New Build for my 76 year old dad

[Turtle Rig]

I love my old man he got me into computers back in the Tandy days Prodigy, AOL, DOS and Win 3.  He is technically very sound and can build a computer no problem.  Thankfully he is in good health and he does a lot on the PC.  He uses Quicken since the 80's going online banking etc.  He does everything imaginable on the PC.  He uses all Adobe apps including Premiere and Photoshop.  He does Photo Editing and Organizing and makes DVDs and has ton of pics.  He has had his current PC since 2011 Sandy Bridge 2600k with 16GB RAM and SSD.  However the computer was pre built and had Windows 7 which then we upgraded to Win 10.  His system is soo slow.  Like opening up my computer takes a couple seconds.  Opening a browser takes 5 seconds.  Over the years he has installed soo much stuff like 140 things in add remove programs and plus the upgrade made for a tangled OS.  He wants Intel for sure and a 500GB m.2.  He is going to keep his old computer to put on the side so there's no stress and he knows what to install and what not.  So on top of that he will need a new case and PSU non RGB.  His budget is 800 dollars and even close to 1000 dollars.  I told him about the 9900k but he didn't seem to jazzed about it.  However if it can fit in the 1k then that would be ideal.  So LTT gurus help with my old mans build.  Thank you all so much and God Bless!

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

He wants Intel for sure

This makes sense for Adobe products, but new Ryzen is so soon, it's worth waiting to see how it changes the productivity landscape. Possibility of 16 cores with SMT? Serious business.

 

Otherwise:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor	$294.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler	$57.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - H370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$85.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$97.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	SanDisk - SSD PLUS 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$99.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	ASRock - Radeon RX 570 8 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card	$139.99 @ Newegg
Case	Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$61.23 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$59.89 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$917.96
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$897.96
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-02 22:58 EDT-0400

 

[kdawwgg1221]

Does he plan to OC? @Turtle Rig

[Turtle Rig]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

This makes sense for Adobe products, but new Ryzen is so soon, it's worth waiting to see how it changes the productivity landscape. Possibility of 16 cores with SMT? Serious business.

 

Otherwise:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor	$294.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler	$57.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - H370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$85.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$97.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	SanDisk - SSD PLUS 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$99.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	ASRock - Radeon RX 570 8 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card	$139.99 @ Newegg
Case	Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$61.23 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$59.89 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$917.96
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$897.96
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-02 22:58 EDT-0400

 

You rock fasauceome.  I will tell him if he can wait 2 months for Zen 2 and for the picture to look clearer.  Other then that this build you made looks perfect for him.

[Turtle Rig]

Just now, kdawwgg1221 said:

Does he plan to OC? @Turtle Rig

We would want to use the Turbo . So if that is considered OCing then YES!!!

[kdawwgg1221]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$359.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master - Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler	$36.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$69.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$89.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$149.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card	$169.99 @ Newegg
Case	Thermaltake - Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$63.25 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$57.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1038.07
	Mail-in rebates	-$40.00
	Total	$998.07
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-02 23:05 EDT-0400

This is with slight OC'ing available. Does he like minimalistic designs for his case?

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, kdawwgg1221 said:

 

Motherboard	Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$69.99 @ Amazon

This is with slight OC'ing available. 

[kdawwgg1221]

1 minute ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

Motherboard Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

It isn't incapable of handling SOME OC'ing just not a lot. Besides he can spend an extra $40 to get the MSI Z370 board. That is what the budget called for. 

[kdawwgg1221]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$359.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master - Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler	$36.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI - Z370M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$94.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$89.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$149.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card	$169.99 @ Newegg
Case	Thermaltake - Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$63.25 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$57.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1073.07
	Mail-in rebates	-$50.00
	Total	$1023.07
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-02 23:15 EDT-0400

Better? @Herman Mcpootis

[Fasauceome]

11 minutes ago, kdawwgg1221 said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$359.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master - Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler	$36.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$69.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$89.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$149.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card	$169.99 @ Newegg
Case	Thermaltake - Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$63.25 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$57.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1038.07
	Mail-in rebates	-$40.00
	Total	$998.07
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-02 23:05 EDT-0400

This is with slight OC'ing available. Does he like minimalistic designs for his case?

970 evo, RGB cooler? I think you can shave off some of the fanciness here and there for more performance, a 500GB SATA SSD opens up a lot more spending and the non RGB 212 black saves a cool $5

[kdawwgg1221]

2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

970 evo, RGB cooler? I think you can shave off some of the fanciness here and there for more performance, a 500GB SATA SSD opens up a lot more spending and the non RGB 212 black saves a cool $5

Ah I didn't see the RGB on the 212. The 970 evo is excellent. His dad wanted the M.2 drive tho? I changed the mobo on the other parts list posted

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, kdawwgg1221 said:

Ah I didn't see the RGB on the 212. The 970 evo is excellent. His dad wanted the M.2 drive tho? I changed the mobo on the other parts list posted

I usually recommend an M.2 SATA SSD unless I see that there's a use case that specifically need NVMe speeds (but 2/5" drives aren't that far off then so the recommendation for those is still valid)

 

@Turtle Rig Is video editing with huge files in the projected workload? If not, classic normie SSDs will do.

[brob]

The F suffix indicates a cpu without integrated gpu. The motherboard needs BIOS P3.10 to use the cpu. It should not be an issue, but must be checked before purchase.

 

The Noctua cpu cooler isn't strictly necessary.

 

Edited because I'm still getting used to the new pcpartpicker layout.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($167.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler  ($57.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - H370M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Walmart) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - P1 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($69.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 4 GB PULSE Video Card  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define Nano S Mini ITX Desktop Case  ($69.52 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($48.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $734.25
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-02 23:45 EDT-0400

 

[BigRom]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($294.99 @ Walmart) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler  ($57.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - H370 AORUS Gaming 3 WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($70.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 PRO 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($139.00 @ B&H) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 4 GB PULSE Video Card  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MWE Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($60.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $933.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-02 23:44 EDT-0400

[LienusLateTips]

1 hour ago, kdawwgg1221 said:

It isn't incapable of handling SOME OC'ing just not a lot. Besides he can spend an extra $40 to get the MSI Z370 board. That is what the budget called for. 

You literally can't OC on that board, it's locked.

 

Get a Z390 UD at the very minimum for OC...

[Turtle Rig]

Thanks all for the great responses.  All of them are great.    My dad will be set for a long time to come.

[thinwalrus]

There is something wrong with his current system. Just do a fresh install of windows and make sure os is on ssd as the programs he uses.

[Turtle Rig]

1 minute ago, thinwalrus said:

There is something wrong with his current system. Just do a fresh install of windows and make sure os is on ssd as the programs he uses.

Thanks for the response.  Ya his system is bad,, My Computer takes couple seconds to come up.  browser takes 5 seconds and everything else is slow.  He has SSD and OS and apps on it.  The problem is when he got the system it was Winblows 7,  Then we upgraded him and put image from hard drive to SSD.  Plus he has soo much stuff installed.  The OS shouldn't behave like this.  A clean format would do the trick thinwalrus my friend but he, or I talked him into getting a new system since his is 2011 Sandy... 

[thinwalrus]

Just now, Turtle Rig said:

Thanks for the response.  Ya his system is bad,, My Computer takes couple seconds to come up.  browser takes 5 seconds and everything else is slow.  He has SSD and OS and apps on it.  The problem is when he got the system it was Winblows 7,  Then we upgraded him and put image from hard drive to SSD.  Plus he has soo much stuff installed.  The OS shouldn't behave like this.  A clean format would do the trick thinwalrus my friend but he, or I talked him into getting a new system since his is 2011 Sandy... 

I was just making a point that the parts are not so bad that you should see a big difference on basic stuff.

 

For that light use case a nuc could be nice. Its about 400$ with the 4c8t i5 you see in mid tier Macbook Pros. So with 16gb memory and 1tb ssd should be about 600-700$ in a nice tiny package. Imo the new Nucs are the best product from Intel in years.

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC-Mainstream-Kit-NUC8i5BEK/dp/B07GX59NY8/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=nuc8i5&qid=1556896417&s=gateway&sr=8-1&th=1

 

[trevb0t]

If he could be talked into AMD, the Ryzen 5 series are such a good value. I opted for a newer 2600X and paired it with some gear that will let you hit a decent overclock on it for fun! The 590 is at a great price point and offers 1080p Ultra or 1440p gaming currently. Hard to argue the value!

 

Since he wants no RGB, I opted for a no-nonsense, all black build! (The GPU does have some tiny red detailing on it, but it's minimal.) I don't even think there's an LED on this thing...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$179.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler	$31.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$89.14 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$82.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Crucial - P1 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$69.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$48.49 @ Amazon
Video Card	ASRock - Radeon RX 590 8 GB Phantom Gaming X Video Card	$209.99 @ Newegg
Case	Corsair - Carbide Series 275R (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$53.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	BitFenix - Formula Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$69.88 @ SuperBiiz
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$836.35
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-03 11:45 EDT-0400