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video looks like trash after exported in adobe

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By Need_Not
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so yeah... ill record some videos with shadowplay they look almost as good as in game with hardly any compression but if i put them in permiere pro and edit them and then render even with "match source file" they look super low bite rate and even when i set the bite rate super high i still have problems...

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6 hours ago, Thanatopsis said:

can you screenshot your export settings and let us know if you put any effects on in PP

I don't usually do effects and for this test video I just stuck it in then rendered it without even touching it

Also in the pic it is match source but it looks bad even with high settings toospacer.png

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So why arent you selecting use maximum render quality, and are you using the max render depth option?  Theses two setting options will help out with the quality while not adding much if any time on depending on your hardware.

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11 hours ago, Thanatopsis said:

So why arent you selecting use maximum render quality, and are you using the max render depth option?  Theses two setting options will help out with the quality while not adding much if any time on depending on your hardware.

I am rending with max render, 50 biterate, 2 pass, max encoding depth let's see how thing turns out!

not so great :(

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2 hours ago, Thanatopsis said:

Honestly you shouldnt need more than 15mbps for 1080p final export.

yeah so why is the final export so bad?

 

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I would have too look at all your setings including source footage bitrate and frame rate.

 

The one thing i noriced but didnt think much of initially is the source settings is saying you have a frame rate of 60.1 fps. Which is a non standard frame rate and may be inducing some of your problems as it may be triggering the frame sampling effect and with it being so close to the output its inducing the problem.

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22 hours ago, Thanatopsis said:

I would have too look at all your setings including source footage bitrate and frame rate.

 

The one thing i noriced but didnt think much of initially is the source settings is saying you have a frame rate of 60.1 fps. Which is a non standard frame rate and may be inducing some of your problems as it may be triggering the frame sampling effect and with it being so close to the output its inducing the problem.

This is my thought too. Is the footage being captured at a Variable Frame Rate or Constant? VFR will throw off editing software in all kinds of ways. 

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Do VBR 2 pass and up the bitrate to 30. If it's going to youtube download the VP9 codec plugin so it doesn't have to re encode it again

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1 hour ago, BuckGup said:

Do VBR 2 pass and up the bitrate to 30. If it's going to youtube download the VP9 codec plugin so it doesn't have to re encode it again

Does that actually work?  I've never tried but I would have expected them to re-encode any upload regardless

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3 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Does that actually work?  I've never tried but I would have expected them to re-encode any upload regardless

It's sorta hit or miss. I have had it work most of the time but sometimes it still re-encodes it. 

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5 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

It's sorta hit or miss. I have had it work most of the time but sometimes it still re-encodes it. 

Hm, about what I would expect then xD Well, I suppose it's still worth trying then.   Render times will likely be much longer due to it being a challenging codec compared to H.264, but it means a better quality at lower filesize, especially if you can avoid the reencode, and also quicker upload times, not to mention (again, if you avoid the reencode), less time waiting for the options to process before they're available to users.

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9 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Hm, about what I would expect then xD Well, I suppose it's still worth trying then.   Render times will likely be much longer due to it being a challenging codec compared to H.264, but it means a better quality at lower filesize, especially if you can avoid the reencode, and also quicker upload times, not to mention (again, if you avoid the reencode), less time waiting for the options to process before they're available to users.

Oh yeah VP9 takes like 3 hours to render it's stupid 

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but i feel like it's yt that is screwing up the video not adobe as much because i was able to fix some of it but yeah i still have a little bit of issues 

 

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2 hours ago, Need_Not said:

but i feel like it's yt that is screwing up the video not adobe as much because i was able to fix some of it but yeah i still have a little bit of issues 

 

Whats it looking like if you watch it on your system. And yes yt can mess up renders but if you hand it to them in the setup they prefere you should be good.

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On 9/21/2019 at 12:08 PM, Need_Not said:

I am rending with max render, 50 biterate, 2 pass, max encoding depth let's see how thing turns out!

not so great :(

Not according to your settings: You're doing VBR w/ a target (average) bitrate of 10 Mbps and a max bitrate (during spikes) of 12 Mbps.

 

You should try making the target bitrate 30 Mbps (or higher), with a max of, say, 50 Mbps.

 

Edit: Unless you mean you re-ran the render at 50 Mbps? If so, post a screenshot comparing to the 10 Mbps render.

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I know you selected to have the export match your source bitrate, but try scrolling down in your export settings and seeing what the bitrate is set at there. Because (and I could be wrong) I think it bases the "match bit rate" off of the first video you drop into the project. So if the bitrate settings are far lower than the bitrate of your originial source files then you can just change it there

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