Ryzen 3 or old 2011 Xeon

[Fearless247]

Hey guys I got a system with these specs currently 

 

CPU: I7-3770 (non K)

RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600mhz 

GPU: RX470 8gb

SSD: Kingston SATA 120gb (boot drive)

HDD: 500GB seagate X3 (total of 1.5TB, for games and stuffs) 

PSU: 500 Watt EVGA bronze 

 

So I have a few questions, firstly is an older E5-2650V2 Xeon or Ryzen 3 1200 a better budget choice, I know the processors themselves will run about the same, but the 2011 mobo will be about twice as much as the am4 one, but the 2011 supports ddr3 memory so I won't have to buy anymore ram. The E5 has double the cores of the 1200, but is locked where the 1200 isnt.  I've heard from sooo many people that "games don't use more than 4 cores" and that may be true for older games, but on newer games from my examinations is simply not the case, my friend has a lga 1366 build with a xeon x5650 and its a 6 core 12 thread cpu, 16gb of ram, and my rx 470 8gb for testing. His machine was pulling a constant 15 more fps in the 2013 tomb raider on all max settings than I was with my I7, even though its a full 1 Ghz faster. So will the extra 4 cores on the E5 beat out the single threaded performance of the 1200, overall which would be better for gaming? I usually stick to racing sims like assetto corsa and PC2, both games run like butter now, so I'm not really upgrading to have better performance in those games, but my pc can't keep up with my friends x5650 1060 3gb machine in any of the newer games like FC5 or SOTTR. I also want to be completely VR ready when I scrape some money together to get a headset, and I know a guy who has a stock fx 6300 paired with his vive and he says for 80% of the time its fine, and my I7 will wreck a 6300 in any task so do I really need to upgrade my cpu for VR or is a 3770 "good enough"? Also my friend with the 1060 3gb offered a trade for my rx 470 8gb cause he wants the extra vram for modded skyrim and such. Is that a good trade or no? On paper its better than mine, but in games like GTA 5 on max it will use a good 4.5Gb of my 8 so how would that fare with a 3 gig card? Anyways thanks in advance, peace. 

[Jurrunio]

Ryzen 3 is better. More cores is not better than more speed per core when it comes to these two. Gaming is not computing, benchmark scores dont tell much.

 

If you want to stay cheap, just stick to the 3770. Not a bad chip for an RX470 when you already have it

 

Also a bad trade for the graphics card considering you have to drop your texture quality settings and antialiasing. At least make your friend add a lunch for it.

[Slayer3032]

If you have a line on a cheap X79 motherboard, you already have DDR3, need more DDR3 for the tasks you usually do and could benefit from twice the cores you currently have but locked at the base clock of your current 3770. Yeah go for it. Maybe if you have some plans to build a home server at some point that you could repurpose that hardware into after you upgrade again, that would really well justify it too. Just keep in mind that you should value hardware at the performance level of which it performs.

 

Otherwise, AM4 is going to be a better performer for games unless you're playing really really well optimized games which already utilize all of your threads. Coming from someone who's currently using X58 with a X5675@4.6ghz. I would have definitely upgraded if I couldn't overclock this thing as far as it will go. Xeons are generally better binned than their i7 counterparts, so if you have the ability to overclock them they're amazing value if you can get them cheap. Unless you buy the super expensive special unlocked skus though for the newer platforms, they're all locked which is no fun.

 

I don't think it would be good for VR though, I imagine it would have terrible fps lows and not perform very well just because of the low IPC.