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48 minutes ago, jpguitar said:

15-dc0051nr

Good deal, just need to be aware of the low sRGB 60Hz IPS display and hot temps due to quiet fans

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Hey everyone, 


Greetings from Chicago, where I mowed my lawn in beautiful sunny weather yesterday and watching a ton of snowfall coming down today.  I'm currently in the market for a new daily driver laptop.  This will be part of my shifting workflow from Mac to PC.

 

Budget:  Around $1,500ish.

 

Heavily considering Matebook X Pro (2018, i7 8550u quad-core 16gb ddr3 ram, mx150) & Dell XPS 15 (2018, i7 8750h 6-core, 16gb ddr4 ram, 1080p screen).

 

Use case:  Daily every-day normal laptop use, but some workload use as well.  This includes:  Running PreSonus Studio One Professional for mobile audio production, and Da Vinci Resolve for 1080p video editing and maybe light 4k video editing (although, I do have a desktop w/i7-8700 & 1080ti for major video editing use).

 

Here are my concerns:

 

-I'm upgrading from a mid-2012 Macbook Pro 9,1 (i7-3720qm 2.6ghz, 4-core 8-thread, 16gb ddr3 RAM, 1TB SSD).  I'm concerned that the i7-8550u on the Matebook isn't THAT much of an upgrade.

 

-I think a quad-core i7 should still be fine given that my workflow isn't super-intensive, but I do have concerns that it'll be too long in the tooth in a couple years.  This concern may be artificial, though.

 

-The Matebook X Pro ships w/ddr3 ram.  Weird to see this on a 2018 model, but...does it really matter?  I'm not sure I'd notice this in real-world use.

 

If there's any further info I can provide, please let me know & I'd be happy to do so.  Thanks for reading and for any input!

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XPS will have better performance 

 

The Matebook is the better overall laptop. 

 

10 minutes ago, jpguitar said:

The Matebook X Pro ships w/ddr3 ram.  Weird to see this on a 2018 model, but...does it really matter?  I'm not sure I'd notice this in real-world use.

Practically all laptops use ddr3. Not very uncommon at all. You prpbably wont notice it. 

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2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

XPS will have better performance 

 

The Matebook is the better overall laptop. 

  

 Practically all laptops use ddr3. Not very uncommon at all. You prpbably wont notice it. 

Ok, thanks for clarifying!  I'll get my hands on a Matebook at a Microsoft store (I believe they have them in stock at the one near me).  It does seem like performance-wise, it'd be just fine for my needs.

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6 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

XPS will have better performance 

 

The Matebook is the better overall laptop. 

 

Practically all laptops use ddr3. Not very uncommon at all. You prpbably wont notice it. 

my xps uses ddr4, most sodimm laptops use ddr4

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3 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

my xps uses ddr4, most sodimm laptops use ddr4

Untill like last year ddr3 have been Alot more common. Ddr4 adoption in laptops have been a rather slow development. 

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Any preference on weight and battery life?

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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19 minutes ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Any preference on weight and battery life?

Preferably lighter than my current MBP (5.6 pounds) and average-at-worst battery life.

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36 minutes ago, jpguitar said:

average-at-worst battery life

Min how many hours?

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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5 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Min how many hours?

5-6 hours, I suppose.  Battery life isn't a huge deal-breaker. 

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I'm leaning in the direction of the Dell XPS 15, mostly due to it's proven quality customer service (a concern with the Matebook) & reputation of lasting many years (an unknown with the Matebook).

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7 hours ago, jpguitar said:

I'm leaning in the direction of the Dell XPS 15, mostly due to it's proven quality customer service (a concern with the Matebook) & reputation of lasting many years (an unknown with the Matebook).

XPS 15 has many issues

On 4/28/2019 at 4:39 AM, jpguitar said:

5.6 pounds

5-6 hours, I suppose.  Battery life isn't a huge deal-breaker

If battery life isn't a huge deal breaker, why not gaming laptops?

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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Yes, but the Matebook has many issues, too.  And I feel more comfortable w/Dell's customer support in the event of any issues. I also got my hands on both the Matebook & XPS yesterday and the XPS felt far better & more pleasant to use.  

 

A gaming laptop is an interesting choice, but I do want a very comfortable feel, and the XPS felt great.  I haven't tried any gaming laptops, though, so will perhaps explore that route.  I don't do any actual gaming on a laptop, but could be worth looking into.  Any suggestions 15"?

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After digging some more, I have a Lenovo Legion Y740:  i7 8750H, 15.6" FHD GSync 144hz, 16GB DDR4, 1TB 7200rpm + 256SSD, GeForce 2070, Three Year PremiumCare, 3Y accidental damage protection all for $1,580.  This is easily the best deal I've come across.

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Mobile workstations:

Lenovo Thinkpad P52

Dell Precision 7530

 

2070MQ/2060/1660TI gaming laptops:

(TongFang GK7) CyberpowerPC Tracer III 17S Slim VR / 17R Xtreme / 17 Turbo VR, Eluktronics MECH-17 G1Rx

Clevo P970EF/RD/ED

Lenovo Legion Y740 15 81HE0004US / 81HE005XUS

Clevo P960EF/RD/ED, Clevo P950EF

(TongFang GK5) CyberpowerPC Tracer III 15Z Slim VR / 15R Slim VR, Eluktronics MECH-15 G2R

Dell G7 7590 - CPU power limit issue

Clevo NH50ED, NH55EDQ, NH58EDQ / NH58RCQ - no reviews yet

 

Upgrade RAM and storage by yourself for cheaper cost. All options above are under 2.5kg

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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I bought the 2018 Matebook X Pro for $1,300 USD, i7/512gb/16gb.  So far, love it.  :)

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Update:  I returned the Matebook X Pro.  It is a great laptop, but to my surprise, I realized that I do NOT prefer thin & light laptops.  I prefer a bulkier, more sturdy build.  Also, it's amazing how big of an effect a 14" compared to 15.6" screen can have on your workflow.  That extra space was badly missed during music production.  

 

So, I went into Micro Center looking at ASUS laptops, but left with an HP Omen 15-dc0051nr (i7 8750h 6-core, 256gb SSD, 1tb HDD, 16gb DDR4 Ram, GTX 1060 6gb), as it was on sale for $999. I'll soon upgrade the SSD. Looking forward to getting deep into workflow on this in the next 2 weeks, so that if I don't like it during that time, I can return it in full.  Looking forward to it!

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48 minutes ago, jpguitar said:

15-dc0051nr

Good deal, just need to be aware of the low sRGB 60Hz IPS display and hot temps due to quiet fans

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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On 4/27/2019 at 9:39 PM, jpguitar said:

Hey everyone, 


Greetings from Chicago, where I mowed my lawn in beautiful sunny weather yesterday and watching a ton of snowfall coming down today.  I'm currently in the market for a new daily driver laptop.  This will be part of my shifting workflow from Mac to PC.

 

Budget:  Around $1,500ish.

 

Heavily considering Matebook X Pro (2018, i7 8550u quad-core 16gb ddr3 ram, mx150) & Dell XPS 15 (2018, i7 8750h 6-core, 16gb ddr4 ram, 1080p screen).

 

Use case:  Daily every-day normal laptop use, but some workload use as well.  This includes:  Running PreSonus Studio One Professional for mobile audio production, and Da Vinci Resolve for 1080p video editing and maybe light 4k video editing (although, I do have a desktop w/i7-8700 & 1080ti for major video editing use).

 

Here are my concerns:

 

-I'm upgrading from a mid-2012 Macbook Pro 9,1 (i7-3720qm 2.6ghz, 4-core 8-thread, 16gb ddr3 RAM, 1TB SSD).  I'm concerned that the i7-8550u on the Matebook isn't THAT much of an upgrade.

 

-I think a quad-core i7 should still be fine given that my workflow isn't super-intensive, but I do have concerns that it'll be too long in the tooth in a couple years.  This concern may be artificial, though.

 

-The Matebook X Pro ships w/ddr3 ram.  Weird to see this on a 2018 model, but...does it really matter?  I'm not sure I'd notice this in real-world use.

 

If there's any further info I can provide, please let me know & I'd be happy to do so.  Thanks for reading and for any input!

The xps will have better cpu and gpu performance, better build quality and will last longer

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7 hours ago, DarkDragon2K04 said:

The xps will have better cpu and gpu performance, better build quality and will last longer

Bad cooling, many quality issues, no one can guarantee on reliability

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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On ‎5‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 5:29 AM, GeneXiS_X said:

Bad cooling, many quality issues, no one can guarantee on reliability

the xps still cools better than a MacBook. The xps is still reviewed as one of the best laptops of last year so if you think that you can list 5 better laptop please be my guest

 

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9 hours ago, DarkDragon2K04 said:

the xps still cools better than a MacBook

Worse than most other competitors

9 hours ago, DarkDragon2K04 said:

one of the best laptops of last year

Not for me

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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