ryzen 3 and ram

[Will01]

so I'm looking to get a refresh on my pc soon, but obviously money is a thing. so I'm planning to do the most important things first, then the little things afterwords which are not as important.

 

current specs 

 

Ryzen 5 1400 stock

a320 board

8gb ddr4 2400mhz 

gtx 1060

cx430 psu

 

so basically I'm looking to go down the and route. if I was starting from scratch I'd get a ryzen 5 3600 with a 5700. but I think first thing first for my system, gpu will make the most initial difference. so I can buy a gpu nice simple swap. but then comes the cpu. I need mobo too as a320 haha. so do you guys think i get my new gpu and a b450 board? then I could oc my 1400 till i can get a 3rd gen. and the board will be there ready for the 3rd gen swap? at that point I could upgrade my ram? do I get rid of the 2400 and upgrade fresh to 3600? or do you think I just save the money and get another stick of this 8gb so I have 16? I watched linus' video on this, but the whole latency thing confused the hell out of me and there doesnt seem to be a massive difference when it comes to ram speeds??

 

Any help would be much appreciated, thanks in advance!

[5x5]

Start with a B450  Tomahawk.

[GrockleTD]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

Start with a B450  Tomahawk.

Correct me if I am mistaken, but haven’t we been able to run third gen on a320 boards?

[5x5]

Just now, GrockleTD said:

Correct me if I am mistaken, but haven’t we been able to run third gen on a320 boards?

No. Not only are the VRMs on A320 incapable of safely powering 6-8 core CPUs, the A320 boards have no 3ed gen BIOS support

[GrockleTD]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

No. Not only are the VRMs on A320 incapable of safely powering 6-8 core CPUs, the A320 boards have no 3ed gen BIOS support

? 

 

[Crunken]

Yeah do like @5x5 said, go B450 for 3'rd gen ryzen

Edit: that's what i would do at least, but since you already have a B320 you could save some money

[5x5]

Just now, GrockleTD said:

? 

 

That's not safe at all. The VRMs will cool slowly over time and die.

[GrockleTD]

Just now, 5x5 said:

That's not safe at all. The VRMs will cool slowly over time and die.

Presuming that was supposed to be cook, and I suppose. But it would surely work long enough for him to upgrade his motherboard right?

[5x5]

Just now, GrockleTD said:

Presuming that was supposed to be cook, and I suppose. But it would surely work long enough for him to upgrade his motherboard right?

Are you willing to personally guarantee that it won't overload and feed 12 volts into the CPU? Cause I'm not.

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, GrockleTD said:

Presuming that was supposed to be cook, and I suppose. But it would surely work long enough for him to upgrade his motherboard right?

It's cheaper to buy a new motherboard and then CPU than it is to go CPU > kill the CPU when the mobo fucks itself and dies > get a new mobo anyways > get a new CPU again.
 

Just now, 5x5 said:

Are you willing to personally guarantee that it won't overload and feed 12 volts into the CPU? Cause I'm not.

^^^ 

[GrockleTD]

Just now, 5x5 said:

Are you willing to personally guarantee that it won't overload and feed 12 volts into the CPU? Cause I'm not.

I suppose. I couldn’t remember the specifics of the video to be fair. On an unrelated note, fried chips are scrumptious

[5x5]

Just now, GrockleTD said:

I suppose. I couldn’t remember the specifics of the video to be fair. On an unrelated note, fried chips are scrumptious

Yeah, well. A320 is like H310. Only good for the trash can.

[GrockleTD]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

Yeah, well. A320 is like H310. Only good for the trash can.

Not true! (They can also serve as a frisbee in a pinch)

[Will01]

3 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Yeah, well. A320 is like H310. Only good for the trash can.

 

4 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

I suppose. I couldn’t remember the specifics of the video to be fair. On an unrelated note, fried chips are scrumptious

 

4 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

I suppose. I couldn’t remember the specifics of the video to be fair. On an unrelated note, fried chips are scrumptious

 

5 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

It's cheaper to buy a new motherboard and then CPU than it is to go CPU > kill the CPU when the mobo fucks itself and dies > get a new mobo anyways > get a new CPU again.
 

^^^ 

I wouldn't get 3rd gen and put it my a320. no point. its not officially supported. and it defeats the point. I'm doing it all this way to save money until I can afford the rest. so cpu is like £180 and a motherboard is like £80. so it's cheap compared to the cpu. I can afford a motherboard now along with my gpu. but cpu, no way, and ram, I could work if out. but I need to know if I'm gonna get another stick of my 2400 or scrap that and go fresh 3200/3600. I can afford the extra stick now you see. so I could get a sick gpu? finally get 16gb, and oc my current cpu and have the capability to drop a 3rd gen in whenever I have the cash. do u guys get me? haha sorry its confusing 

[5x5]

Just now, Will01 said:

 

 

 

I wouldn't get 3rd gen and put it my a320. no point. its not officially supported. and it defeats the point. I'm doing it all this way to save money until I can afford the rest. so cpu is like £180 and a motherboard is like £80. so it's cheap compared to the cpu. I can afford a motherboard now along with my gpu. but cpu, no way, and ram, I could work if out. but I need to know if I'm gonna get another stick of my 2400 or scrap that and go fresh 3200/3600. I can afford the extra stick now you see. so I could get a sick gpu? finally get 16gb, and oc my current cpu and have the capability to drop a 3rd gen in whenever I have the cash. do u guys get me? haha sorry its confusing 

Get a good B450 like the Tomahawk. Update it's bios and get a second 8GB stick. 2400 isn't ideal but will work fine with minimal performance loss. Then OC your CPU while minding temps and get a 3600 or 3700X when you can.

[Fasauceome]

19 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

Correct me if I am mistaken, but haven’t we been able to run third gen on a320 boards?

Only some, and A320 sucks with memory speeds, which are of course important to Ryzen. 

 

@Will01 what's your budget? A value oriented B450 motherboard like the Asrock B450 pro4 is a great pick for OCing on a budget.

[Will01]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

Only some, and A320 sucks with memory speeds, which are of course important to Ryzen. 

yeah fuck the a320. honestly not sure why I bought it. I think I literally had like £2 spare when I upgraded last time. so I just did it haha. 

[5x5]

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Only some, and A320 sucks with memory speeds, which are of course important to Ryzen. 

 

@Will01 what's your budget? A value oriented B450 motherboard like the Asrock B450 pro4 is a great pick for OCing on a budget.

Correction, a value board like the Pro4 is good for a budget build with little or no overclocking. If he wants to OC then spending more on a Strix or Tomahawk is advised

[GrockleTD]

3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Only some, and A320 sucks with memory speeds, which are of course important to Ryzen. 

 

@Will01 what's your budget? A value oriented B450 motherboard like the Asrock B450 pro4 is a great pick for OCing on a budget.

Personally I reccomend the B450 steel legend for extreme mediocrity.

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Correction, a value board like the Pro4 is good for a budget build with little or no overclocking. If he wants to OC then spending more on a Strix or Tomahawk is advised

It's in our "maxed out 1600x or 3600x" tier on the mobo tier list, and with a decent 6 phase VRM under a proper heat sink, venturing an overclock would not be unreasonable 

[Will01]

3 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Get a good B450 like the Tomahawk. Update it's bios and get a second 8GB stick. 2400 isn't ideal but will work fine with minimal performance loss. Then OC your CPU while minding temps and get a 3600 or 3700X when you can.

yeah man I'll have a look into pricing on that board but I think just getting an additional stick of ram might be best. its gonna cost a lot to upgrade. so 16gb 2400 will cost me £35 whereas 16gb 3200/3600 will cost me around £90 and I will only be able to recoup around £20 from selling. so 70 total. is it really worth double the cost to upgrade speed, plus hassle of selling?

[Fasauceome]

 

Just now, Will01 said:

yeah man I'll have a look into pricing on that board but I think just getting an additional stick of ram might be best. its gonna cost a lot to upgrade. so 16gb 2400 will cost me £35 whereas 16gb 3200/3600 will cost me around £90 and I will only be able to recoup around £20 from selling. so 70 total. is it really worth double the cost to upgrade speed, plus hassle of selling?

I say get the second 2400 dimm now, overclock if you can on the B450 board of your choice, then get faster memory when you get a new processor.

[Will01]

3 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

Personally I reccomend the B450 steel legend for extreme mediocrity.

 

Just now, Fasauceome said:

It's in our "maxed out 1600x or 3600x" tier on the mobo tier list, and with a decent 6 phase VRM under a proper heat sink, venturing a ln overclock would not be unreasonable 

I'm talking basicccc overclock sorry guys. like literally any semi decent b450 board will do. even with the 3rd gen I'd only do basic overclocking if any. I'm not an oc guy, I cba pushing it to the limit. a little oc without adjusting anything major is all I'm after.

[Will01]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

 

I say get the second 2400 dimm now, overclock if you can on the B450 board of your choice, then get faster memory when you get a new processor.

that isnt cost efficient. I either get an extra stick and that's that, or upgrade to high speed now.

[GrockleTD]

Just now, Will01 said:

 

I'm talking basicccc overclock sorry guys. like literally any semi decent b450 board will do. even with the 3rd gen I'd only do basic overclocking if any. I'm not an oc guy, I cba pushing it to the limit. a little oc without adjusting anything major is all I'm after.

Steel legend OC’s the CPU just fine, but it’s memory overclocking is GARBAGE. It struggled to get 3200 memory to even 2933