what cpu should i get???

[lavacandy]

i only play games should i get a 3700x or i7-9700k

[Mad153]

Generally the i7.

What games tho

[Crunken]

9700k

[lavacandy]

1 minute ago, Mad153 said:

Generally the i7.

What games tho

games are Destiny 2 Ark single player games tbh i play all sorts of games 

[Mad153]

The i7 will do fine.

An i5 would probably also do for less,

But your call

[lavacandy]

1 minute ago, Crunken said:

9700k

kk some people told me that the 3700x is just as good if not better and is better with long term proofing the pc

[Mad153]

 

This is still very relevant even in 2019

[5x5]

The 3700X - the 9700K is irrelevant at this point and price. In games they are virtually identical. You will not notice a difference unless you are using a 2080 Ti at 1080p at which point the 9700K is about 4% faster. In everything else - the 3700X offers 30-40% more performance and speed. The Ryzen 7 uses less power AND runs cooler than the i7. It offers an actual upgrade path up to a 16-core 3950X, whereas the 1151 socket is end of life - 10th gen Intel CPUs are confirmed to not be compatible so with that you are stuck with the space heater that is the 9900K at best. In addition, Zen3 which is due in 2020 is rumoured to be compatible with existing AM4 boards so you could potentially have an even better upgrade option next year. Lastly, I'd like to mention the constant flow of security issues popping up with Intel that require patches which reduce performance.

 

TL:DR - the 3700X is a more advanced, faster, cooler, more efficient processor.

[5x5]

1 minute ago, lavacandy said:

kk some people told me that the 3700x is just as good if not better and is better with long term proofing the pc

Because it is. The 9700K is just not worth the asking price considering everything pointed out above. Buying it is not a good investment for the future or even currently.

[5x5]

1 minute ago, Mad153 said:

 

This is still very relevant even in 2019

No, no it is not. Please stop spreading false information when Zen2 is NOTICEABLY superior to Zen+ and CoffeeLake

[Mad153]

Further reading

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-9700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X/4030vs4043

 

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/294473-amds-ryzen-7-3700x-and-ryzen-7-3900x-reviewed-red-storm-ryzen

 

And this thread

 

[5x5]

4 minutes ago, lavacandy said:

kk some people told me that the 3700x is just as good if not better and is better with long term proofing the pc

Take a look at CS:GO - a game that only really uses 2-4 cores. Intel is losing quite noticeably because AMD's CPUs have a decent IPC advantage that clockspeed cannot compensate.

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

No, no it is not. Please stop spreading false information when Zen2 is NOTICEABLY superior to Zen+ and CoffeeLake

^^^ Massive improvement over Zen 2. IIRC that was competing with Haswell/Skylake single core perf depending on what RAM you ran it with, whereas Zen 2 is matching Intel's current chips at slightly lower clockspeeds. 

[5x5]

2 minutes ago, Mad153 said:

Further reading

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-9700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X/4030vs4043

 

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/294473-amds-ryzen-7-3700x-and-ryzen-7-3900x-reviewed-red-storm-ryzen

 

And this thread

 

you can see, Userbenchmark is being laughed at universally. It's becoming as silly as CPUBoss. Please stop trying to make the OP waste his money because you are a fan of a specific brand. That is not a nice thing to do

 

[5x5]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

^^^ Massive improvement over Zen 2. IIRC that was competing with Haswell/Skylake single core perf depending on what RAM you ran it with, whereas Zen 2 is matching Intel's current chips at slightly lower clockspeeds. 

What are you talking about? Zen2 IPC is higher and Intel can barely compensate with clockspeed. As evident from Linus and GN's review - it can't even win in every game even when overclocked.

[5x5]

In the absolute worst case - Intel CPUs are only 5-6% ahead. There is no way you can justify a product with lower performance, worse efficiency and 6-7 massive security flaws as better because of it... @lavacandy The data speaks for itself

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

What are you talking about? Zen2 IPC is higher and Intel can barely compensate with clockspeed. As evident from Linus and GN's review - it can't even win in every game even when overclocked.

Exactly. Zen2's clockspeeds are slightly lower at stock (4.4-4.6 boost IIRC, vs the 4.6-4.7 on Intel chips), and they match/beat said Intel chips. In other words, better IPC. 

[Fasauceome]

3 hours ago, Mad153 said:

Further reading

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-9700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X/4030vs4043

Lol MemeBenchmark strikes again.

8:00

[5x5]

[Mad153]

Quote

Please stop trying to make the OP waste his money because you are a fan of a specific brand

I'm not really...

I just googled it for him.

I have no idea what's there (not like no clue but didn't read conclusion )

[5x5]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

Exactly. Zen2's clockspeeds are slightly lower at stock (4.4-4.6 boost IIRC, vs the 4.6-4.7 on Intel chips), and they match/beat said Intel chips. In other words, better IPC. 

No? Where are you living. Look above - the stock 9900K (which is at 4.7) is just about match the 4.3 3700X - that means that Zen2 has a 10% IPC lead over Intel. That's the jump from Ivy to Coffee

[5x5]

Just now, Mad153 said:

I'm not really...

I just googled it for him.

I have no idea what's there

Then don't give advice without data to back it up

[Fasauceome]

Just now, 5x5 said:

No? Where are you living. Look above - the stock 9900K (which is at 4.7) is just about match the 4.3 3700X - that means that Zen2 has a 10% IPC lead over Intel. That's the jump from Ivy to Coffee

I think you are agreeing with @Zando Bob without realizing it, reading both your posts it sounds like you're getting at the same thing

[Zando_]

Just now, 5x5 said:

No? Where are you living. Look above - the stock 9900K (which is at 4.7) is just about match the 4.3 3700X - that means that Zen2 has a 10% IPC lead over Intel. That's the jump from Ivy to Coffee

I hadn't seen the OCed numbers, just stock. But we're both saying Zen 2 has a better IPC than Intel's chips so I'm not sure where the disagreement is? 

[5x5]