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So, I'm trying to spec out a build for friend of mine who's a streamer. She previously only streamed on XBox and this is going to be her first real gaming PC. budget is ~750 british pounds including monitor - actually more like 650 - less is better. The specs below were as low as I was willing to go without compromising streaming/gaming performance.

She mostly plays COD Black Ops 3 & 4. WIFI is a must have cause she has no possibility to connect via ethernet.

I chose the 1660 so that she can make use of Nvidia NVENC to get the best streaming performance possible.

For now I reduced the amount of memory from 16 to 8GB - but kept it at 3000Mhz to not compromize Ryzens CPU Performance with the option to upgrade later. I'm not sure, tho, if that's a good compromise or if should rather go for 16GB of 2400MHZ memory from the start.

Also, would it be okay to get her down to an r5 1600 or even lower like an R3 2200g?

Last, but not least - she already has an Avermedia LGX Live Gamer Extreme. Will that improve performance for streaming so that we could go lower on some of the PC Specs?

Any help to shave off some cash from the current build I came up with or otherwise improve it would be appreciated. Thanks!

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CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor £132.98 @ Aria PC
Motherboard MSI - B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard £109.98 @ Amazon UK
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £46.38 @ Aria PC
Storage Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £60.99 @ CCL Computers
Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card £209.99 @ Box Limited
Case BitFenix - Neos Black ATX Mid Tower Case £32.72 @ Aria PC
Power Supply SeaSonic - S12II 520 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £51.06 @ CCL Computers
Case Fan ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ AWD-IT
Monitor BenQ - GL2460HM 24.0" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor £108.29 @ CCL Computers
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £756.88
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I think you've cheaped a little too much, really. The S12II is a very un-good PSU, especially the lower wattage versions. I don't see any places to cut down either than buying used, or using first generation Ryzen parts.

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Just now, SenpaiKaplan said:

I think you've cheaped a little too much, really. The S12II is a very un-good PSU, especially the lower wattage versions. I don't see any places to cut down either than buying used, or using first generation Ryzen parts.

That build is already on the very edge. No overclocking, btw. So, if the PSU is reliable enough to not blow up the PC, it'll be good enough.

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£130.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£61.96 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£72.20 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial - BX500 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£49.42 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£53.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card  (£259.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£39.99 @ PC World) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 11 CM 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£74.34 @ Aria PC) 
Total: £741.69
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Much vetter streaming build for the money. CPU encoding or encoding using VCE. 

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CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£130.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£61.96 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£72.20 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial - BX500 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£49.42 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£53.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card  (£259.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£39.99 @ PC World) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 11 CM 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£74.34 @ Aria PC) 
Total: £741.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Much vetter streaming build for the money. CPU encoding or encoding using VCE. 

No Wi-Fi on that Mobo, tho, so that's not gonna work.

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5 minutes ago, Hans Power said:

No Wi-Fi on that Mobo, tho, so that's not gonna work.

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CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£130.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£61.96 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£72.20 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£24.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£53.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card  (£259.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£39.99 @ PC World) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 11 CM 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£74.34 @ Aria PC) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC56 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  (£35.93 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £753.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Update. Now you get wifi. 

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Okay, I gonna keep the a Wi-Fi card in mind as an option. What about that streaming capture device (Avermedia LGX Live Gamer Extreme) she already has? Will that make a difference?

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11 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£130.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£61.96 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£72.20 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£24.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£53.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card  (£259.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£39.99 @ PC World) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 11 CM 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£74.34 @ Aria PC) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC56 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  (£35.93 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £753.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Update. Now you get wifi. 

You also forgot the monitor - your build is unfortunately too expensive.

CPU: AMD R7 5800x3D | Mainboard: MSI MAG B550m Mortar Wifi | RAM: 32GB Crucial Ballistix 3200 Rev E | GPU: XFX Swift RX 9070 XT | Case: Xigmatek Aquila | PSU: Corsair RM650i | SSDs: 2x TS2TMTE220S NVME SSDs 2TB | Samsung 840 EVO 120GB | Crucial BX300 120GB | HDDs: 2x Seagate Barracuda 4TB | CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 | Casefans: 2x Arctic P12 aRGB 120mm (Intake), Bequiet Pure Wings 2 140mm (Exhaust) | OS: Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit

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5 minutes ago, Hans Power said:

You also forgot the monitor - your build is unfortunately too expensive.

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CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£130.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£61.96 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Crucial - BX500 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£49.42 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card  (£259.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£39.99 @ PC World) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 11 CM 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£74.34 @ Aria PC) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC56 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  (£35.93 @ Ebuyer) 
Monitor: LG - 24MK400H-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor  (£96.69 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £748.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Its a bit late at night, so i was a tad sluggish

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CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£130.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£61.96 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Crucial - BX500 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£49.42 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card  (£259.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£39.99 @ PC World) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 11 CM 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£74.34 @ Aria PC) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC56 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  (£35.93 @ Ebuyer) 
Monitor: LG - 24MK400H-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor  (£96.69 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £748.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Its a bit late at night, so i was a tad sluggish

I tend to agree since we're now missing RAM, lol!

Edit: Also, that BX500 doesn't come with a DRAM Cache so it's not gonna be a great experience. That's why I went with the MX500

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8 minutes ago, Hans Power said:

I tend to agree since we're now missing RAM, lol!

Edit: Also, that BX500 doesn't come with a DRAM Cache so it's not gonna be a great experience. That's why I went with the MX500

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£130.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£61.96 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£44.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Patriot - Burst 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£46.49 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card  (£259.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£39.99 @ PC World) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - System Power 9 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£53.40 @ More Computers) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB1733D-I PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  (£24.07 @ CCL Computers) 
Monitor: LG - 24MK400H-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor  (£96.69 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £757.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Yeah, im tired. 

 

Cacheless SSD will provide a good enough experience. 

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£130.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£61.96 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£44.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Patriot - Burst 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£46.49 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card  (£259.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£39.99 @ PC World) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - System Power 9 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£53.40 @ More Computers) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB1733D-I PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  (£24.07 @ CCL Computers) 
Monitor: LG - 24MK400H-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor  (£96.69 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £757.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-16 23:47 BST+0100

 

Yeah, im tired. 

 

Cacheless SSD will provide a good enough experience. 

Okay, thanks, you definately gave me a few ideas to build upon!

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So, here's the latest build to go as low as possible without skimping out on quality components. This setup is meant to do the Encoding on the CPU instead of the GPU as originally planned. Hopefully that RX 580 will be good enough for 1080p60 in most titles: 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor £130.00 @ AWD-IT
Motherboard MSI - B450M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £79.99 @ Box Limited
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £46.38 @ Aria PC
Storage Western Digital - Blue 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £56.99 @ Box Limited
Video Card MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card £164.99 @ Amazon UK
Case Aerocool - QS-240 MicroATX Mid Tower Case £31.99 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply SeaSonic - S12II 520 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £51.06 @ CCL Computers
Wireless Network Adapter Gigabyte - GC-WB1733D-I PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter £24.07 @ CCL Computers
Case Fan ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ AWD-IT
Monitor LG - 24MK400H-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor £96.69 @ CCL Computers
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £686.65
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CPU: AMD R7 5800x3D | Mainboard: MSI MAG B550m Mortar Wifi | RAM: 32GB Crucial Ballistix 3200 Rev E | GPU: XFX Swift RX 9070 XT | Case: Xigmatek Aquila | PSU: Corsair RM650i | SSDs: 2x TS2TMTE220S NVME SSDs 2TB | Samsung 840 EVO 120GB | Crucial BX300 120GB | HDDs: 2x Seagate Barracuda 4TB | CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 | Casefans: 2x Arctic P12 aRGB 120mm (Intake), Bequiet Pure Wings 2 140mm (Exhaust) | OS: Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit

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Honestly most office desktops come with 1080p 60hz monitors included nowadays.

Even in fairly rural areas, you should be able to find people looking to get rid of them for 30ish pounds. 

I wouldn't waste 100 in budget toward a 1080p 60hz monitor at this point.

 

What is stopping this person from utilizing ethernet? It's so much more stable for realtime streaming anyway!

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So, important question: Are 8GB RAM enough for streaming or should I definately go up to 16GB of RAM for 1080p60 streams?

CPU: AMD R7 5800x3D | Mainboard: MSI MAG B550m Mortar Wifi | RAM: 32GB Crucial Ballistix 3200 Rev E | GPU: XFX Swift RX 9070 XT | Case: Xigmatek Aquila | PSU: Corsair RM650i | SSDs: 2x TS2TMTE220S NVME SSDs 2TB | Samsung 840 EVO 120GB | Crucial BX300 120GB | HDDs: 2x Seagate Barracuda 4TB | CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 | Casefans: 2x Arctic P12 aRGB 120mm (Intake), Bequiet Pure Wings 2 140mm (Exhaust) | OS: Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit

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12 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

Honestly most office desktops come with 1080p 60hz monitors included nowadays.

Even in fairly rural areas, you should be able to find people looking to get rid of them for 30ish pounds. 

I wouldn't waste 100 in budget toward a 1080p 60hz monitor at this point.

 

What is stopping this person from utilizing ethernet? It's so much more stable for realtime streaming anyway!

The layout of her home from what she told me. She just doesn't have a chance to place a cable from her office to the router location. Not sure if she could work with D-Lan adapters - I live in germany and I have no clue if that stuff works with UK electricity outlets. And if it would work, I'm not sure how well/up to date the electricity is layed out in her building.

CPU: AMD R7 5800x3D | Mainboard: MSI MAG B550m Mortar Wifi | RAM: 32GB Crucial Ballistix 3200 Rev E | GPU: XFX Swift RX 9070 XT | Case: Xigmatek Aquila | PSU: Corsair RM650i | SSDs: 2x TS2TMTE220S NVME SSDs 2TB | Samsung 840 EVO 120GB | Crucial BX300 120GB | HDDs: 2x Seagate Barracuda 4TB | CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 | Casefans: 2x Arctic P12 aRGB 120mm (Intake), Bequiet Pure Wings 2 140mm (Exhaust) | OS: Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit

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1 hour ago, Hans Power said:

So, important question: Are 8GB RAM enough for streaming or should I definately go up to 16GB of RAM for 1080p60 streams?

Well you stated that you wanted to use the NVidia shadowplay, right?

I'm unsure if that 8GB is going to directly effect the shadowplay. If it effects the gameplay itself, there would be noticeable loss of course..

 

Really if you can squeeze the 16GB in, it's a good idea.

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Here's my thought:

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CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor £130.00 @ AWD-IT
Motherboard ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £61.96 @ CCL Computers
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £72.20 @ Amazon UK
Storage Crucial - BX500 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £17.49 @ Amazon UK
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £49.98 @ Aria PC
Video Card Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card £259.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case Thermaltake - Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case £35.47 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply be quiet! - System Power 9 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £53.40 @ More Computers
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link - TL-WN881ND PCIe x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter £11.99 @ Amazon UK
Monitor AOC - E2270SWHN 21.5" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor £70.30 @ Amazon UK
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £762.58
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The Ryzen 7 lineup is plenty of CPU. 8c/16t is plenty to operate a normal streaming program while playing a game.

No Shadowplay necessary. That said, the Vega 56 is a significant step up in GPU power from the 1660. (RX 580 8GB < GTX 1660 ~ RX 590 < 1660 Ti < Vega 56 ~ RTX 2060.)

Lose less gaming performance while streaming on the CPU by putting in a beefier GPU. 

No reason to sacrifice 8GB RAM. It's plenty cheap out there.

 

Savings on a B350 Pro 4, since this is firs gen Ryzen, there won't be the chances of BIOS issues.

 

A 500GB SSD is a nice feature for any computer, but for now a 120GB boot drive is enough for the OS and one large game. The 2TB HDD will provide cushion for any recording files and programs she needs for the stream. (And... Anything else.)

 

Solid Case (grab a 120mm cheapo fan for front intake. Sorry, forgot that.) And a decent enough PSU for the job.

I included a cheapo wifi adapter. If there are specific needs to UK protocols, do a little digging before buying anything. If it were me, I'd literally run a 100ft Ethernet along the corners of my walls to hard wire this thing in, but to each their own.

 

As I stated above, 1080p 60hz monitors are a dime a dozen. You could probably find one free if a university is letting out. I see tons of US listings for ~$30. Find one that works and use it until she's ready to make a real monitor upgrade. (144hz, 1440p etc in the future.) I just placed the cheapest one in the build to show even a 70 pound spend can fit this solid GPU. 

 

Breakdown:

  • Don't overspend on an SSD too small to hold all her files anyway. She can grab one later on a good sale.
  • Don't overspend on a monitor that is inherently shitty. Just grab something used that works.
  • Solid CPU/GPU > Mediocre GPU for Shadowplay streaming.
  • DON'T GET A SUPER CHEAPO PSU! EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT OVERCLOCKING!
  • Don't overspend on a wifi board. They are pricey! Grab a dongle!

(lol now reading back, this is almost exactly @GoldenLag's build...)

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8 hours ago, Hans Power said:

Video Card MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card £164.99 @ Amazon UK

You skimped here on a bad quality cooler

8 hours ago, Hans Power said:

Power Supply SeaSonic - S12II 520 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £51.06 @ CCL Computers

This is not a good PSU, you do not want this PSU at all.

 

The biggest issue is the PSU, its not good at all

 

I fell asleep so couldnt be here earlier.

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4 hours ago, trevb0t said:

Here's my thought:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor £130.00 @ AWD-IT
Motherboard ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £61.96 @ CCL Computers
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £72.20 @ Amazon UK
Storage Crucial - BX500 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £17.49 @ Amazon UK
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £49.98 @ Aria PC
Video Card Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card £259.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case Thermaltake - Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case £35.47 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply be quiet! - System Power 9 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £53.40 @ More Computers
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link - TL-WN881ND PCIe x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter £11.99 @ Amazon UK
Monitor AOC - E2270SWHN 21.5" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor £70.30 @ Amazon UK
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £762.58
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-17 04:30 BST+0100  

 

The Ryzen 7 lineup is plenty of CPU. 8c/16t is plenty to operate a normal streaming program while playing a game.

No Shadowplay necessary. That said, the Vega 56 is a significant step up in GPU power from the 1660. (RX 580 8GB < GTX 1660 ~ RX 590 < 1660 Ti < Vega 56 ~ RTX 2060.)

Lose less gaming performance while streaming on the CPU by putting in a beefier GPU. 

No reason to sacrifice 8GB RAM. It's plenty cheap out there.

 

Savings on a B350 Pro 4, since this is firs gen Ryzen, there won't be the chances of BIOS issues.

 

A 500GB SSD is a nice feature for any computer, but for now a 120GB boot drive is enough for the OS and one large game. The 2TB HDD will provide cushion for any recording files and programs she needs for the stream. (And... Anything else.)

 

Solid Case (grab a 120mm cheapo fan for front intake. Sorry, forgot that.) And a decent enough PSU for the job.

I included a cheapo wifi adapter. If there are specific needs to UK protocols, do a little digging before buying anything. If it were me, I'd literally run a 100ft Ethernet along the corners of my walls to hard wire this thing in, but to each their own.

 

As I stated above, 1080p 60hz monitors are a dime a dozen. You could probably find one free if a university is letting out. I see tons of US listings for ~$30. Find one that works and use it until she's ready to make a real monitor upgrade. (144hz, 1440p etc in the future.) I just placed the cheapest one in the build to show even a 70 pound spend can fit this solid GPU. 

 

Breakdown:

  • Don't overspend on an SSD too small to hold all her files anyway. She can grab one later on a good sale.
  • Don't overspend on a monitor that is inherently shitty. Just grab something used that works.
  • Solid CPU/GPU > Mediocre GPU for Shadowplay streaming.
  • DON'T GET A SUPER CHEAPO PSU! EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT OVERCLOCKING!
  • Don't overspend on a wifi board. They are pricey! Grab a dongle!

(lol now reading back, this is almost exactly @GoldenLag's build...)

Okay, you convinced me about the PSU - I will change it. However, I'm not super stoked on that motherboard. I want to make sure she has a 100% stable and hassle free experience and putting an R7 into a C-Tier mainboard together with 3000Mhz Memory sounds like calling for trouble to me. Do you guys have personal experiences with this setup?

CPU: AMD R7 5800x3D | Mainboard: MSI MAG B550m Mortar Wifi | RAM: 32GB Crucial Ballistix 3200 Rev E | GPU: XFX Swift RX 9070 XT | Case: Xigmatek Aquila | PSU: Corsair RM650i | SSDs: 2x TS2TMTE220S NVME SSDs 2TB | Samsung 840 EVO 120GB | Crucial BX300 120GB | HDDs: 2x Seagate Barracuda 4TB | CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 | Casefans: 2x Arctic P12 aRGB 120mm (Intake), Bequiet Pure Wings 2 140mm (Exhaust) | OS: Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit

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4 hours ago, Hans Power said:

Okay, you convinced me about the PSU - I will change it. However, I'm not super stoked on that motherboard. I want to make sure she has a 100% stable and hassle free experience and putting an R7 into a C-Tier mainboard together with 3000Mhz Memory sounds like calling for trouble to me. Do you guys have personal experiences with this setup?

The Pro 4 has solid VRMs for power delivery. You certainly can upgrade, but this one is solid enough.

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another option:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£130.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£80.46 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£71.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Patriot - Burst 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£46.49 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB Air Boost 8G OC Video Card  (£234.99 @ Box Limited) 
Case: Xigmatek - Frontliner ATX Mid Tower Case  (£35.42 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£45.48 @ Amazon UK) 
Wireless Network Adapter: D-Link - DWA-582 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  (£19.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Monitor: AOC - G2260VWQ6 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor  (£84.86 @ Box Limited) 
Total: £749.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-17 15:13 BST+0100

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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