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Edit: The monitor is a 34UC79G-B (freesync) if you need the information.

 

Hello everyone, I'm intending to buy a new PC because my laptop can't handle my new monitor well -> (The monitor is 2560x1080 144hz) <- kinda important to say because I want to play games at this frequency rate... so with that in mind, I found 2 pre-builts here in Brazil that looks like good options: 

- Option one: 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $149.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Asus - TUF B360M-PLUS GAMING Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $100.98 @ Newegg
Memory ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $89.99 @ Newegg
Storage Corsair - MP300 120 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $29.99 @ Newegg
Storage Kingston - A400 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $49.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card $719.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair - Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case $67.50 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1273.22
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1253.22
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-08 12:38 EDT-0400  

 The price is 7500 BRL ~ 1900 USD

 

- Option two: 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor $209.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Asus - PRIME B450M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  
Memory ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $89.99 @ Newegg
Storage Corsair - MP300 120 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $29.99 @ Newegg
Storage ADATA - SU630 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card GALAX - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB EX (1-click OC) Video Card  
Case NOX - Hummer TX ATX Mid Tower Case  
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $59.89 @ OutletPC
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $469.65
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $449.65
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-08 12:41 EDT-0400  

 

The price of this one is 6100 BRL ~ 1550 USD

 

Would I be able to play at 2560x1080 144hz (or at least get 100) in the highest settings the newer games ?? [the games I play most are Shadows of War... F1 2018... GTA V... Guild wars 2(this one I know that will run smoothly)]...

 

PS.: Please keep in mind that if THE CHEAPER ONE (OPTION 2) can handle it... I would be able to get a new chair + keyboard + mouse with the rest of the money... (and that would be nice too... cuz my chair sucks xD)

 

PS².: If I build it myself instead of buying a pré-built... The price is roughly the same (or even higher)

 

Thx everyone

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If you can, wait until Ryzen 3rd gen is released on July 7th. Their $200 processor might (most likely) outperform both of those.. 

 

I'm personally not waiting for reviews/benchmarks, as long as they're better then 2nd gen, I'm sold.. 

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Neither of the two because both have their problems.

 

18 minutes ago, kodvik said:
CPU Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $149.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Asus - TUF B360M-PLUS GAMING Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $100.98 @ Newegg
Memory ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $89.99 @ Newegg
Storage Corsair - MP300 120 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $29.99 @ Newegg
Storage Kingston - A400 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $49.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card $719.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair - Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case $67.50 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1273.22
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1253.22
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-08 12:38 EDT-0400  

 The price is 7500 BRL ~ 1900 USD

Limited upgradability on the CPU side

 

Cannot use high frequency memory which helps with frame rate stability a lot

 

Weird SSD configuration, should have used just 1 instead

 

Dont know PSU

 

18 minutes ago, kodvik said:
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor $209.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Asus - PRIME B450M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  
Memory ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $89.99 @ Newegg
Storage Corsair - MP300 120 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $29.99 @ Newegg
Storage ADATA - SU630 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card GALAX - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB EX (1-click OC) Video Card  
Case NOX - Hummer TX ATX Mid Tower Case  
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $59.89 @ OutletPC
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $469.65
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $449.65
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-08 12:41 EDT-0400  

 

The price of this one is 6100 BRL ~ 1550 USD

Garbage board that I doubt can even sustain the CPU running at its base clock

 

Weird SSD configuration, should have used just 1 instead

 

GPU wont cut it in the most demanding games (say Assassin's Creed Odyssey), even in Battlefield 5 (very well optimized with RTX off) can only do about 120fps max settings at 1080p 16:9. I expect around 80fps in 2560x1080

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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So, to show that building one would be expensive... making my options kinda limited... this one is if I would build it... choosing the components:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor $279.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Asus - PRIME B450-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard $104.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Team - Delta 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  
Storage Corsair - MP300 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $64.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Video Card $699.99 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case $45.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $59.89 @ OutletPC
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1350.52
  Mail-in rebates -$35.00
  Total $1315.52
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-08 13:31 EDT-0400  

 

This would cost me 9014 BRL ~ 2324 USD so if you guys dnt mind... I'll keep looking for more configs and show it here.

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28 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

If you can, wait until Ryzen 3rd gen is released on July 7th. Their $200 processor might (most likely) outperform both of those.. 

 

I'm personally not waiting for reviews/benchmarks, as long as they're better then 2nd gen, I'm sold.. 

Would be awesome, but knowing how my country works... we will get some stock of the Ryzen 3000 on August of further... for a price that doesn't reflect the international price, and for it to start getting in the pre-built... will take more 3-4 months. (and will be rly expensive)

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The storage of both options is odd. Two ssd and an hdd strikes me as less than optimal for a gaming system. Is there some reason for this configuration?

 

The first system does not specify a psu.

 

The first system has the better gpu. The second has the better cpu. For high fps gaming the first system would be the better choice. Although the lack of a psu would be problematic. ? 

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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1 minute ago, brob said:

The storage of both options is odd. Two ssd and an hdd strikes me as less than optimal for a gaming system. Is there some reason for this configuration?

 

The first system does not specify a psu.

 

The first system has the better gpu. The second has the better cpu. For high fps gaming the first system would be the better choice. Although the lack of a psu would be problematic. ? 

Honestly, I have no idea of why they did it also, would be a lot better with a higher m.2, the reason might be for pricing of higher capacity m.2 here... it scales exponentially almost haha.

 

The first PSU is the same CX650 from corsair, I forgot to put it on the partpicker, my bad.

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Just now, kodvik said:

Honestly, I have no idea of why they did it also, would be a lot better with a higher m.2, the reason might be for pricing of higher capacity m.2 here... it scales exponentially almost haha.

 

The first PSU is the same CX650 from corsair, I forgot to put it on the partpicker, my bad.

 

The storage is an issue. While one can run Windows off a 120GB ssd, one needs to be fairly aggressive in managing the storage.

 

A better solution in my opinion would be a 500GB ssd and the hdd. Another option to consider would be a single 1TB ssd without an hdd. There are several lower-end NVMe drives that might fit your budget.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Storage: HP - EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($119.95 @ Adorama) 
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX6000 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-08 14:29 EDT-0400

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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Well, I think that might be this one... do you guys know that MB? if its good, this one seems rly good:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor $209.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte - B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $84.99 @ Amazon
Memory Team - Delta 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  
Storage Corsair - MP300 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $64.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Video Card $699.99 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master - MasterCase Pro 3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  
Power Supply EVGA - BR 700 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $55.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1185.73
  Mail-in rebates -$10.00
  Total $1175.73
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-08 14:37 EDT-0400  

The cost is a bit higher then the "option 1" in my original post tho, but 7751 BRL ~ 1991 USD

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5 minutes ago, kodvik said:

Well, I think that might be this one... do you guys know that MB? if its good, this one seems rly good:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor $209.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte - B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $84.99 @ Amazon
Memory Team - Delta 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  
Storage Corsair - MP300 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $64.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Video Card $699.99 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master - MasterCase Pro 3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  
Power Supply EVGA - BR 700 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $55.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1185.73
  Mail-in rebates -$10.00
  Total $1175.73
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-08 14:37 EDT-0400  

The cost is a bit higher then the "option 1" in my original post tho, but 7751 BRL ~ 1991 USD

This option is definitely the best so far. If option one wasn't limited to locking that 3000MHz RAM to 2666MHz (because of the B360 board) and the storage wasn't so odd it would be the better choice, but this one with a decent OC is going to do better. Note that the BR power supply is pretty mediocre, but this is a pre-built so I guess you'll get warranty on the whole system.

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It's not a bad motherboard. Will not allow for overclocking the 2700 according to https://www.kitguru.net/components/motherboard/ryan-martin/gigabyte-b450-aorus-pro-motherboard-review/12/..

 

I don't like the psu.

 

The MP300 M.2 drive is SATA III, not NVMe. So it runs at the same speed as a 2.5 ssd. 

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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7 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

This option is definitely the best so far. If option one wasn't limited to locking that 3000MHz RAM to 2666MHz (because of the B360 board) and the storage wasn't so odd it would be the better choice, but this one with a decent OC is going to do better. Note that the BR power supply is pretty mediocre, but this is a pre-built so I guess you'll get warranty on the whole system.

Found another option that looks better then:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $149.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Asus - TUF H310M-PLUS GAMING Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $79.99 @ Newegg
Memory Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $68.98 @ Newegg
Storage Kingston - A400 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $49.99 @ Amazon
Storage Toshiba - 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card $699.99 @ Amazon
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox E300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case $36.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $83.88 @ OutletPC
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1189.71
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1169.71
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-08 14:54 EDT-0400  

 

Pricing : 7340 BRL ~  1883 USD

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1 minute ago, kodvik said:

Found another option that looks better then:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $149.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Asus - TUF H310M-PLUS GAMING Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $79.99 @ Newegg
Memory Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $68.98 @ Newegg
Storage Kingston - A400 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $49.99 @ Amazon
Storage Toshiba - 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card $699.99 @ Amazon
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox E300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case $36.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $83.88 @ OutletPC
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1189.71
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1169.71
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-08 14:54 EDT-0400  

 

Pricing : 7340 BRL ~  1883 USD

Oy, this one is even worse on the motherboard front. You'll still get slightly higher performance with the 2700 build. 

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I'm starting to heavily consider this one:

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor $279.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte - GA-AX370-Gaming K5 ATX AM4 Motherboard $169.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $78.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital - Blue SN500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $64.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Asus - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card $479.99 @ Newegg
Case NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case $76.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $62.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1308.61
  Mail-in rebates -$50.00
  Total $1258.61
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-08 15:11 EDT-0400  

Its 6752 BRL ~ 1740 USD; I understand that I will not be able to play it in 144hz, but since the monitor has freesync. It might be a good option, right ?

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3 minutes ago, kodvik said:

I'm starting to heavily consider this one:

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor $279.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte - GA-AX370-Gaming K5 ATX AM4 Motherboard $169.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $78.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital - Blue SN500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $64.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Asus - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card $479.99 @ Newegg
Case NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case $76.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $62.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1308.61
  Mail-in rebates -$50.00
  Total $1258.61
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-08 15:11 EDT-0400  

Its 6752 BRL ~ 1740 USD; I understand that I will not be able to play it in 144hz, but since the monitor has freesync. It might be a good option, right ?

This is decent for sure. Performance wise, I think you'll still do better on the 2700/2080 build, but this one is also cheaper. So your call!

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