How to overclock Ryzen 5 3600

[Pleo]

How can I overclock my CPU? I dont have ALOT of experience but I know the used terms. I'm on a B450 tomahawk with 16gb ddr4 3200mhz memory in dual channel.

 

Currently using PBO and my cores dont go higher than 4124mhz. And not even all the cores go up to 4124, just some. Its also fluctuating alot, so i'm getting some higher latencies (I think)?

 

On not so demanding games i get ALOT of FPS. But in CPU demanding games (BF5) I'm getting stuttering issues. Also, in BF5 my cores dont even go past 4050mhz.

 

So i'm contemplating doing a manual OC.

 

Any advice? 

 

Using a RTX 2070 and a 650w PSU.

 

Thanks

[Stormseeker9]

There a few videos out there on YouTube.

 

this one relates to a 3900x but principle

is the same.

 

 

[Pleo]

What if my cpu doesn't boot if I apply an unstable OC? How do I get it to boot again (Will I be able to get into BIOS?). Also, when you OC, do you get stock core speeds? like 4.1 GHz ALL the time, or only when gaming? Do they downclock / downvolt with AMD cool 'n quiet enabled? When idle?

[Skiiwee29]

5 minutes ago, Pleo said:

What if my cpu doesn't boot if I apply an unstable OC? How do I get it to boot again (Will I be able to get into BIOS?). Also, when you OC, do you get stock core speeds? like 4.1 GHz ALL the time, or only when gaming? Do they downclock / downvolt with AMD cool 'n quiet enabled? When idle?

usually after 3 attempts of boots your CMOS will reset and clear it out. If not, you can always clear CMOS yourself and it will revert any BIOS changes and put everything back at stock settings. 

[Rofty]

Question, why do you want to overclock? There is no real improvement in overclocking vs stock except cpu using more power.. What new ryzen likes is low latency, fast ram.

[caldrin]

Your speeds you are already getting seem about right.. 

You wont get an all core overclock much higher than that. its also normal to see the clock speeds going up and down even when gaming.. BF5 should be using all the cores really so will be harder for the CPU to hit higher speeds on them all the time. 

You can try a manual overclock but I dont think it will help.. problem may be something else like drivers and so on. 

[Pleo]

1 minute ago, Rofty said:

Question, why do you want to overclock? There is no real improvement in overclocking vs stock except cpu using more power.. What new ryzen likes is low latency, fast ram.

Because my stock ryzen has PBO enabled and i'm never hitting 4.2GHz on load, as advertised. My clock speeds are fluctuating alot on load.

[AvogadrosDog]

21 minutes ago, Pleo said:

Because my stock ryzen has PBO enabled and i'm never hitting 4.2GHz on load, as advertised. My clock speeds are fluctuating alot on load.

3600 has a max boost clock of 4.2 GHz but that's only on one core and will only hit that for a split second - almost unnoticeable. You won't get higher than 4.0-4.1 GHz all-core boost on PBO. Your 3600 is performing as expected. The stuttering in BFV should be down to drivers and nothing to worry about. It's been shown by many reviewers that OCing the Ryzen 3000 CPUs actually hampers performance and it also prevents those chips from doing one of the things they're really good at - being efficient on power draw. 

[Pleo]

1 minute ago, AvogadrosDog said:

3600 has a max boost clock of 4.2 GHz but that's only on one core and will only hit that for a split second - almost unnoticeable. You won't get higher than 4.0 GHz all-core boost on PBO. Your 3600 is performing as expected. The stuttering in BFV should be down to drivers and nothing to worry about. It's been shown by many reviewers that OCing the Ryzen 3000 CPUs actually hampers performance and it also prevents those chips from doing one of the things they're really good at - being efficient on power draw. 

Alright, good to hear.  With PBO enabled all of my cores can go up to around 4075Mhz, which is nice then I guess.

[AvogadrosDog]

2 minutes ago, Pleo said:

Alright, good to hear.  With PBO enabled all of my cores can go up to around 4075Mhz, which is nice then I guess.

Yeah you should be fine. The PBO does a good job. On BFV my 3700X hits 4.2GHz all-core (70% usage max but majority of the time at ~50%) and on single core I can only see it hit around 4.3 GHz. I'm not worried. In fact, the only thing that has been of a somewhat concern for me is thermals as I find the Ryzen 3000 chips run a bit hotter than their precursors but my AIO is handling it fine. 

[Pleo]

1 hour ago, AvogadrosDog said:

Yeah you should be fine. The PBO does a good job. On BFV my 3700X hits 4.2GHz all-core (70% usage max but majority of the time at ~50%) and on single core I can only see it hit around 4.3 GHz. I'm not worried. In fact, the only thing that has been of a somewhat concern for me is thermals as I find the Ryzen 3000 chips run a bit hotter than their precursors but my AIO is handling it fine. 

Yeah when playing BF5 temps are 55-60C. However the game is stuttering for me (Known issue for BF5). But my cpu has less usage on BF5 than "less" demanding games. So i was thinking about OC'ing, memory timings etc. Maybe its just the game. I get 150fps ~ on it though.. kinda frustrated me. 

[AvogadrosDog]

36 minutes ago, Pleo said:

Yeah when playing BF5 temps are 55-60C. However the game is stuttering for me (Known issue for BF5). But my cpu has less usage on BF5 than "less" demanding games. So i was thinking about OC'ing, memory timings etc. Maybe its just the game. I get 150fps ~ on it though.. kinda frustrated me. 

Why did it frustrate you? What FPS did you want to hit?

 

RAM overclocking may be worth doing considering how much RAM speed and timings influence Ryzen performance. But with respect to memory overclocking I can't help as I haven't done it myself. I'm actually looking into trying to get my 3200MHz RAM up to 3466MHz or, if possible, higher but I doubt I can go higher than 3466.

[Pleo]

23 minutes ago, AvogadrosDog said:

Why did it frustrate you? What FPS did you want to hit?

 

RAM overclocking may be worth doing considering how much RAM speed and timings influence Ryzen performance. But with respect to memory overclocking I can't help as I haven't done it myself. I'm actually looking into trying to get my 3200MHz RAM up to 3466MHz or, if possible, higher but I doubt I can go higher than 3466.

Because the game stutters. Even with high fps. Like when explosions n shit happen, crowded area's, i maintain high fps but zooming in etc, just stutters. Its not a smooth experience.

[Pleo]

24 minutes ago, AvogadrosDog said:

Why did it frustrate you? What FPS did you want to hit?

 

RAM overclocking may be worth doing considering how much RAM speed and timings influence Ryzen performance. But with respect to memory overclocking I can't help as I haven't done it myself. I'm actually looking into trying to get my 3200MHz RAM up to 3466MHz or, if possible, higher but I doubt I can go higher than 3466.

Yes, exactly. Ryzen likes fast ram, so i also wanna try OC'ing my ram but have no clue how, will do some research

 

[AvogadrosDog]

2 minutes ago, Pleo said:

Because the game stutters. Even with high fps. Like when explosions n shit happen, crowded area's, i maintain high fps but zooming in etc, just stutters. Its not a smooth experience.

Again, that's most likely down to drivers. If it was CPU then you'd see usage hitting near 100% and bottlenecking but that's not what we're seeing and that's not what these chips should be doing anyway.

1 minute ago, Pleo said:

Yes, exactly. Ryzen likes fast ram, so i also wanna try OC'ing my ram but have no clue how, will do some research

 

Try this:

 

[Gohardgrandpa]

For some reason bf 5 is a mess on my 3600 too. I ran it with a 1800x before and it was fine but it stutters like crazy on the 3600. I stopped playing it as it’s not that populated anymore 

[paulmohr]

If you go in the bios of the tomahawk is a "game mode" or something like that. If you choose that it will do an auto all core overclock to around 4.2. I tried manually over clocking mine and about the best I could get was a 4.25 anyway so if want an all core overclock just do it that way, it is much easier.

 

On mine using pbo will let my single core boost speeds go higher. If you do an all core overclock you are kind of locking it in at 4.2. You get an increase with all core work loads but take a slight hit on single core stuff. You just kind of have to do some testing with what you do with your computer and see which works better for you.

[Pleo]

4 hours ago, paulmohr said:

If you go in the bios of the tomahawk is a "game mode" or something like that. If you choose that it will do an auto all core overclock to around 4.2. I tried manually over clocking mine and about the best I could get was a 4.25 anyway so if want an all core overclock just do it that way, it is much easier.

 

On mine using pbo will let my single core boost speeds go higher. If you do an all core overclock you are kind of locking it in at 4.2. You get an increase with all core work loads but take a slight hit on single core stuff. You just kind of have to do some testing with what you do with your computer and see which works better for you.

So PBO + game mode enabled?

[Pleo]

Just now, Pleo said:

So PBO + game mode enabled?

Will that keep my cpu at 1.4v at idle? will it disable AMD cool 'n quiet? I dont want high voltages / core speeds on idle, let me know!

[illegalwater]

7 hours ago, Pleo said:

Because the game stutters. Even with high fps. Like when explosions n shit happen, crowded area's, i maintain high fps but zooming in etc, just stutters. Its not a smooth experience.

It's a game issue, not a hardware issue. Battlefield V is a stuttering mess.

[paulmohr]

I am not sure if you can enable game mode and pbo at the same time. I never tried to be honest. After you enable game mode and it reboots it will say something about not changing things in the bios after you turn it on. I never tested to see if you could use them both at the same time. If it works let me know, I might try it to see what it does.

 

When I did it "game mode" still let my cpu idle and everything. If I remember correctly the core speed would stay at 4.2 but the voltage would vary depending on the load.

 

I hear people talk about "auto clock" or whatever and honestly don't know what that is because I have yet to find anything labeled like that in the MSI bios. The Game thing was the only thing I saw. I am not sure if that is the same thing or not.

[Pleo]

5 hours ago, paulmohr said:

I am not sure if you can enable game mode and pbo at the same time. I never tried to be honest. After you enable game mode and it reboots it will say something about not changing things in the bios after you turn it on. I never tested to see if you could use them both at the same time. If it works let me know, I might try it to see what it does.

 

When I did it "game mode" still let my cpu idle and everything. If I remember correctly the core speed would stay at 4.2 but the voltage would vary depending on the load.

 

I hear people talk about "auto clock" or whatever and honestly don't know what that is because I have yet to find anything labeled like that in the MSI bios. The Game thing was the only thing I saw. I am not sure if that is the same thing or not.

I turned that on, and my cpu fan started ramping up in RPM's. So I just disabled it, I want my pc to be quiet lol. Just using PBO now. Still having stutters though, although it could be windows / ram related. 

[papareeves]

On 8/20/2019 at 5:16 AM, Pleo said:

How can I overclock my CPU? I dont have ALOT of experience but I know the used terms. I'm on a B450 tomahawk with 16gb ddr4 3200mhz memory in dual channel.

 

Currently using PBO and my cores dont go higher than 4124mhz. And not even all the cores go up to 4124, just some. Its also fluctuating alot, so i'm getting some higher latencies (I think)?

 

On not so demanding games i get ALOT of FPS. But in CPU demanding games (BF5) I'm getting stuttering issues. Also, in BF5 my cores dont even go past 4050mhz.

 

So i'm contemplating doing a manual OC.

 

Any advice? 

 

Using a RTX 2070 and a 650w PSU.

 

Thanks

pbo doesn't do much. amd cool and quite u can just leave on depending on your cpu i have the 3600 not the x i found a stable over clock on all cores at 4200 mhz at 1.35v you really wont see much deference how ever with that ram your not even utilizing the full potential at stock speed amd 3rd gen really lives on ram try boosted your ram to 3600 if you can do that stable and go in and individually tighten the timings on your ram while making sure you save after each one and boot yes i know thats tedious but at least if you cant boot youll know which one it is. i don't recommend going past 4.3 alot of people got the new 3rd gen and they think it over clocks like intel, IT DOESN"T i cant stress that enough with having at least two die that means that some cores are just gonna run faster i would try installing ryzen master and seeing which cores are the fastest and possibly over clock those cores higher if your bios allows not sure about the tommahawk. i promise you the 3600 can run any game on max or ultra setting especially with the 2070 i stream and play AAA games with no problems that being said don't use the stock cooler i have 240 aio front mounted because intake is always better then exhaust and you wont see a deference in temps on your gpu. just remember auto over clocking is never going to be the best yes it a quick solution but its gonna run on the highest voltage allowed and will fluctuate ur speed up and down how it sees fit a manual oc is the best for running stable at all time with the same voltage no matter what. My spec CPU: ryzen 5 3600 OC 4.2 @1.35v GPU: EVGA RTX 2060 KO ultra RAM: VENGEANCE 2x8 16GB 3600 with tighter timming MB: MSi x570 Gaming plus AIO: COOLER MASTER: ML240R PSU: CORSAIR rm650x CASE: COOLER MASTER h500 STORAGE: SAMSUNG EVO plus 970 M.2  NVMe 1tb SEAGATE barracuda 7200rpm 2tb  

[PCD Spain]

R5 3600 - 4225Mhz on all cores, Manual via Amd Ryzen Master with 1.4V.

 

 

29000 multicore Geekbench 4 score when OC'd 4225Mhz vs 27500 stock/ 4.15Ghz on its own.

 

Corsair H115i Pro / Noctua NT-H1 paste - 100% Stable, extended gaming sessions at 58-62Celsius CPU and 60C GPU 1080ti FTW3 Evga.

 

4275, 4250Mhz - instant black screen / failure to start Star Wars Battlefront 2 or any game/ random crash at Windows idle.

 

 

 

[Triboal]

10 hours ago, PCD Spain said:

R5 3600 - 4225Mhz on all cores, Manual via Amd Ryzen Master with 1.4V.

 

 

29000 multicore Geekbench 4 score when OC'd 4225Mhz vs 27500 stock/ 4.15Ghz on its own.

 

Corsair H115i Pro / Noctua NT-H1 paste - 100% Stable, extended gaming sessions at 58-62Celsius CPU and 60C GPU 1080ti FTW3 Evga.

 

4275, 4250Mhz - instant black screen / failure to start Star Wars Battlefront 2 or any game/ random crash at Windows idle.

 

 

 

First off, why are we unearthing a really old thread?

 

And secondly, please tell me that overclock is not 24/7. 1.4v OC for every day usage is not safe.