Is this board sufficient for an R7 3700X?

[waxer_R6]

Hi All!

I need a little help because i am a bit out of the loop on MoBos.

 

I will upgrade my i7 4790k to a Ryzen 7 3700x in the next one or two months.

I will use this ram probably: Corsair Vengeance LPX (2x, 16GB, DDR4-3000)

 

My PC is only used to play Rainbow 6 Siege competitively, but i want to stream in the future.

Since i have a mATX case i want to keep. I need an AM4 mATX Mainboard.

The best one that is available in my Country is the Asus TUF B450M-Plus Gaming. Is this a decent board?

If you can recommend any better boards just tell me! 

I will not overclock it much, I need max reliability!

 

Edit: My friend mentioned that the x570 Boards have PCI-e 4.0, but i think GPUs will use 3.0 in the years to come, and for storage I will not buy insane fast PCI SSDs. 
So I think the x570 PCI-e 4.0 argument is invalid?

 

(GPU: GTX1070/ Display: Acer 165Hz 1440p)

For further Specs of my rig visit my Profile.

[Faisal A]

For reliability, that is a decent board. You might get good overclocks on it though so no point leaving performance for 0 cost

[Jurrunio]

10 minutes ago, waxer_R6 said:

Asus TUF B450M-Plus Gaming. Is this a decent board?

For getting high VRM temperatures? Yes, it does that very well. Dont think it will be hot enough to thermal throttle the VRM but that's alread not good for max durability.

 

what about MSI's B450 boards?

[waxer_R6]

@Jurrunio

The two available Boards are:

MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM MATX, would actually suit my Blue, Black, White, Color scheme

MSI B450M BAZOOKA PLUS MATX

 

Is either of them a good choice?

 

Have TUF boards become so bad?

[5x5]

3 minutes ago, waxer_R6 said:

@Jurrunio

The two available Boards are:

MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM MATX, would actually suit my Blue, Black, White, Color scheme

MSI B450M BAZOOKA PLUS MATX

 

Have TUF boards become so bad?

Both are meh. Look at a Strix boars.

[waxer_R6]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

Both are meh. Look at a Strix boars.

I am sorry, there are no micro ATX Strix boards  at least not available in my country. 

And again I do not need an ultra high end board. It just need to be reliable and have essential Features for gaming and nothing else.

[5x5]

2 minutes ago, waxer_R6 said:

I am sorry, there are no micro ATX Strix boards  at least not available in my country. 

And again I do not need an ultra high end board. It just need to be reliable and have essential Features for gaming and nothing else.

Look at ASRock boards, what are the options there?

[Mathieu9836]

12 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Both are meh. Look at a Strix boars.

The strix is a bit better then the two MSI boards mentionned, i would get something like the MSI B450 Mortar, the B450M Gaming plus or the Bazooka plus.

The Asus B450M Tuf boards are not bad board for a 3700X OC, but they are kind of the limit of what i would suggest for the 3700X but you need enough air flow on the VRMs

[waxer_R6]

2 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Look at ASRock boards, what are the options there?

AsRock Fatal1ty B450M Pro4, this is the only AsRock Board that is somewhat readily available. And i had many unpleasant Asrock experiences and i would rather not buy an Asrock board...

 

Again there are NO strix mATX boards , at least not in my country

 

[5x5]

1 minute ago, waxer_R6 said:

AsRock Fatal1ty B450M Pro4, this is the only AsRock Board that is somewhat readily available. And i had many unpleasant Asrock experiences and i would rather not buy an Asrock board...

 

Again there are NO strix mATX boards , at least not in my country

 

Gigabyte?

[Mathieu9836]

What is your budget and can you use a mITX or you want the mATX absolutely

[waxer_R6]

2 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Gigabyte?

Gigabyte B450 Aorus M is the best available board i can find, what about it? isn't this a lower tier?

And the TUF has 2 M.2 this one only as 1

 

the MSI has also two

[waxer_R6]

3 minutes ago, Mathieu9836 said:

What is your budget and can you use a mITX or you want the mATX absolutely

I do not have a budget, Yes i know there is an ITX Asus x570 board, but why would i buy a Board that is twice the price but doesnt have more functions?

[Mathieu9836]

13 minutes ago, waxer_R6 said:

Gigabyte B450 Aorus M is the best available board i can find, what about it? isn't this a lower tier?

And the TUF has 2 M.2 this one only as 1

 

the MSI has also two

If one Gigabyte board i bad, they are all exept the Ultra Gaming 7 because they all use the same 4 phase VRM,

Msi make some good boards but mostly X470 stuff, mATX board it depends

Asus B450 and X470 Strix-I  mITX boards are good

Asrock mATX boards are not better then Gigabyte's boards

 

Best B450M boards you can get are the MSI B450m Gaming Plus, MSI B450m Bazooka Plus and the Mortar. Other then that i would get the mITX Strix-I from Asus and thats about it.

[5x5]

14 minutes ago, waxer_R6 said:

I do not have a budget, Yes i know there is an ITX Asus x570 board, but why would i buy a Board that is twice the price but doesnt have more functions?

Because you want good quality components rather than cheap Chinese caps?

[waxer_R6]

2 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Because you want good quality components rather than cheap Chinese caps?

So u are saying all the mATX board have cheap chinese caps?

 

@Mathieu9836 so I can also looke for x470 mATX boards too?

there are no x470 mATX boards

Edited August 2, 2019 by waxer_R6

[Jurrunio]

51 minutes ago, waxer_R6 said:

MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM MATX

Same power delivery as Bazooka Plus, but I think better feature set. My choice then

 

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Have TUF boards become so bad? 

TUF Gaming is not TUF, TUF has fallen since Z170. TUF Gaming has seen a lot of bad boards, tho they are improving since the B450-Pro (entry level components but at least big heatsinks to deal with the heat) and to the X570 Plus.

 

48 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Both are meh. Look at a Strix boars.

B chipset strix are the meh boards here. You need the X370/X470/X570 ones to be better (significantly at that) but those are ATX only.

 

44 minutes ago, waxer_R6 said:

I am sorry, there are no micro ATX Strix boards  at least not available in my country. 

And again I do not need an ultra high end board. It just need to be reliable and have essential Features for gaming and nothing else.

because there isn't any Strix mATX board on AM4.

 

41 minutes ago, Mathieu9836 said:

The strix is a bit better then the two MSI boards mentionned

oh come on

 

11 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Because you want good quality components rather than cheap Chinese caps?

caps are the least worrying thing on a board when you can run them cool (and hot VRM ruins that). Their lifespan basically scales exponentially with lower temperatures.

 

Oh and boards in general use taiwanese apak, tho I might have spelt the name wrong.

[waxer_R6]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Same power delivery as Bazooka Plus, but I think better feature set. My choice then

 

B chipset strix are the meh boards here. You need the X370/X470/X570 ones to be better (significantly at that) but those are ATX only.

 

because there isn't any Strix mATX board on AM4.

 

oh come on

 

caps are the least worrying thing on a board when you can run them cool (and hot VRM ruins that). Their lifespan basically scales exponentially with lower temperatures.

 

Oh and boards in general use taiwanese apak, tho I might have spelt the name wrong.

 

 

Thanks for all the info!

 

But I think the Mortar has higher RAM Frequ support right? which I think is better right? I need no extra features... not even RGB

Its a simple gaming pc.. so are u sure about the the Bazooka?

And again i will not really overclock the hell out of my CPU.

[waxer_R6]

And another question, I want to buy 2x 16GB DDR4 RAM, will all of the board mentioned above support this? I hope so, because then an mATX board would benefit from that. So I can later upgrade it with another 2x16 GB.

 

Thoughts?

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, waxer_R6 said:

But I think the Mortar has higher RAM Frequ support right? which I think is better right? I need no extra features... not even RGB

Its a simple gaming pc.. so are u sure about the the Bazooka?

I think all MSI B450 mATX boards are based on the same PCB with different features enabled on them...  somehow Mortar has 3466 cert but bazooka plus doesn't, weird.

 

3 minutes ago, waxer_R6 said:

And another question, I want to buy 2x 16GB DDR4 RAM, will all of the board mentioned above support this? I hope so, because then an mATX board would benefit from that. So I can later upgrade it with another 2x16 GB.

 

Thoughts?

Yes

[waxer_R6]

52 minutes ago, Mathieu9836 said:

The strix is a bit better then the two MSI boards mentionned, i would get something like the MSI B450 Mortar, the B450M Gaming plus or the Bazooka plus.

The Asus B450M Tuf boards are not bad board for a 3700X OC, but they are kind of the limit of what i would suggest for the 3700X but you need enough air flow on the VRMs

Totally forgot to reply to you sir! you would agree that the MSI Mortar would make the most sense? the only thing this PC needs to able to do is to push as many frames as possible and to handle streaming. No video editing no other workloads. I only need to plug in peripherals.

 

and for ther rest of you guy. I am running a Corsair H100i (i believe it is) so i think the fans (6 in total) in my case should bring ample airflow.

[waxer_R6]

My current setup btw, i think there is enough airflow in the case...

[Mathieu9836]

The Mortar is what i would pick in the mATX format, if you have multiple fans i would suggest you use a fan hub if you don't already have one. If you are only gaming you can same up some money and buy a 3600 instead of the 3700X, both will do the same job even with a RTX 2080.

[waxer_R6]

12 minutes ago, Mathieu9836 said:

The Mortar is what i would pick in the mATX format, if you have multiple fans i would suggest you use a fan hub if you don't already have one. If you are only gaming you can same up some money and buy a 3600 instead of the 3700X, both will do the same job even with a RTX 2080.

What about streaming?

I have everything regarding cooling

 

[Mathieu9836]

Oh, then if you stream those 2 additional might help.