cpu Upgrading from FX-6300! Need Help deciding CPU, RAM & Motherboard

[Ankit Saiyan]

Hello Guys 

First of all I want to state my current PC Config:

 

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CPU: AMD FX-6300
MOB: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 rev1.3 
GPU: Sapphire R9 270x 2GB (Died 2 Months Ago   )
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 8GBx2 DDR3 @1600
HDD: 1TB WD Green
PSU: Corsair CX650M (It's the grey one which is a good tier 2nd PSU) (6 Months Old)
OS: Ubuntu Linux and Windows 10 64 Bit

Everything inside a Corsair Spec-01 Cabinet.

 

 

Since GPU had died I thought of buying a new GPU with 20000 INR Budget. But then I realized I should move to Ryzen series but that will cost even more because I will have to do a full system upgrade.

 

So...

 

I am planning on building a Ryzen PC.

 

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BUDEGT: Strictly 20,000 INR (281.13 USD)

 

 

Since I am to build a gaming PC but currently spending on the important parts (Mobo, RAM, CPU only so that my PC atleast could turn on  and I could do my work.

Parts that I have selected so far...

 

Note: I will be posting products with price in INR (Indian Rupees) & USD (United States Dollar)

 

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CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @[10,390 / $145.83] || Cheapest I could find on online stores
MB: Asrock B450 Pro 4 @[6,930 / $97.27] || Asrock B450M Pro 4 @[5,835 / $81.9]
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z @3000MHz 1x8GB @[4,436 / $62.26]

TOTAL: 21,756 / $305.3  with ATX   ||  20,661 / $289.99  with MicroATX

 

 

 

I am actually confused in Motherboards. Both of them have same features only the size difference that I have noticed so far.

I like the ATX more . It also has a bigger chipset Heatsink & looks better but it is ~$16 costlier.

 

For Ram I am planing to get a RGB one. 

I am not getting 2x 8GB because it will go out of budget. I will add another stick later.

 

Note: One more thing to notice that I will not be playing much games but when I will be playing, I will only be playing AAA games like Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Far Cry 5, etc. Mostly i will be doing computer programming, 2D game designing. Working with Unity Engine, Adobe Illustrator, Java etc. So without GPU it will be hard but I will manage as I am managing for 2 months without GPU on current build and even without any graphics driver because my current motherboard doesn't support drivers for Windows 10.

So...

Alternate Build: I am thinking of getting APU so that I could work as well as play games until I get a GPU.

 

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CPU: Athlon 200GE APU @[4,400 / $61.76] || Ryzen 5 3400G @[12,960 / $181.9]*
MB: Asrock B450 Pro 4 @[6,930 / $97.27] || Asrock B450M Pro 4 @[5,835 / $81.9]*
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z @3200MHz 2x8GB @[9,500 / $133.34]* ||  G.Skill Trident Z @3000MHz 1x8GB @[4,436 / $62.26]**

TOTAL*: 20,830 / $292.36
TOTAL**: 23,231 / $326
 

 

 

Case*: I will be upgrading the CPU later on and sell the current one. I will get two 8 GB RAMs in this build.

Case**: Already costly enough   I will not be upgrading 3400g for a good while and also I will choose MicroATX  with it.

I will also get the GPU later on in both cases but i will loose the power of CPU  

 

Now suggest me whatever is best. My Budget will remain 20000 INR I can stretch it to 21k-22k only.

Please don't suggest an Intel build    because I have already looked into it. And Intel Motherboards are too costly here in India.

Also I am not going to buy any CPU cooler.

 

GPU I will be getting is- GTX 1660 6GB (Non-Ti)  ||  RX 580 8GB but that's a later case.

 

Thank You

[Akira Shimazu]

if you want to go with APU the go with 2200G, since you are going with DGPU, 2400gor 3400G will not be worth it at all. especially looking at the workstation itself. and  the athlon really sucks performing same with the Pentium Gold or perhaps silver.

 

your first preference about 5 1600. asroc pro 4 and gskil ram was good. but i highly recommend 2600 since ryzen2nd gen its far better than the first gen. the mobo was fine it was decent tho. why don't you check the Team-Vulcan for cheaper ram price? and tbh single ram cut your gaming performance by 20/30% just reminding

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($133.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($41.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $254.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-16 07:41 EDT-0400

 

 

GPu is more likely to be 1660 or rx570 for budget ones

[LukeSavenije]

17 minutes ago, Ankit Saiyan said:

only the size difference that I have noticed so far.

the pro4 atx has the same vrm as the matx, so just get the cheapest out of the two

 

60 dollars is way too much for a single stick, get something non-rgb at 2x8, much better

 

you could get a second hand 1070/vega 64 or something along those lines, but the cxm will start to whine, because dual forward. it's not dangerous, just annoying (this shouldn't be a problem on the 1660 and 580)

[Ankit Saiyan]

First of all,  Thank you so much guys for replying quickly and reading the long post.

 

1 hour ago, Wolfycapt said:

if you want to go with APU the go with 2200G, since you are going with DGPU, 2400gor 3400G will not be worth it at all. especially looking at the workstation itself. and  the athlon really sucks performing same with the Pentium Gold or perhaps silver.....

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($133.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($41.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $254.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-16 07:41 EDT-0400

 

 

GPu is more likely to be 1660 or rx570 for budget ones

So one thing is straight up clear I should not go with the APU. 

 

Now... first of all I am living in India so everything is Costly here.

Ryzen 5 2600, the cheapest one I could find is ~$204 | On Amazon India it is ~$220, even more costlier 

Vulcan RAM is not available in India. And I am sticking with RGB one please. They look amazing 

Any suggestions?

 

Also someone told me that Asrock B450/M Pro4 motherboard doesn't have an iGPU so my computer will not boot with Motherboard, 1600 and RAM alone. Is it right? If so then what should I do in this budget? Should I get a Cheapest GT 710 GPU?

 

1 hour ago, LukeSavenije said:

the pro4 atx has the same vrm as the matx, so just get the cheapest out of the two

 

60 dollars is way too much for a single stick, get something non-rgb at 2x8, much better

 

you could get a second hand 1070/vega 64 or something along those lines, but the cxm will start to whine, because dual forward. it's not dangerous, just annoying (this shouldn't be a problem on the 1660 and 580)

 

I was talking about the heatsink size. They are a bit bigger in ATX one but IDK if it matters... just curios.

 

Also about the GPU i will be posting again for that when I will have the vudget I am not worrying about it right now. 

[Akira Shimazu]

1 hour ago, Ankit Saiyan said:

First of all,  Thank you so much guys for replying quickly and reading the long post.

 

So one thing is straight up clear I should not go with the APU. 

 

Now... first of all I am living in India so everything is Costly here.

Ryzen 5 2600, the cheapest one I could find is ~$204 | On Amazon India it is ~$220, even more costlier 

Vulcan RAM is not available in India. And I am sticking with RGB one please. They look amazing 

Any suggestions?

 

Also someone told me that Asrock B450/M Pro4 motherboard doesn't have an iGPU so my computer will not boot with Motherboard, 1600 and RAM alone. Is it right? If so then what should I do in this budget? Should I get a Cheapest GT 710 GPU?

 

 

I was talking about the heatsink size. They are a bit bigger in ATX one but IDK if it matters... just curios.

 

Also about the GPU i will be posting again for that when I will have the vudget I am not worrying about it right now. 

sorry i forgot that AMD doesn't have integrated graphic. and onboard GPU in MOBO never happened at least 10 years ago. umm. get like 710 second hand.

[EL02]

For that budget i would suggest to get a b350 motherboard, ryzen 5 3400g and 16gb of ram dual channel (at least running at 2666mhz +non rgb). If you really like rgb that much just buy some rgb led strips.

[Ankit Saiyan]

18 hours ago, EL02 said:

For that budget i would suggest to get a b350 motherboard, ryzen 5 3400g and 16gb of ram dual channel (at least running at 2666mhz +non rgb). If you really like rgb that much just buy some rgb led strips.

B350 boards have been discontinued and also they are not available anywhere in India (online Market). Even B450 are cheaper than "available B350s". I was going with A series board but after searching alot I came across this budget board. So I am finalizing it for good.

I will go with the Micro ATX version to save some bucks.

About the RAM, I think I will have to buy the Non-RGB ones 

I am getting this RAM now: G.Skill Ripjaws V 3000 1x8GB  @$46 Is it good?

 

I am really confused with the CPU. 

Ryzen 5 1600 @$145.83 + GPU GT710 @$40.7 = $186.53 "OR" Ryzen 5 3400G @$181.9 is a better performance deal?

Also, as the Wolfycapt suggested me to buy R5 2600. I checked the Newegg website and there I am getting R5 2600 for $189 Inclusive of International shipping charges which is still cheaper than what I am getting here. If I get it, it will be much better but I will go out of budget as I need a cheapest GPU as well.

[Mathieu9836]

Since your budget is very limited you will have to make some choice, either reduce performance or cut into RGB and useless stuff.

If you run a APU you can avoid buying a dedicated GPU, if you want a dedicated GPU i would go with the ryzen 5 1600 or 2600 unless you find a 2200g or 2400g for cheaper then those two CPUs. Any B450 board will get the job done, 350 and 370 boards are not really cheaper. For Ram you have to use at least 16gb since most game we play use 7gb ish if nothing else then the game run, i usually run around 8 to 9gb. If you don't have enought RAM space you will loose performance and Ryzen NEED RAM, the faster the better.

[EL02]

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6 hours ago, Ankit Saiyan said:

B350 boards have been discontinued and also they are not available anywhere in India (online Market). Even B450 are cheaper than "available B350s". I was going with A series board but after searching alot I came across this budget board. So I am finalizing it for good.

I will go with the Micro ATX version to save some bucks.

About the RAM, I think I will have to buy the Non-RGB ones 

I am getting this RAM now: G.Skill Ripjaws V 3000 1x8GB  @$46 Is it good?

 

I am really confused with the CPU. 

Ryzen 5 1600 @$145.83 + GPU GT710 @$40.7 = $186.53 "OR" Ryzen 5 3400G @$181.9 is a better performance deal?

Also, as the Wolfycapt suggested me to buy R5 2600. I checked the Newegg website and there I am getting R5 2600 for $189 Inclusive of International shipping charges which is still cheaper than what I am getting here. If I get it, it will be much better but I will go out of budget as I need a cheapest GPU as well.

If you are getting the r5 2600 for that price, go for it. But if you pair it with a b450(maybe ~$80) it will cost 270. So with that choice your budget is not enough for a gpu. I think for now the r5 3400g is the best option, just because the games you are planning to play wont run well on the gt 710. At least get a rx560.

[Ankit Saiyan]

10 hours ago, EL02 said:

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If you are getting the r5 2600 for that price, go for it. But if you pair it with a b450(maybe ~$80) it will cost 270. So with that choice your budget is not enough for a gpu. I think for now the r5 3400g is the best option, just because the games you are planning to play wont run well on the gt 710. At least get a rx560.

Ya I am well aware of that. Actually I wouldn't be buying a GPU at all if system could boot with Ryzen 5 CPUs.

I am not spending on RX560 because I plan to buy a RX580 or 1660 in 2 months. That's why getting the cheapest possible GPU rn just to get the system on.

And since I am limited on budget and seems like getting 3400G is the only option I can opt for, I will not be buying GT710 at the moment.

I am still deciding though. Thinking of budget to increase so that I could go with 2 sticks of RAM right from the start.

[EL02]

1 hour ago, Ankit Saiyan said:

Ya I am well aware of that. Actually I wouldn't be buying a GPU at all if system could boot with Ryzen 5 CPUs.

I am not spending on RX560 because I plan to buy a RX580 or 1660 in 2 months. That's why getting the cheapest possible GPU rn just to get the system on.

And since I am limited on budget and seems like getting 3400G is the only option I can opt for, I will not be buying GT710 at the moment.

I am still deciding though. Thinking of budget to increase so that I could go with 2 sticks of RAM right from the start.

If you are gonna buy a graphics card in two months, the best thing would be to not complete the system right now, but wait till you buy the gpu. So the best thing would be r5 2600 and rx580.