I need some help

[DDR4memorystick]

So, i'm about to buy a new gaming desktop for the first time. I've found this PC on a local pc site, imma translate the specs of the pc.

Could you tell me your opinion about this build?  (NEW PC)

The pricing is 2000 euros. I'd like to play GTA V , Microsoft Flight sim, Forza Horizon 4, Euro truck simulator 2, unturned, CS:GO.

PROCESSOR	Intel® Core™ i9-9900K / 16M Cache / 3.6Ghz / iki 5.0Ghz (9th gen „CoffeeLake“ Family 8th core)
Motherboard	MSI MAG Z390 TOMAHAWK (Intel® Z390 / DDR4 / Intel Turbo USB 3.1 GEN2 / 2x TURBO M.2) “Powered by MSI”
Ram	G.SKILL Sniper X 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3600MHz CL19
SSD	Samsung SSD 970 EVO PLUS NVMe M.2 500GB (V-nand | 3500MB/s Seq. Read | 3300MB/s Seq. Write)
Graphics Card	MSI GeForce RTX 2080 GAMING X TRIO 8GB GDDR6 256-bit
NIC Intergrated	1 x Intel® I219-V Gigabit LAN controller  1 x Intel® I211-AT Gigabit LAN controller
Case	Chieftec Scorpion II | 4xRAINBOW RGB coolers (3 in front, 1 in the back) | transparent glass on the back
Power supply (PSU)	Corsair VS650 | 650 W | 80+ | Low noise
Processor cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED
Audio card	7.1 CH HD Audio / Realtek® ALC892
Ports	2xUSB 2.0 + 3xUSB 3.1 + 2xUSB Type-C in the back, 2xUSB 3.0 in the front, PS/2, RJ-45, audio exits in the front, S/PDIF, HDMI, Display Port
Operating system	none, but will get windows 10 for sure

[DDR4memorystick]

By the way forgot that the price is 1800€

And it's a custom build

[DDR4memorystick]

I need your guys advice should i buy this computer for gaming. 

[Lurick]

That PSU is well over 2x what you need, you could easily overclock the crap out of the system and still not come near maxing out a 600 watt PSU. I would highly suggest chopping the PSU way down and putting the extra cash towards something else.

[NineEyeRon]

15 minutes ago, DDR4memorystick said:

I need your guys advice should i buy this computer for gaming. 

What resolution? What refresh rate?

What games and what target FPS? 

 

We need some context to tell you if it’s worth buying.

[DDR4memorystick]

11 minutes ago, NineEyeRon said:

What resolution? What refresh rate?

What games and what target FPS? 

 

We need some context to tell you if it’s worth buying.

I play Microsoft flight sim 2018, euro truck simulator 2, csgo, unturned,forza horizon 4, asseta corsa, I'd like to play them at max settings

[brob]

1 hour ago, DDR4memorystick said:

I need your guys advice should i buy this computer for gaming. 

Not as is.

 

There is insufficient storage.

 

The psu is not right. You should be looking at a 650W - 750W 80+ Gold psu.

 

The cpu cooler will not offer much, if any overclocking headroom.

 

 

[NineEyeRon]

1 hour ago, DDR4memorystick said:

I play Microsoft flight sim 2018, euro truck simulator 2, csgo, unturned,forza horizon 4, asseta corsa, I'd like to play them at max settings

1080p, 1440 or 4K? 60, 90, 120 or 144hz?

 

Going for 30, 60, 90 or over 100FPS for what games? Just give one or two to give an indication of what experience your aiming for.

 

Other than that PSU is too much, cool is weak for the CPU and your going to need more storage, I suggest a cheap 1TB SSD and a smaller boot M.2 if you need to save some cash.

[BigRom]

Same CPU (9700K) and RTX2080

 

Top of the line AIO cooler for the 9700K

Better motherboard, more SSD storage

3600Mhz CL19 is silly, Intel isn't as sensitive to RAM speed as Ryzen, a good 3200Mhz kit will do

Meshify C for maximum airflow to feed the cooler radiator

Bitfenix's best offering for 750W and fully modular PSU

 

Not sure which country in the EU you're from, these are German prices

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€375.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€139.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€176.95 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€80.89 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€113.52 @ Mindfactory) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING OC WHITE Video Card  (€714.88 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€84.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: BitFenix - Whisper M 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€104.90 @ Caseking) 
Total: €1790.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-18 03:30 CEST+0200

[brob]

4 hours ago, BigRom said:

Same CPU (9700K) and RTX2080

 

Top of the line AIO cooler for the 9700K

Better motherboard, more SSD storage

3600Mhz CL19 is silly, Intel isn't as sensitive to RAM speed as Ryzen, a good 3200Mhz kit will do

Meshify C for maximum airflow to feed the cooler radiator

Bitfenix's best offering for 750W and fully modular PSU

 

Not sure which country in the EU you're from, these are German prices

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€375.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€139.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€176.95 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€80.89 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€113.52 @ Mindfactory) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING OC WHITE Video Card  (€714.88 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€84.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: BitFenix - Whisper M 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€104.90 @ Caseking) 
Total: €1790.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-18 03:30 CEST+0200

 

I think things may be a bit too tight. The Meshify C has a gpu length limit of 315 mm (with front fan mounted). The gpu length is listed as 286.5 mm. The Kraken X62 has to be mounted in the front and the radiator is 30 mm thick.

[BigRom]

6 minutes ago, brob said:

 

I think things may be a bit too tight. The Meshify C has a gpu length limit of 315 mm (with front fan mounted). The gpu length is listed as 286.5 mm. The Kraken X62 has to be mounted in the front and the radiator is 30 mm thick.

Good point, I just checked the Gigabyte website, and the Windforce card is 280.5mm, I guess going for that will fit? Also saves a couple bucks as the Windforce is cheaper anyway. 

[brob]

14 minutes ago, BigRom said:

Good point, I just checked the Gigabyte website, and the Windforce card is 280.5mm, I guess going for that will fit? Also saves a couple bucks as the Windforce is cheaper anyway. 

That should work.

[DDR4memorystick]

9 hours ago, NineEyeRon said:

1080p, 1440 or 4K? 60, 90, 120 or 144hz?

 

Going for 30, 60, 90 or over 100FPS for what games? Just give one or two to give an indication of what experience your aiming for.

 

Other than that PSU is too much, cool is weak for the CPU and your going to need more storage, I suggest a cheap 1TB SSD and a smaller boot M.2 if you need to save some cash.

1080p, 144hz refresh rate, and 100 fps would be amazing, but i can't seem to find 1tb ssds, and on amazon i found  them for 100 $ but i have bad experience buying from online stores so i probably won't be buying a 1tb ssd, what about getting 500 ssd and 1tb hdd? 

[BigRom]

4 minutes ago, DDR4memorystick said:

what about getting 500 ssd and 1tb hdd? 

Perfectly fine, I have the same setup currently on my system. In fact most people run an SSD for the OS and regularly opened apps to keep everything snappy while the HDD handles long-term storage or less frequently used files.

[DDR4memorystick]

25 minutes ago, BigRom said:

Perfectly fine, I have the same setup currently on my system. In fact most people run an SSD for the OS and regularly opened apps to keep everything snappy while the HDD handles long-term storage or less frequently used files.

i've found a new pc, i edited it. Do you think the overall specs are good for this pc and for my games , since im not an IT guy and have been bamboozled once buying an alienware m15x for 2000 euros and not enjoying it.  how do you think could the pc run the games at 100 - 60 fps and could i stream , because i've heard intel i9 is good for streaming?

[BigRom]

3 minutes ago, DDR4memorystick said:

i've found a new pc, i edited it. Do you think the overall specs are good for this pc and for my games , since im not an IT guy and have been bamboozled once buying an alienware m15x for 2000 euros and not enjoying it.  how do you think could the pc run the games at 100 - 60 fps and could i stream , because i've heard intel i9 is good for streaming?

Corsair VS PSU is not very good, I wouldn't want that anywhere near a 9900K unless its just for troubleshooting.

 

Also the 212 Evo is not good enough to cool the 9900K, that chip runs hot as hell. Consider at least a budget AIO or some strong air coolers like a be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 or Noctua D15.

[DDR4memorystick]

1 minute ago, BigRom said:

Corsair VS PSU is not very good, I wouldn't want that anywhere near a 9900K unless its just for troubleshooting.

 

Also the 212 Evo is not good enough to cool the 9900K, that chip runs hot as hell. Consider at least a budget AIO or some strong air coolers like a be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 or Noctua D15.

ill have that in my mind

 

[BigRom]

1 minute ago, DDR4memorystick said:

ill have that in my mind

 

PSU Tier List, not a definitive guide but a good starting point. Since you're getting an obviously pretty high-end system, get something from at least Tier B or better (preferably Tier A obviously)

 

CPU Cooler Tier List, again wouldn't call it an absolute gospel but gives you an idea of what you're paying for and how good it might cool your CPU (a hot one, 9900K needs lots of cooling)

[DDR4memorystick]

Just now, BigRom said:

PSU Tier List, not a definitive guide but a good starting point. Since you're getting an obviously pretty high-end system, get something from at least Tier B or better (preferably Tier A obviously)

 

CPU Cooler Tier List, again wouldn't call it an absolute gospel but gives you an idea of what you're paying for and how good it might cool your CPU (a hot one, 9900K needs lots of cooling)

should i get a branded pc like, lenovo legion or msi infinite series??

[BigRom]

13 minutes ago, DDR4memorystick said:

should i get a branded pc like, lenovo legion or msi infinite series??

In terms of value, I would never recommend a pre-built over building it on your own. 

 

The Lenovo Legion tower doesn't want to tell me the motherboard they use & the fact they list a 500W adapter makes me question how easy it is to make upgrades in the future

The MSI Infinite from their website are listing pretty old hardware (7th gen Intel, GTX1080) for the price.

[brob]

7 hours ago, DDR4memorystick said:

should i get a branded pc like, lenovo legion or msi infinite series??

 

At the low end branded pc often offer better value. But once you get up past ~850 euro one can generally get better quality and / or performance for the same budget.