<$70 low profile GPU (210w OEM power supply)?

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2 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Your welcome! Though do note there is normally a cooler that would get in the way of the slot nearest to the CPU so may need to place the card in the farthest slot from the CPU (I would any way as putting the card there obstructs the x1 slot which is ideal for a network card or something), which I believe is a PCI-E 2.0x16 rather than PCI-E 3.0x16, but even if that is the case, this should prove to be no issue as only cards of GTX1080/RTX2070 speeds or faster are capable of overloading a 2.0x16 slot.

Will do, do you think I got a good deal for $330? I mean assuming it doesn't crap out.

[LukeSavenije]

1 hour ago, back said:

https://outervision.com/b/wHXwrx 

Idk if these results are acccurate (estimate seems a little high as even without any GPU it goes over 210)

not even close

 

from all calculators (general rule, don't trust them) is this one of the biggest overestimaters

[Wh0_Am_1]

1 minute ago, back said:

Will do, do you think I got a good deal for $330? I mean assuming it doesn't crap out.

Yes I think that it is a pretty good deal, although generally speaking I would have personally budgeted more money for things like GPUs, RAM, Wi-Fi, SSD, and less on the CPU and MOBO. (things learned the hard way) At least with an SFF form factor corporate desktop that I intend to use for gaming, as at this moment there are no LP GPUs fully capable of taking advantage of the 6700's power. Thereby the only reason I would buy a setup like this is if I were planning on using this computer for web browsing, photo editing, video editing, and 3D modeling with a server for rendering, along with light gaming on the side, otherwise I would aim for a sff desktop with a 3570 or 4570, as that is where the sweet spot is right now, esp with the likely chance of the 1650 lp coming out in the near future.

[Stefan Payne]

1 hour ago, back said:

I have recently bought an SFF beater pc (Lenovo m700) for $330. It has an i7-6700 and 16gb  but no GPU is included 

Full spec sheet of the platform is here: https://www02.cp-static.com/objects/pdf/3/3f3/1349820275_1_pcs-lenovo-m700-10gt0057mh.pdf

I would like to plug in a GPU for gta5, apex, etc at 1080p.
60±10fps preferred but optional, high settings optional as long as I wouldn't have to set graphics to potato.  

You can forget that.

Low Profile GPUs are really expensive.

The best I've found so far is 1050ti with 4GiB for 160€ or so.

 

1 hour ago, back said:

The PSU outputs a pathetic 210w and I would consider replacing it, to my knowledge any TFX (SFF) power supply fits in this computer. I wouldn't want to spend more than $40 on the PSU since this is a bargain build.
Any suggestions/links for good TFX PSU would be appreciated as well. 

210W is fine. 

But with OEM Systems in that area, they are usually totally proprietary. Meaning: no 5V, no 3,3V and if you're really lucky, no 5V Standby either.

That means that replacing the PSU is out of the question.

 

What would (maybe) work is a new Case.

But you have to make an adaptor bracket for TFX to ATX yourself and probably use a Case with PSU on top...

1 hour ago, back said:

- Budget doesn't allow me to spend more than $70-$80 on the GPU, it can be new or used (so long as it's not  one of those mining minefield models that are commonly abused) 

• gt 1030? (I feel at current prices [$70-109] it is not a good value, if it was $60 I would buy in a heartbeat)
• rx 550 low profile? (safest option IMO)
• Used firepro or other workstation cards? (On paper cards S7000 4GB which you can find for $70 sound like a great deal, lot of power and versatile for both gaming and video/CAD work which I do. Would these push the PSU too hard?)

You already looked into it, nice.

That's really the best you can do. There are no better options.

 

1 hour ago, fasauceome said:

A 1050 almost fits in the budget

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-GeForce-GTX-1050-2G-GDDR5-GPU-Graphics-Card/143241632609?hash=item2159dddb61%3Ag%3AS8YAAOSwzsNc0Gq5&LH_ItemCondition=3000&LH_BIN=1

but not inside the case.

That's a normal size Card.

He needs a half height aka Low Profile one.

 

42 minutes ago, back said:

I went ahead and bought this one, didn't even get the pc shipped yet so I don't even know for certain if it will fit. I'm so eccentric. Thanks everyone

It won't fit.

You bought the totally wrong System for gaming.

 

 Making it a game PC cost as much as a good gaming PC.

You need a new Case ~40-100€

PSU: ~40-100€

PSU Adapter: ~20€

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, Stefan Payne said:

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Am I not seeing right? This is a low profile card, from what I believe...

[Stefan Payne]

10 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

otherwise I would aim for a sff desktop with a 3570 or 4570,

Yes, I agree.

I seen an IBM PC with HDD, i5-4570 and SFF Case for 120€ + Shipping.

That makes more sense than to waste 330€ for a 6700.

10 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

as that is where the sweet spot is right now, esp with the likely chance of the 1650 lp coming out in the near future.

I doubt that there will be (many) 1650lp as the small form factor gaming market is taken over by ITX.

[Stefan Payne]

1 minute ago, LienusLateTips said:

Am I not seeing right? This is a low profile card, from what I believe...

That's only half of it.

You also need the Low Profile I/O Bracket as well.

 

Here an example of how the Low Profile Bracket should look like (example is a USB Card).

https://en.intos.de/product-overview/io-cards-cardreader/pcie/5893/inline-usb-3.0-2-port-host-controller-pcie-with-full-size-low-profile-bracket

[Wh0_Am_1]

1 minute ago, Stefan Payne said:

 

I doubt that there will be (many) 1650lp as the small form factor gaming market is taken over by ITX.

Maybe, but then again there are still many half height computers on the market, so I would not rule it out just yet.

[Wh0_Am_1]

12 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

Am I not seeing right? This is a low profile card, from what I believe...

Yes it is a low profile card, but take a gander at that bracket, you need a low profile bracket if it does not come with one, if it does not list it, if you can contact the seller and ask if it comes with the low profile bracket, otherwise you will need to purchase one.

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22 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Yes it is a low profile card, but take a gander at that bracket, you need a low profile bracket if it does not come with one, if it does not list it, if you can contact the seller and ask if it comes with the low profile bracket, otherwise you will need to purchase one.

This can’t fit as-is with some dremel magic?

[Wh0_Am_1]

Just now, back said:

This can’t fit as-is with some dremel magic?

Technically. Though you may at least want to put some duct tape on the metal so you do not cut yourself.

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33 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

You can forget that.

Low Profile GPUs are really expensive.

The best I've found so far is 1050ti with 4GiB for 160€ or so.

 

210W is fine. 

But with OEM Systems in that area, they are usually totally proprietary. Meaning: no 5V, no 3,3V and if you're really lucky, no 5V Standby either.

That means that replacing the PSU is out of the question.

 

What would (maybe) work is a new Case.

But you have to make an adaptor bracket for TFX to ATX yourself and probably use a Case with PSU on top...

You already looked into it, nice.

That's really the best you can do. There are no better options.

 

but not inside the case.

That's a normal size Card.

He needs a half height aka Low Profile one.

 

It won't fit.

You bought the totally wrong System for gaming.

 

 Making it a game PC cost as much as a good gaming PC.

You need a new Case ~40-100€

PSU: ~40-100€

PSU Adapter: ~20€

I bought the computer for non-gaming purposes (video editing, music production, Blender) but the GPU I wish to add is for gaming. Really did want to add a new GPU to assist with both so i’ll figure it out

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Works great so far, thanks everyone for the advice especially regarding anticipating issues with the bracket. This is a Scrooge build and I didn’t really want to spend $10 and wait for shipping from UK so I did some delicate hacksaw work on the original bracket Worst case scenario I will just buy the LP bracket later.

 

Right now I’m running furmark burn-in test. I’m an hour in at core 100% fan 66%. No issues with PSU failing so far but GPU temps are slightly above my gusto at 77c but I don’t think that’s necessarily  tragic either for a small cramped case. 

 

To my knowledge furmark does not really work the CPU so next I will do something that stresses both the GPU and CPU just in case the two working together full blast are what tips the PSU over the edge. Does anyone have a suggestion for a benchmark that really just pushes everything?

 

Once again thanks a lot guys. I will post on the builds section with all the details and full completed benchmarks and link here.

[lucho710]

Hola que tal?, la verdad soy latino y no se que hago en un sitio asi jajaja.

bueno espero que me contesten por favor, tengo la misma pc que el caballero que hizo este post y podria actualizar la fuente de poder? existe alguna fuente para esa misma placa base? soy un aficionada de la tecnologia y la verdad es que me gusta aprender y si alguien me responde por favor.

mi pc tiene un i5 6400, 4gb de ram ddr4, un ssd 256gb y una grafica pesima gt730 de una marca que desconozco (winnfox) podria actualizarla a una gt 1030 gddr5? la fuente lo soportar?