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ASUS WS PRO x570-Ace and OC Ram issues.

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Hello!

I'm going to keep this short, if someone could provide insight that would be great.

I have a ASUS WS PRO x570-Ace and G.Skill Trident Z CL16 3466mhz ram (Single) 64GB ram, running a Ryzen 9 3900x

 

  • A handfull of times the sytem would run 3466mhz cl16, then just refuse to boot with it and resort to 2100 standard.
  • The XMP settings doesn't work (3466)
  • Manual setting the XMP settings does not work (3466)
  • Dram Calculator full manual settings (including voltage, bus clock, cpu et) does not work. (3466)
  • XMP sttings done manuall works to 3200mhz with cl22.
  • Dram calculator full manual brings me 3200mhz cl 16 with decent timings.
  • Either the startup fails 3 times goes into safe mode, or completely black screen. BSOD once when only voltage was bumped to 1.4v on the XMP settings.
  • Ram-tests shows modules works as intended.

Question:

  • is there a compability issue with my ram sticks and the motherboard=
  • is there a chance that they are not working correctly?
  • They are single and not dual. Is this a problem populating all ram slots?
  • Is there settings I'm for sure is missing in the bios
  • Why won't the System / CPU / MB accept anything above 3200mhz?

If anyone has ANY insight on this. Maybe you have the board yourselve? Please help a fellow out.

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I have that board and am running Crucial Ballistix 4x 8GB @ 3600 CL16 (its rated speed). That's about all the insight I can give since I don't dabble much in memory OC outside of XMP.

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14 minutes ago, Den-Fi said:

I have that board and am running Crucial Ballistix 4x 8GB @ 3600 CL16 (its rated speed). That's about all the insight I can give since I don't dabble much in memory OC outside of XMP.

 

That's actually helping me a lot. I now know it's supposed to just work off the box. Did you activate the O.C.P.P (or whatever the XMP is called) manually in bios and that's it?

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What SOC voltage are you running?

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I would look to see if there is a DRAM boot voltage and make sure that is changing to the correct voltage and not staying at 1.2V.  That was a problem on other ASUS boards.  Also, update your BIOS if you haven't yet.  

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2 minutes ago, nick name said:

I would look to see if there is a DRAM boot voltage and make sure that is changing to the correct voltage and not staying at 1.2V.  That was a problem on other ASUS boards.  Also, update your BIOS if you haven't yet.  

^^^ My EVGA X99 board does the opposite, it runs the RAM at 1.375v instead of the 1.35v it should be for the XMP profile. If you're having RAM or CPU issues, first suspect would be those dastardly auto settings in the BIOS. 

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8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

What SOC voltage are you running?

1.1 (recommended by the calc) Also tried 1.05.

 

1 minute ago, nick name said:

I would look to see if there is a DRAM boot voltage and make sure that is changing to the correct voltage and not staying at 1.2V.  That was a problem on other ASUS boards.  Also, update your BIOS if you haven't yet.  

So this was our initial thought too. The XMP says it changes it to 1.35, and sometimes it doesn't. However manually setting it to 1.35 or even 1.4 / 1.45 but still not booting anything above 3200mhz.

 

Honestly, this should work right out of the pox with the XMP? I'm still struggling to find out if it is the MB or the RAM fault, or just not compatible (Which seems a bit odd for me).

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11 minutes ago, TorTr said:

 

That's actually helping me a lot. I now know it's supposed to just work off the box. Did you activate the O.C.P.P (or whatever the XMP is called) manually in bios and that's it?

Yeah. I enabled DOCP/XMP.

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Just now, Zando Bob said:

^^^ My EVGA X99 board does the opposite, it runs the RAM at 1.375v instead of the 1.35v it should be for the XMP profile. If you're having RAM or CPU issues, first suspect would be those dastardly auto settings in the BIOS. 

Yea, nah manually setting it to 1.35 or anything above 1.2 doesn't help. Still fails to reboot three times and goes into safemode. 2100 or whatever it is.

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Just now, Den-Fi said:

Yeah. I enabled DOCP/XMP.

Thanks for your insight, this is helpful! Atleast I know somebody somehwere got even higher rams to work.

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Are you on the latest BIOS?  This was a problem before, but it doesn't seem to be on latest ASUS BIOS versions.

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43 minutes ago, TorTr said:

1.1 (recommended by the calc) Also tried 1.05.

what if you try 1.15v and 1.2v? Dont go even higher though

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Ok Im using an ACE x570 as well using corsair vengeance pro 4x8gb kit thats a 3200 speed and I actually have it clocked to 3466 right now and have never had it have an issue

 

 

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9 hours ago, nick name said:

Are you on the latest BIOS?  This was a problem before, but it doesn't seem to be on latest ASUS BIOS versions.

Latest bios intalled (0803). Funny thing is immideatly after BIOS update things function normally. Then after a USB flashdrive boot it started being wonky again.But I'm told bios shouldn't be affected by software changes and such unless it's a actual BIOS update?

 

9 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

what if you try 1.15v and 1.2v? Dont go even higher though

I'll test later! I'm starting to think something is wonky with the mobo itself, and not the ram modules.

 

6 hours ago, Ravendarat said:

Ok Im using an ACE x570 as well using corsair vengeance pro 4x8gb kit thats a 3200 speed and I actually have it clocked to 3466 right now and have never had it have an issue

Thanks. Is it single or dual rank memory sticks?

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