

15 minutes ago, Ender.Kaina said:

upgrade to 32gb for server use,

For what? As a file server, it doesnt have nearly enough SATA ports and there surely arent PCIe slots for SATA expansion cards. For streaming 16GB is enough. For rendering, hahaha by ditching CPU upgrade options in the first place?

 

16 minutes ago, Ender.Kaina said:

$49.99 EVGA 500W 80 Plus Bronze PSU (Cheapest REPUTABLE power supply available on Newegg)

reputable doesn't mean it's any good, PSU is one of those things which even brands that are great in other components can be dodgy.

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, Ender.Kaina said:

P.S. I am also looking for the both the cheapest 1080p 144hz ips monitor, as well as the cheapest 1440p 144hz ips monitor.

For monitors, cheapest usually means "good on paper, catestrophic in real world use". Not sure about the 1440p one but for the 1080p one anyways, the lack of DisplayPort means you have to use DVI, which is slowly being phased out. The 1660 you picked doesn't support it, though this is not universal on 16 series GPUs. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DJCD4D/evga-geforce-gtx-1660-6-gb-sc-ultra-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-1067-kr

Wont be finding any DVI ports on RTX 2070 Super and beyond, which sounds fine for now but you'll regret in the future

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Fasauceome said:

EVGA made it

nah, more like "EVGA rebadged it"

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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You also neglected a case. This is basically the best PC I could make for your price point:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.79 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock X370 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $109.99 @ Amazon
Memory GeIL EVO SPEAR 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $67.99 @ Newegg
Storage Team MS30 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $29.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Zotac GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB GAMING Video Card $219.99 @ Amazon
Case Silverstone SG13 Mini ITX Tower Case $57.99 @ B&H
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $53.88 @ OutletPC
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $749.62
  Mail-in rebates -$15.00
  Total $734.62
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-24 01:12 EDT-0400  

It has climbed over the $700 proposed budget, so drop to an RX 580 if you please. This PSU is the cheapest good PSU you'll get. The memory is really important to gaming performance, you can swap out the dimms later if you really feel like you need that 32GB

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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13 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

what's your budget for everything?

So my total budget for all the parts is $1000. that includes the computer itself and a capable monitor (1080p, 144hz larger than 24") 

 

13 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

You also neglected a case. This is basically the best PC I could make for your price point:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.79 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock X370 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $109.99 @ Amazon
Memory GeIL EVO SPEAR 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $67.99 @ Newegg
Storage Team MS30 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $29.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Zotac GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB GAMING Video Card $219.99 @ Amazon
Case Silverstone SG13 Mini ITX Tower Case $57.99 @ B&H
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $53.88 @ OutletPC
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $749.62
  Mail-in rebates -$15.00
  Total $734.62
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-24 01:12 EDT-0400  

It has climbed over the $700 proposed budget, so drop to an RX 580 if you please. This PSU is the cheapest good PSU you'll get. The memory is really important to gaming performance, you can swap out the dimms later if you really feel like you need that 32GB

I care very much about the case, not enough to drop to an rx 580, but I really want to get the smallest form factor PC that I can, so the one that you showed me is perfect, thanks!

 

13 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

Define "reputable." That's not a particularly amazing power supply, just because EVGA made it doesn't mean it's a good pick, especially since you said you'd like to have a ton of ram for server use so 24/7 operation is probably something you're after. Speaking of ram

 

Single channel, low frequency memory? It will ruin your gaming performance

Alright, so I am not sure how much I need to spend on a Power supply, so some help there would be great. I was going to upgrade to 32gb down the line for a Minecraft server, but I think I will go with 2x8gb sticks instead.

 

 

UPDATED BUILD 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.79 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock X370 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $109.99 @ Amazon
Memory GeIL EVO SPEAR 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $67.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $49.95 @ Adorama
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card $219.99 @ Newegg
Case Silverstone SG13 Mini ITX Tower Case $57.99 @ B&H
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $51.98 @ Newegg
Monitor LG 27GL650F-B 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $249.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1072.66
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1052.66
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-24 15:00 EDT-0400  

 

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15 hours ago, Ender.Kaina said:

I want to stay ITX, aka as small as possible

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.79 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $128.98 @ SuperBiiz
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $69.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $49.95 @ Adorama
Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card $415.98 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fractal Design Node 202 HTPC Case $71.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA GM 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply $95.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1026.67
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-24 15:54 EDT-0400  

 

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.79 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock X370 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($49.95 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Seagate Constellation CS ISE 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB Video Card  ($329.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($70.00) from newegg.
Monitor: Dell S2419HGF 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  ($129.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $1053.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-24 20:36 EDT-0400

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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12 hours ago, trevb0t said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.79 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $128.98 @ SuperBiiz
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $69.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $49.95 @ Adorama
Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card $415.98 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fractal Design Node 202 HTPC Case $71.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA GM 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply $95.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1026.67
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-24 15:54 EDT-0400  

 

Unfortunately, the$1000 budget includes the monitor. Also I would like to stay with Nvidia, unless there is a significant performance boost.

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Alright, I think I have everything corrected, let me know if there is anything else to improve on

Updated/semifinal Build:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.79 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock X370 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $109.99 @ Amazon
Memory GeIL EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $59.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $49.95 @ Adorama
Storage Seagate Constellation CS ISE 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $58.99 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card $269.99 @ Amazon
Case Silverstone SG13 Mini ITX Tower Case $57.99 @ B&H
Power Supply EVGA GD (2019) 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $60.98 @ Newegg
Monitor Dell D2719HGF 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $179.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1052.66
  Mail-in rebates -$10.00
  Total $1042.66
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-25 04:24 EDT-0400  

 

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9 hours ago, Ender.Kaina said:

Unfortunately, the$1000 budget includes the monitor. Also I would like to stay with Nvidia, unless there is a significant performance boost.

The RX 5700 is a SIGNIFICANT boost to the performance of the 1660 Ti... Also the 1660 Ti isn't even providing most of the benefits of nVidia cards that you're thinking of (unless your workplace software benefits from CUDA cores.)

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On 9/25/2019 at 10:39 AM, trevb0t said:

The RX 5700 is a SIGNIFICANT boost to the performance of the 1660 Ti... Also the 1660 Ti isn't even providing most of the benefits of nVidia cards that you're thinking of (unless your workplace software benefits from CUDA cores.)

While that is true, unfortunately RX 5700 is much more expensive as well.

 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1660-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-5700/4037vs4046

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On 9/26/2019 at 2:42 PM, Ender.Kaina said:

While that is true, unfortunately RX 5700 is much more expensive as well.

 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1660-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-5700/4037vs4046

I mean... if you're looking at the cheapest vs the cheapest, then yeah, it's about $80 more. 

 

If we are comparing a decent cooled 1660Ti vs a decent cooled 5700 the gap closes to about a $40 difference. 

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.79 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $79.99 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $69.99 @ Newegg
Storage Silicon Power A55 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $51.99 @ Amazon
Storage Hitachi Ultrastar 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $32.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 8 GB PULSE Video Card $369.99 @ Amazon
Case Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case $44.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $55.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor Dell S2419HGF 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $129.99 @ Best Buy
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1050.61
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1030.61
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-27 20:15 EDT-0400  

 

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