PC upgrading 2019

[Mr.Henry]

3 minutes ago, Constantin said:

Perfect!

As for the CPU, i would go for Intel... i5 9600k and an Nvidia GPU the RTX 2070 if you can.

CPU:

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/144781/bx80684i59600k/intel-coffee-lake-core-i5-9600k-lga1151-3_70-ghz-boxed

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/152215/100-100000071box/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-am4-3-6ghz-8-core

 

GPU:

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/152192/21293-01-40g/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-naytonohjain-8gb-gddr6

 

MOBO:

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/152155/tuf-gaming-x570-plus/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-atx-emolevy

 

RAM:

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/114695/cmk16gx4m2b3200c16/corsair-16gb-2-x-8gb-vengeance-lpx-ddr4-3200mhz-cl16-1_35v

 

These are the parts found on a finnish computer store, obviously i'd search for the cheapest prices somewhere else though. How does this seem, what about a new CPU cooler? 

 

[GoldenLag]

Just now, Vishera said:

Fantastic PSU.

no its not.......

 

the focus line of PSUs has some annoying OCP related issues. as long as its bought before 2018 its only an annoying issue, and nothing serious. 

 

22 minutes ago, Mr.Henry said:

I commented a little ways up on the budget, maybe let's say 1000e?

any site we can use to look at pricing?

[Constantin]

3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

again a CPU that is allready struggling due to the lack of threads. 

15 minutes ago, Mr.Henry said:

I really don't think that this CPU is struggling in new tittles, maybe 2~3 out of 10

[Mr.Henry]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

no its not.......

 

the focus line of PSUs has some annoying OCP related issues. as long as its bought before 2018 its only an annoying issue, and nothing serious. 

 

any site we can use to look at pricing?

Thanks for the info mate. Last time i ordered my parts from mindfactory or some other german site. The finnish site that I listed doesn't have the best prices but shipping/availability is good. 

[m777y]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Video Card  ($499.99 @ Best Buy) 
Monitor: Acer VG271U Pbmiipx 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($379.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1044.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 13:33 EDT-0400

 

overclock your i5 @4Ghz++

 

you will able play on 1440p monitor around +-70 fps

 

next upgrade, just buy i7 4790k used for more fps

[Mr.Henry]

Just now, m777y said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Video Card  ($499.99 @ Best Buy) 
Monitor: Acer VG271U Pbmiipx 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($379.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1044.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 13:33 EDT-0400

 

overclock your i5 @4Ghz++

 

you will able play on 1440p monitor around +-70 fps

 

next upgrade, just buy i7 4790k for more fps

I had my CPU running at 4.2 Ghz at some point steadily like back in 2015. i did drop it down back to default though.

[GoldenLag]

Just now, Constantin said:

I really don't think that this CPU is struggling in new tittles, maybe 2~3 out of 10

so, why recommend someone a CPU that is allready struggling in demanding titles?

 

the lack of HT has time and time again proven itself to be the downfall of CPUs in modern titles. it happened to the dualcores, it happened to the quadcores. and now its happening to the six-cores. 

 

you can get along perfectly fine with a HT enabled quadcore, but not a quadcore with no HT. 

[Mr.Henry]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

so, why recommend someone a CPU that is allready struggling in demanding titles?

 

the lack of HT has time and time again proven itself to be the downfall of CPUs in modern titles. it happened to the dualcores, it happened to the quadcores. and now its happening to the six-cores. 

 

you can get along perfectly fine with a HT enabled quadcore, but not a quadcore with no HT. 

What is this HT you're talking about?

[m777y]

Just now, Mr.Henry said:

I had my CPU running at 4.2 Ghz at some point steadily like back in 2015. i did drop it down back to default though.

you need high end cpu cooler as my suggest above. then overclock manualy.

 

find on google about manual overclock guide.

[Vishera]

The build i posted has a Ryzen 3600 and a RTX 2080,more gaming performance than any build posted so far.

[Mr.Henry]

4 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

so, why recommend someone a CPU that is allready struggling in demanding titles?

 

the lack of HT has time and time again proven itself to be the downfall of CPUs in modern titles. it happened to the dualcores, it happened to the quadcores. and now its happening to the six-cores. 

 

you can get along perfectly fine with a HT enabled quadcore, but not a quadcore with no HT. 

What CPU would you recommend in my budget?

[m777y]

Just now, Mr.Henry said:

What CPU would you recommend in my budget?

nothing wrong with your cpu if play on 1440p. just buy 1440p gaming monitor as like my suggest above

 

[GoldenLag]

5 minutes ago, Mr.Henry said:

What is this HT you're talking about?

hyper threading or simultanious multrithreading. 

 

it allows a core to have 2 pipelines instead of 1. non-ht 6 cores simply dont have enough threads to deal with demanding titles. 

[Mr.Henry]

8 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

hyper threading or simultanious multrithreading. 

 

it allows a core to have 2 pipelines instead of 1. non-ht 6 cores simply dont have enough threads to deal with demanding titles. 

Oh right yeah, that was it. What current Intel i5/i7 or AMD processors would you recommend in the region of 300-400e? I would really like to upgrade my CPU. I have noticed my current one struggling with certain titles on max. 

[GoldenLag]

20 minutes ago, Mr.Henry said:

Thanks for the info mate. Last time i ordered my parts from mindfactory or some other german site. The finnish site that I listed doesn't have the best prices but shipping/availability is good. 

https://hintaopas.fi/product.php?p=5174175

 

this GPU. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€204.90 @ Caseking) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€219.00 @ Caseking) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€71.24 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€102.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Total: €598.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 19:57 CEST+0200

 

this parts for the rest. 

 

hopefully its within your budget. 

[GoldenLag]

8 minutes ago, Mr.Henry said:

Oh right yeah, that was it. What current Intel i5/i7 or AMD processors would you recommend in the region of 300-400e? I would really like to upgrade my CPU. I have noticed my current one struggling with certain titles on max. 

you could get a 3700x around that price. 

 

just drop the SSD i added in the partlist i made and upgrade the CPU. 

[Mr.Henry]

6 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

you could get a 3700x around that price. 

 

just drop the SSD i added in the partlist i made and upgrade the CPU. 

Alright so what seems to be the most viable option now is:

 

Ryzen 3700x with the Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard mobo and Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory then pair that with the radeon RX 5700XT. Does the radeon rx 5700xt make a lot of noise/use power a lot?

[GoldenLag]

Just now, Mr.Henry said:

Does the radeon rx 5700xt make a lot of noise/use power a lot?

as long as you stay way clear of the reference design that is not a concern. 

 

the reference design is the blower design that everyone offers. 

 

[Mr.Henry]

5 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

as long as you stay way clear of the reference design that is not a concern. 

 

the reference design is the blower design that everyone offers. 

 

BTW, what is your opinion on stock CPU coolers that come with the CPU itself if no overclocking done.

[GoldenLag]

Just now, Mr.Henry said:

BTW, what is your opinion on stock CPU coolers that come with the CPU itself if no overclocking done.

they are perfectly fine. they are a tad noisy when under full load, but temps are fine. 

 

you shouldnt be overclocking them anyways. enabling PBO gives you the most from the CPU, no overclocking needed. 

 

if you want to overclock, then look at memmory overclocking. 

[Mr.Henry]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

they are perfectly fine. they are a tad noisy when under full load, but temps are fine. 

 

you shouldnt be overclocking them anyways. enabling PBO gives you the most from the CPU, no overclocking needed. 

 

if you want to overclock, then look at memmory overclocking. 

Do you think the RX5700TX wouldnt have any problems fitting into my Fractal design define s case? I remember my current GTX980 being able to fit but the back end of it sits right on top of one of the heatsinks of the CPU.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Mr.Henry said:

Do you think the RX5700TX wouldnt have any problems fitting into my Fractal design define s case? I remember my current GTX980 being able to fit but the back end of it sits right on top of one of the heatsinks of the CPU.

its not a very large card. so there shouldnt be any issues.