Ryzen 7 cooler

[another_member]

Hello all, 

 

I might get a Ryzen 7 3000 (not sure on exact numbers yet), and if i do, then I believe that should be paired with a good cooler to keep it cool. The build will be very RGB and Aesthetics based seems so RGB scores a lot of points for me. I'm looking for something which looks good but also comes with good cooling performance. I have been tempted by NZXTs line of coolers, so let me know yourthoughts on those.

 

Later I will also create the same post or a similar post in the air cooling category in case you think that air cooling could be better. I will post a link as it below this.

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1074837-ryzen-7-cooler/

 

Thanks,

 

Catchears

 

Edited June 21, 2019 by Catchears
Removed part about duplicate post.

[another_member]

Just now, Alexsolo said:

Report your own post to a mod and they'll remove it.

Thank you.

[Rhaemond]

Since you're getting a top-of-the-line Ryzen, I'd suggest getting an AIO. Would ID cooling interest you? I know it's not that premium of a brand but it has some RGB AIOs that you might be interested in. Alternatively, NZXT coolers are good and yea you can always get that especially the Kraken.

[another_member]

3 minutes ago, Rhaemond said:

Would ID cooling interest you? I know it's not that premium of a brand but it has some RGB AIOs that you might be interested in.

Id rather stick with a more well-known brand, but thanks for the suggestion.

 

5 minutes ago, Rhaemond said:

Alternatively, NZXT coolers are good and yea you can always get that especially the Kraken.

Yep, thanks. I was looking at the X52 or X62. Any personal opinions on those?

[Rhaemond]

6 minutes ago, Catchears said:

Id rather stick with a more well-known brand, but thanks for the suggestion.

 

Yep, thanks. I was looking at the X52 or X62. Any personal opinions on those?

Well ID-cooling is somewhat a well known brand though, atleast for us here in the Philippines. It rarely fails and delivers well when it comes to managing temps plus it's cheap,

Check their AURAFLOW or DASHFLOW AIOs since they're really aesthetically pleasing and very cheap compared to the Kraken.

 

On the X52 vs X62 choices, personally, if the difference between them is around only ~10$ or so, I'd just get the X62 because why not. 

[fluxdeity]

These new Ryzen chips are incredibly power efficient. 16 threads at 105 watts(or 65 watts for 3700x) is insanely low. AMD isn't the old FX line of AMD processors anymore. No need for an AIO(all AIO's are a waste of money and you're better off going custom loop so if anything fails you can replace just one part.)

 

Can't beat a solid air cooler where you can replace the fan if it stops spinning but you'd need to replace the whole AIO if it breaks.

[Dedayog]

Depending on the Ryzen you get, the stock coolers are almost as good as the top tier aftermarket coolers.

 

You don't need aftermarket cooling if you're not OCing and pushing the chip.

 

If you want a cooler for aesthetics, that's another story.  

[SupaKomputa]

28 minutes ago, Rhaemond said:

Since you're getting a top-of-the-line Ryzen, I'd suggest getting an AIO. Would ID cooling interest you? I know it's not that premium of a brand but it has some RGB AIOs that you might be interested in. Alternatively, NZXT coolers are good and yea you can always get that especially the Kraken.

I disagree. Ryzen can be properly cooled with its stock cooler, let alone an aftermarket.

An AIO won't be better in cooling the cpu vs a top of the line Air Cooler.

The newest Ryzen would be even cooler, the 8 core part is only 65 watts.

[GOTSpectrum]

Stick with whats included with the chip is a fine option, if you really really want to get an aftermarket cooler get something like the bequiet dark rock pro 4 or the noctua NH-D15.

 

No point spending 30USD to get a sidegrade on cooling imo. 

[another_member]

21 minutes ago, Rhaemond said:

On the X52 vs X62 choices, personally, if the difference between them is around only ~10$ or so, I'd just get the X62 because why not.

Ok, thanks.

 

21 minutes ago, Rhaemond said:

Check their AURAFLOW or DASHFLOW AIOs since they're really aesthetically pleasing and very cheap compared to the Kraken.

Ill have a look, thanks.

 

20 minutes ago, fluxdeity said:

Can't beat a solid air cooler where you can replace the fan if it stops spinning but you'd need to replace the whole AIO if it breaks.

NZXT AIOs (possibly also other brands) do have removeable fans, so they are also easily replaceable.

 

9 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

You don't need aftermarket cooling if you're not OCing and pushing the chip.

The thing is, I am planning on OCing.

 

10 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

If you want a cooler for aesthetics, that's another story.  

Also part of the reason tho.

[SavageNeo]

what is your budget?

for 8cores water cooling is better since, i think taht you will overclock a bit.

But when not overclocking noctuas 7 heatpipe air cooler will be fine.

 

[fluxdeity]

1 minute ago, Catchears said:

 

NZXT AIOs (possibly also other brands) do have removeable fans, so they are also easily replaceable.

 

If the pump fails or fittings start leaking you're screwed. I was referring to the fact that a fan is the only thing that can break on an air cooler. If it does you can replace it easily.

 

On an AIO you have the Pump, the fittings leaking, the fans failing, corrosion gunking up the radiator/tubes, etc..

[fluxdeity]

6 minutes ago, Catchears said:

The thing is, I am planning on OCing.

The Ninja 5, Mugen 5 rev b, Noctua u12s, d15, d15s, etc. can all overclock Ryzen chips arguably just as good as an AIO if you account for price, possible points of failure, temps, etc..

[another_member]

1 minute ago, fluxdeity said:

If the pump fails or fittings start leaking you're screwed. I was referring to the fact that a fan is the only thing that can break on an air cooler. If it does you can replace it easily.

 

On an AIO you have the Pump, the fittings leaking, the fans failing, corrosion gunking up the radiator/tubes, etc..

True, but if you can prove that it was a product faliure the warranty covers all damaged parts.

[Rhaemond]

2 minutes ago, Catchears said:

True, but if you can prove that it was a product faliure the warranty covers all damaged parts.

Everyone has a good point here actually, and yes, the stock fan is actually good. I've OCed my Ryzen 3 with the stock fan and at max load I only reach 70 degrees. 

But again, I know you're looking for aesthetics so either go for an RGB air cooler or an AIO. Again, ID Cooling is a good brand although not popular and the NZXT will be more than enough for your criteria

[another_member]

1 hour ago, Rhaemond said:

Everyone has a good point here actually, and yes, the stock fan is actually good. I've OCed my Ryzen 3 with the stock fan and at max load I only reach 70 degrees. 

But again, I know you're looking for aesthetics so either go for an RGB air cooler or an AIO. Again, ID Cooling is a good brand although not popular and the NZXT will be more than enough for your criteria

Thanks

[another_member]

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@fluxdeity

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@SupaKomputa

@Ben Quigley

Thank you everyone for helping me.

[SupaKomputa]

1 hour ago, Rhaemond said:

Everyone has a good point here actually, and yes, the stock fan is actually good. I've OCed my Ryzen 3 with the stock fan and at max load I only reach 70 degrees. 

But again, I know you're looking for aesthetics so either go for an RGB air cooler or an AIO. Again, ID Cooling is a good brand although not popular and the NZXT will be more than enough for your criteria

Yeah the stock cooler is pretty good.

Other than aesthetics, i cannot suggest an AIO.

It would need continous monitoring, can be dead anytime without knowing, unlike fans where you can see it rotating.

From a performance perspective, it gains very little compared with a good air cooler.

[Zberg]

Stock cooler is good, should be even better now that 7nm has improved efficiency, seems like these chips will run on less power and maybe OC at lower temps.

 

In terms of the old "performance CPU's need AIO's, AIO's>air cooling" stuff, more people keep coming out with videos showing this just isn't true.  What most people experience is that if you dont have a sustained workload, water cooling doesn't spike quickly like air so it looks like it is cooling better.  If you have a sustained workload (15 min), the water has time to heat up and tends to level out where a good air cooler does.

 

Linus just did a video with the new noctua beating up a double and triple fan AIO, at a lower cost, and quieter.  Jay did one where a D15 was basically even to his custom liquid loop.  

 

I would maybe do an AIO if the RGB aesthetics angle was most important, as it might give you more options.  I personally like the simplicity of air coolers.  It's just a hunk of metal and a fan.  No maintenance, almost no failure risk.  

 

I have my 9900k OC'd on a noctua, and that chip runs hot (i didnt win the silicon lottery!).  Just didn't want you to think air was not an option if you did end up liking any of the air coolers.

[another_member]

38 minutes ago, Zberg said:

I personally like the simplicity of air coolers.  It's just a hunk of metal and a fan.  No maintenance, almost no failure risk.  

 

I understand. Good point.

 

38 minutes ago, Zberg said:

I would maybe do an AIO if the RGB aesthetics angle was most important, as it might give you more options.

Yep, thats it for me.

 

@Zberg thanks for your long post and your time.

[DoctorNick]

I got 2 NZXT coolers and they perform well. If you get two. Remember to update each one on their own (plugged in one at a time/or disable the usb header). I don't agree with some of the comments above that you only need an air cooler because these chips is going to get hot, even at 105w. 16 cores on a area that small creates alot of heat.