Time to upgrade my 3 year old PC?

[FTWEd]

Hi,

 

My current system is as following:

•  i7 6700k
• Asrock z170 extreme4 board
• MSI GTX 1070 Gaming 8G 
• 16GB DDR4 
•  660W PSU Seasonic
• Monitor(s)/TV: 2560x1440p DELL 144Hz G-Sync, Standard 4K-TV and a not-for-gaming-used 27" 1080p Monitor

 

I have my system since mid 2016 and it was fine but i noticed some not so smooth gameplay/bit of stuttering in newer games recently so i messed around with some graphics setting and noticed i get SOO much smoother gameplay with low graphics settings so i checked my FPS at my normal settings: In F1 2018 for example i only get 40-45 FPS (4K TV), in BFV in 1440p i get basically the same. In BFV the CPU also seems on the limit (75%+ usage) on Multiplayer matches. Difficult to describe because 40-50 FPS does not look so bad but when it turn down the graphics settings and  get like 90-120FPS it is just something completely different. More noticable in the racing games than in the Shooter i must admit. 

 

I am playing several games, mostly older, but also newer games. The newer games become/became a problem recently, especially the ones on the 4K TV which are: F1 2018 (in June = F1 2019, which seems to be a bit more demanding) and several other racing games (Assetto Corsa, iRacing, etc. etc.)

 

On my 27" DELL i play all other games like BFV, BF4 and a ton of other games that are out right now. 

 

So i am asking myself: Time to upgrade? 

It would basically be a complete new system because of Intels strict policy regarding platform compatibility. 

What would you suggest in terms of upgrading? Which parts? Upgrade or wait?

 

[kelvinhall05]

I personally wouldn't upgrade as it would mostly be a waste of money. If you really want to, upgrade to Ryzen or 8th gen Intel.

[191x7]

If you really feel the need to upgrade, I'd recommend an RTX 2080 graphics card. Or a GTX 1080 Ti, possibly a Radeon VII.

[Sorenson]

5 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

I personally wouldn't upgrade as it would mostly be a waste of money. If you really want to, upgrade to Ryzen or 8th gen Intel.

Ryzen wouldn’t give him a better gaming experience than a 6700k would. 

 

Only thing ink you should do is try to overclock the cpu a bit and maybe get a stronger gpu. For 1440p 60 I would go with a 2070 and for 4K 60~ I would go with a 2080. 

[FTWEd]

9 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

I personally wouldn't upgrade as it would mostly be a waste of money. If you really want to, upgrade to Ryzen or 8th gen Intel.

 

GPU: You think? How much faster is a RTX 2080 (Ti) compared to my GTX 1070 MSI Gaming?

CPU: No idea where my 6700k stands. 

 

1 minute ago, Sorenson said:

Ryzen wouldn’t give him a better gaming experience than a 6700k would. 

 

Only thing ink you should do is try to overclock the cpu a bit and maybe get a stronger gpu. For 1440p 60 I would go with a 2070 and for 4K 60~ I would go with a 2080. 

 

I thought so too that i could overclock my CPU a bit. Int erms of GPU: You would not recommend going straight for the TI version? Have you got any performance charts where older and newest cards are compared?

 

3 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

If you really feel the need to upgrade, I'd recommend an RTX 2080 graphics card. Or a GTX 1080 Ti, possibly a Radeon VII.

Same question as for @Sorenson: Any comparison charts?

Thank you for all the replies so fast.

[191x7]

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, FTWEd said:

Same question as for @Sorenson: Any comparison charts?

 

GTX 1070 ~= 1660Ti ~= Vega 56 < 1070ti ~= RTX 2060 < 1080 ~= Vega 64 ~= RTX 2070 < 1080Ti ~= Radeon VII ~= RTX 2080 < RTX 2080Ti

That's a rough estimate.

[Fasauceome]

Your CPU can handle more GPU horsepower without bottlenecking, you should consider an upgrade.

 

But, 

45 minutes ago, FTWEd said:

660W PSU Seasonic

Could you be more specific?

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Seeing as you seem to be struggling more as the resolution goes up, the GPU is clearly the limiting factor.  So that would be the first thing I'd upgrade. 

 

Going from a 1070 to a 1080Ti I noticed that my framerate (at 1440p) went up by around 75-80% in most games. 

Judging by the benchmark scores I see online, it looks like the 2080 is only marginally slower than the 1080Ti.  So those 2 would be one huge step up from your current 1070.  Then there's a reasonable step up to the 2080Ti.

 

In terms of raytracing support, it's just too early to bet on that.  By the time we see games that properly make use of it, the 2080 or 2080Ti will most likely be outdated anyway.  So if you can get hold of a 1080Ti at a lower price as a 2080 non-Ti, you may want to seriously consider getting the older card. 

 

Whether or not the extra performance of the 2080Ti justifies the extra cost is something only you can decide.  I honestly don't know what speed your 6700K needs to run at in order to keep up with the 2080Ti in your preferred games (yes, that also can make a difference) at 4K. 

 

[FTWEd]

41 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

 

GTX 1070 ~= 1660Ti ~= Vega 56 < 1070ti ~= RTX 2060 < 1080 ~= Vega 64 ~= RTX 2070 < 1080Ti ~= Radeon VII ~= RTX 2080 < RTX 2080Ti

That's a rough estimate.

Thank you

 

25 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Your CPU can handle more GPU horsepower without bottlenecking, you should consider an upgrade.

 

But, 

Could you be more specific?

I see, so the GPU is the limiting factor. I think so too. 

The PSU is a Seasonic X-Series 660W semi passive

24 minutes ago, Captain Chaos said:

Seeing as you seem to be struggling more as the resolution goes up, the GPU is clearly the limiting factor.  So that would be the first thing I'd upgrade. 

 

Going from a 1070 to a 1080Ti I noticed that my framerate (at 1440p) went up by around 75-80% in most games. 

Judging by the benchmark scores I see online, it looks like the 2080 is only marginally slower than the 1080Ti.  So those 2 would be one huge step up from your current 1070.  Then there's a reasonable step up to the 2080Ti.

 

In terms of raytracing support, it's just too early to bet on that.  By the time we see games that properly make use of it, the 2080 or 2080Ti will most likely be outdated anyway.  So if you can get hold of a 1080Ti at a lower price as a 2080 non-Ti, you may want to seriously consider getting the older card. 

 

Whether or not the extra performance of the 2080Ti justifies the extra cost is something only you can decide.  I honestly don't know what speed your 6700K needs to run at in order to keep up with the 2080Ti in your preferred games (yes, that also can make a difference) at 4K. 

 

I think id go for the 2080 because it just is the newer version and i keep my cards nowadays at least 2-3 years. 

But 75-80 % is a very good increase in any case i think!

 

@ All: 

 

Any suggestions regarding WHICH GTX 2080 (Ti)? MSI/ASUS and so on? I plan on overclocking it if it is beneficial. 

[191x7]

Pretty much any that's not "reference".  The 2080Ti would be bottlenecked by your CPU and you wouldn't notice a huge increase over 2080.