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hi all,

 

am planning to build my first PC in the near future. main usage for the pc is web surfing, youtube and MS office. I play games like xcom 2, Civ 6, football manager, fifa19, counter strike, SimCity and similar games no demanding games.

 

anyway I created a build online and was hoping for some opinions.

 

pc part picker list

 

I noticed that there are compatibility issues between the CPU and motherboard, wonder what other motherboard would be fine

 

 

thanks

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A b360 board will only work with a ninth gen processor if it has the most up to date BIOS, if you can borrow an 8th gen CPU to update your motherboard then that would work.

 

Also since your tasks involve non demanding games, Ryzen is a great way to save money.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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That is the very definition of overkill for what you're using it for. A Ryzen 2400G, or if you can wait, a 3rd gen Ryzen with integrated graphics will be plenty for you without just flat out wasting money, and they hold up really well to an add in graphics card later if you start playing games that will actually need the power.

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3 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

A b360 board will only work with a ninth gen processor if it has the most up to date BIOS, if you can borrow an 8th gen CPU to update your motherboard then that would work.

 

Also since your tasks involve non demanding games, Ryzen is a great way to save money.

thanks for the reply,

 

what other motherboard do you recommend??? BTW am looking for a motherboard with wifi integrated

 

not very familiar with AMD products

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1 minute ago, mightymoe said:

thanks for the reply,

 

what other motherboard do you recommend??? BTW am looking for a motherboard with wifi integrated

 

not very familiar with AMD products

Try this build out:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $164.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI - B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $119.49 @ SuperBiiz
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $77.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $149.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Asus - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB STRIX GAMING Advanced Video Card $412.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case NZXT - H200 (White) Mini ITX Tower Case $78.99 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply SeaSonic - G 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  
Monitor Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $199.99 @ Adorama
Keyboard Logitech - G213 PRODIGY Wired Gaming Keyboard $44.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse $39.99 @ Amazon
Speakers Logitech - Z200 0 nW 2ch Speakers $24.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1314.30
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-25 19:59 EDT-0400  

The PSU has no price tag, looks to be an older model. Do you already own it?

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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4 minutes ago, RobFRaschke said:

That is the very definition of overkill for what you're using it for. A Ryzen 2400G, or if you can wait, a 3rd gen Ryzen with integrated graphics will be plenty for you without just flat out wasting money, and they hold up really well to an add in graphics card later if you start playing games that will actually need the power.

thanks for the reply,

 

as I mentioned above am not very familiar with AMD products, and I know that intel integrated graphics are crap.

 

I would wait for a month or 2 but no more than that

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2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Try this build out:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $164.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI - B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $119.49 @ SuperBiiz
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $77.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $149.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Asus - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB STRIX GAMING Advanced Video Card $412.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case NZXT - H200 (White) Mini ITX Tower Case $78.99 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply SeaSonic - G 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  
Monitor Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $199.99 @ Adorama
Keyboard Logitech - G213 PRODIGY Wired Gaming Keyboard $44.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse $39.99 @ Amazon
Speakers Logitech - Z200 0 nW 2ch Speakers $24.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1314.30
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-25 19:59 EDT-0400  

The PSU has no price tag, looks to be an older model. Do you already own it?

If going Ryzen, this will need a bump in memory speed as well. 3000 is minimum, IMHO.

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3 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Try this build out:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $164.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI - B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $119.49 @ SuperBiiz
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $77.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $149.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Asus - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB STRIX GAMING Advanced Video Card $412.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case NZXT - H200 (White) Mini ITX Tower Case $78.99 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply SeaSonic - G 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  
Monitor Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $199.99 @ Adorama
Keyboard Logitech - G213 PRODIGY Wired Gaming Keyboard $44.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse $39.99 @ Amazon
Speakers Logitech - Z200 0 nW 2ch Speakers $24.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1314.30
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-25 19:59 EDT-0400  

The PSU has no price tag, looks to be an older model. Do you already own it?

no, I live in Canada and used the Canadian website for the build

 

thanks

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Just now, RobFRaschke said:

If going Ryzen, this will need a bump in memory speed as well. 3000 is minimum, IMHO.

3000 is where you start to see diminishing returns, 2666 is definitely enough, and the possibility of an OC to 2933 is very realistic.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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Just now, mightymoe said:

no, I live in Canada and used the Canadian website for the build

 

thanks

small adjustment then:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $229.00 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard Gigabyte - B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $154.99 @ Newegg Canada
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $108.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $199.99 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card Asus - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB STRIX GAMING Advanced Video Card $539.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Case NZXT - H200 (White) Mini ITX Tower Case $104.99 @ Memory Express
Power Supply SeaSonic - G 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $103.40 @ Vuugo
Monitor Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $249.99 @ Memory Express
Keyboard Logitech - G213 PRODIGY Wired Gaming Keyboard $59.99 @ Canada Computers
Mouse Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse $59.99 @ Amazon Canada
Speakers Logitech - Z200 0 nW 2ch Speakers $29.99 @ Memory Express
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1841.31
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-25 20:04 EDT-0400  

 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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1 minute ago, mightymoe said:

how reliable are those AMD cpus??? I remember years ago people used to stay away from them as much as possible (am almost 40)

The one era where AMD was to be avoided was the FX era, and that has come and gone. AMD is the comeback kid, new Ryzen is delivering white a blow to Intel because you get decent performance for significantly less money.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

The one era where AMD was to be avoided was the FX era, and that has come and gone. AMD is the comeback kid, new Ryzen is delivering white a blow to Intel because you get decent performance for significantly less money.

good to hear...

 

do you think investing in a better motherboard would be better for future upgrades if needed??

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2 minutes ago, mightymoe said:

good to hear...

 

do you think investing in a better motherboard would be better for future upgrades if needed??

The Aorus motherboard from my last list is pretty good, but if you want a really great option there's always strix. Might as well get faster ram too then.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $229.00 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard Asus - ROG STRIX X470-I GAMING Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $258.75 @ Vuugo
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $134.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $199.99 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card Asus - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB STRIX GAMING Advanced Video Card $539.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Case NZXT - H200 (White) Mini ITX Tower Case $104.99 @ Memory Express
Power Supply SeaSonic - G 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $103.40 @ Vuugo
Monitor Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $249.99 @ Memory Express
Keyboard Logitech - G213 PRODIGY Wired Gaming Keyboard $59.99 @ Canada Computers
Mouse Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse $59.99 @ Amazon Canada
Speakers Logitech - Z200 0 nW 2ch Speakers $29.99 @ Memory Express
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1971.07
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-25 20:16 EDT-0400  

 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

The Aorus motherboard from my last list is pretty good, but if you want a really great option there's always strix. Might as well get faster ram too then.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $229.00 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard Asus - ROG STRIX X470-I GAMING Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $258.75 @ Vuugo
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $134.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $199.99 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card Asus - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB STRIX GAMING Advanced Video Card $539.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Case NZXT - H200 (White) Mini ITX Tower Case $104.99 @ Memory Express
Power Supply SeaSonic - G 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $103.40 @ Vuugo
Monitor Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $249.99 @ Memory Express
Keyboard Logitech - G213 PRODIGY Wired Gaming Keyboard $59.99 @ Canada Computers
Mouse Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse $59.99 @ Amazon Canada
Speakers Logitech - Z200 0 nW 2ch Speakers $29.99 @ Memory Express
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1971.07
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-25 20:16 EDT-0400  

 

thanks a lot,

 

one last questions, I noticed that you removed the CPU cooler, I know that most CPUs come with their own fans and people always complain that they are either loud or they don't cool enough, no need for one here?

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Just now, mightymoe said:

thanks a lot,

 

one last questions, I noticed that you removed the CPU cooler, I know that most CPUs come with their own fans and people always complain that they are either loud or they don't cool enough, no need for one here?

Intel ones are the ones to avoid. They get really high pitched. They're all aluminum and pretty bad for heating. The one that comes with the i7-8700 makes it thermal throttle...

 

The AMD ones are pretty quiet. I wouldn't do heavy overclocking on them, but they're fine for stock usage or a minor overclock.

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13 minutes ago, mightymoe said:

thanks a lot,

 

one last questions, I noticed that you removed the CPU cooler, I know that most CPUs come with their own fans and people always complain that they are either loud or they don't cool enough, no need for one here?

The included wraith stealth is not a remarkably loud cooler, it will be adequate. The 212 that you had earlier isn't exactly a quiet cooler either.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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