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A 750 ti for a very low price would do, but sometimes they're above like $70 which makes them not worth it, so the 570 would be best in that case, provided you could power it.

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31 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

A 750 ti for a very low price would do, but sometimes they're above like $70 which makes them not worth it, so the 570 would be best in that case, provided you could power it.

Agreed. I would opt for 570 

 

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2 minutes ago, Brock25 said:

It only has a 300 watt power supply, wouldn't I be cutting it close on the watts? I really don't want to upgrade it....

What's the make/model of the PSU? Most 300W PSUs aren't worth the scrap they're built from.

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9 minutes ago, Brock25 said:

It's the factory OEM PSU. I'm not home right now to look at it.

If it's a Delta or a Lite-On, you're ok in terms of quality. If it's anything else, it's trash. Even if it is a Delta or Lite-On, I highly doubt that it has a PCI-E power connector at 300W, and you'd have to replace it anyway for an RX 570.

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I know the gtx1650 runs solely of pcie power. The rx570 is the same price but out performs it, with the drawback of high power draw and need of a new PSU. If you want better performance get a 500w psu during EVGA midweek madness for like $20 witht the rx570. If you don't wan't to get a new psu just get the 1650.

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7 hours ago, aisle9 said:

If it's a Delta or a Lite-On, you're ok in terms of quality. If it's anything else, it's trash. Even if it is a Delta or Lite-On, I highly doubt that it has a PCI-E power connector at 300W, and you'd have to replace it anyway for an RX 570.

Here is the power supply.

https://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/pid_lookup.asp?pid=168840&gclid=Cj0KCQjwh6XmBRDRARIsAKNInDGF4JOC8ZoeJtVUluzdet33Yj0otavhyaaXsw9GSpSdoZmWGgCL8aYaAqr5EALw_wcB

 

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6 hours ago, mrmoyer said:

I know the gtx1650 runs solely of pcie power. The rx570 is the same price but out performs it, with the drawback of high power draw and need of a new PSU. If you want better performance get a 500w psu during EVGA midweek madness for like $20 witht the rx570. If you don't wan't to get a new psu just get the 1650.

I was trying to avoid upgrading the PSU, I picked up the computer for free and wanted to just upgrade the GPU for some decent gaming. It has a GeForce GT 420 right now.

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48 minutes ago, Brock25 said:

It's a Lite-On, so you're good there. The bad news is that 300W is not adequate for a 95W CPU paired with a 120W GPU, and it doesn't have a PCI-E connector. To use the RX 570, you'll have to upgrade the PSU, no two ways around it.

 

Your options at the 75W or lower point which doesn't require the extra connector in order of strongest to weakest would be the GTX 1650 (don't buy this), the GTX 1050 Ti or 1050 (probably shouldn't buy these either), the RX 560/460, the GTX 750 Ti, the RX 550 and GT 1030. I mean, honestly, none of those are great value on the used market right now, and one shouldn't even consider buying any of them new. If you can possibly swing it, a Corsair CX450 is going for $30 right now on Newegg, and you can land an RX 470 or 570 on eBay for around $70-80 if you throw offers out there. That puts you around $110 for a much more powerful GPU with an adequate power supply. A 75W GTX 1050 Ti is going to cost you that much by itself right now, and a GTX 750 Ti, about $60 by itself, is an antiquated card that's racing towards being a 720p/HTPC option at best (but we still love it anyway).

 

If it were me, I'd take the new PSU and an RX 570/470. The economics for the other cards just don't make sense.

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5 hours ago, Brock25 said:

I am also looking at buying this power supply, recommendations?

 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2cMwrH/corsair-vs-650w-80-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020172-na

I wouldnt go for that, its only 80+ and its a vs series, which is tier c according to this list. I would go tier b at least for any gaming build

 

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