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Hey there, am pretty amateur in this matters, i have seen the video where Linus build a Editing Machine for around 6 editors at the time. 

 

I am looking to build the same but for 3D modelling using Revit. 

 

I would like some steps to start this project. 

 

Thanks!!

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linus did it but was a massive failure because is not practical

 

you put all your eggs in one basket, when one of the virtual machines crahses the others end crashing or requiring a system restart

 

you basically make a mess of cables, spend way too much on motherboard and cpu

 

better go for traditional workstation, one machine, one user

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+1 on what @goto10 said.

 

If you'd like, I'm sure some of the members here (including myself) could suggest single-user machines that would do a great job.

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Nah Linus is doing it more for the sake of doing it rather than being practical. Liquid cooling those graphics cards is the first no-no for a system that has to work, since endurance is important and liquid cooling is more prone to failure than air cooling.

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5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Liquid cooling those graphics cards is the first no-no for a system that has to work, since endurance is important and liquid cooling is more prone to failure than air cooling.

But -  but I have a machine that's liquid-cooled that I use for work...

 

*feels lied to*

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unRAID server:

Xeon  E5-1630v4 |  Asus X99-E WS | 4x8GB G-Skill DDR4 @2400MHz | Samsung 960 EVO 250GB cache drive | 12TB spinning rust | Corsair RM750X

 

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1 minute ago, Lord Mirdalan said:

But -  but I have a machine that's liquid-cooled that I use for work...

 

*feels lied to*

better buy more stuff now just in case some of your current hardware drops out then

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

better buy more stuff now just in case some of your current hardware drops out then

I have another machine as a backup when the watercooled rig needs maintenance.

Screwdriver specs: Long, pointy. Turns things. Some kind of metal.

 

Main rig: 

i9-7900x | Asus X299-Prime | 4x8GB G-Skill TridentZ @3300MHz | Samsung 970 Evo 500GB | Intel 5400S 1TB | Corsair HX1200

 

unRAID server:

Xeon  E5-1630v4 |  Asus X99-E WS | 4x8GB G-Skill DDR4 @2400MHz | Samsung 960 EVO 250GB cache drive | 12TB spinning rust | Corsair RM750X

 

FreeNAS server:

AMD something-or-other | Asus prebuilt sadness | 8GB DDR3-1600 | 9TB magnetic storage | Potential fire threat

 

HTPC:

i7-4790 | GTX1650 | Dell Sadness | 12GB DDR3-1600 | Samsung 860 250GB | 1TB magnetic storage | James Loudspeaker SPL3 x2 | Corsair SF450

 

 

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Well i understand what you guys are telling me but i do have a need and it is portability, i know i can get portable workstations but they are a) expensive, b) not that portable at all and c) i dont really feel very sure about my team carrying 6k US Dollars around in their bags. 

 

Still i appreciate all your answers! 

 

Also i did not meant making a water cooling machine nor a gaming machine for modelling. I would like to make the machine with all the correct components of a normal workstation just with the need3d horsepower to feed 6 or 8 modellers using RDP or any similar solution. 

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remember that the difference between a gaming pc and a workstation sometimes is only the gpu

 

make portable a workstation in the way you say you want is a bad idea, more easy to be stolen or damaged in transport

 

i think that what you meed is some good laptops with external gpu enclosures or a good internal quaddro gpu like a lenovo p52 or something bigger

 

the implementation of what you want will always be all your eggs in one basket, no matter what

 

multiple workstations allow you a tremendous flexibility, a single pc will give you 0 flexibility, but that is just my opinion

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On 8/4/2019 at 7:31 PM, Tomtrubo said:

Well i understand what you guys are telling me but i do have a need and it is portability, i know i can get portable workstations but they are a) expensive, b) not that portable at all and c) i dont really feel very sure about my team carrying 6k US Dollars around in their bags. 

 

Still i appreciate all your answers! 

 

Also i did not meant making a water cooling machine nor a gaming machine for modelling. I would like to make the machine with all the correct components of a normal workstation just with the need3d horsepower to feed 6 or 8 modellers using RDP or any similar solution. 

You're really not going to save that much money. Consider:

1. You'll still need a Monitor, KB, and Mouse for each "workstation" - The monitor in particular is going to be costly regardless, if you're serious about colour accuracy.

2. You're still going to need a GPU for each workstation - same issue as above.

3. You're going to spend quite a significant amount on a Motherboard, CPU, and RAM to give each user a usable workstation.

 

In the end, you're really only saving money on little stuff like the case and power supply, which are dirt cheap in the grand scheme of a built cost. And,  you may end up finding that a good CPU that can manage the number of users you need is more expensive than just getting each user the correct CPU to begin with.

 

And lastly, if you don't trust your staff with expensive equipment, that's a fundamental problem with your business. You either need to hire (or designate) a trusted employee to manage the equipment (this would be the same whether it was one "multi-user" shared workstation, or multiple individual workstations), or you need to hire better employees that you can trust.

 

If you're worried about them getting robbed, that concern doesn't disappear, it actually increases, because if the person with the one PC gets robbed, now you've got nothing, instead of just a single PC getting stolen. If theft is a major concern, call your insurance company (because as a business, you're insured... right?) and make sure the workstations are all insured against theft.

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