What can 2-3 2080Ti's handle?

[ShinigamiTentetsutou]

Hello guys this is my first post here and i have actually been struggling with something for a bit now. I will be getting a new job soon making around $1800-2200 a month right now i have a Ryzen 5 1600X, 16Gb corsair vengeance, MSI 1050Ti, and a 750W EVGA PSU. Im a bit of a game developer as im still learning and soon want to get into 3D printing with it for prototyping and so on i have always put simply what i have into my PC i was never in a position to save for a good part without waiting 4-5 months just to pay for 1 good part now that i will be able to afford better parts quicker i want to build an ALL OUT Pc sort of just because i can and also because of the programs i use so this new builds parts are as follows Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX, 128Gb Corsair RAM, ASUS ROG Zenith Extreme, and i cant decide between 2 or 3 2080Ti's i want to run 3 ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ 27" 4K UHD monitors so i know 2080Ti's are very powerful but which would be better i want to do 3 so each card is dedicated to 1 monitor but im not sure if that is needed for this also the entire system will be water cooled thank you in advance for your advice.

 

P.S. my main goal with this is VR game development so it needs to handle alot but i will be using it for other types of development aswell

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236885R&ignorebbr=1

[LukeSavenije]

hm... wouldn't a vii be a better idea? it has 16 gigs of hbm2, which might be really nice for your workload

 

and that's some baller hardware you're planning

[Turtle Rig]

6 minutes ago, ShinigamiTentetsutou said:

Hello guys this is my first post here and i have actually been struggling with something for a bit now. I will be getting a new job soon making around $1800-2200 a month right now i have a Ryzen 5 1600X, 16Gb corsair vengeance, MSI 1050Ti, and a 750W EVGA PSU. Im a bit of a game developer as im still learning and soon want to get into 3D printing with it for prototyping and so on i have always put simply what i have into my PC i was never in a position to save for a good part without waiting 4-5 months just to pay for 1 good part now that i will be able to afford better parts quicker i want to build an ALL OUT Pc sort of just because i can and also because of the programs i use so this new builds parts are as follows Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX, 128Gb Corsair RAM, ASUS ROG Zenith Extreme, and i cant decide between 2 or 3 2080Ti's i want to run 3 ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ 27" 4K UHD monitors so i know 2080Ti's are very powerful but which would be better i want to do 3 so each card is dedicated to 1 monitor but im not sure if that is needed for this also the entire system will be watercooled thank you in advance for your advice

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236885R&ignorebbr=1

Why dont you wait for Zen 2 ThreadRipper.  and buy that along with your video card.  Because you have a bottleneck with that CPU.  Why not see everything in its glory.  a triple SLI will eat dirt as the CPU can not help it and has reached 100 percent load ready to choke out.  You have a bottleneck with CPU and if you wanna SLI or TRI sli its going to be a waiste.  Better to get a good CPU like 9900k then couple that with a 2080Ti      .... Your all over the place your Ryzer will not cut the rug my friend.

[LukeSavenije]

3 minutes ago, CharminUltraStrong said:

 

afaik a 2080 ti can't even do 3 way nvlink over sli (it isn't the same as the "normal" nvlink)

 

so it would already require to be running separately

[Turtle Rig]

3 hours ago, CharminUltraStrong said:

*snip*

Also as we LTT peeps know SLI is dying.  I rather buy a faster CPU and couple that with a 2080Ti ....... if you go SLI and spend 1400 bucks more the returns in performance will be dissapointing.  Maybe if your low point in a game is 85fps the SLI would make 105.. If you use freesync you will not notice the drop in frame rate and things iwll play out smoothly as 80fps is a nice sweet spot.  If you have a 144hz to drive it your looking for a fun time with your new rig.  To end, your waisting money buying a second one.  Just use the 2080Ti until the 3080 comes out and you can buy that.  Save your SLI money for the 3080 ,,,,,, doesnt this make sense ?

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[ShinigamiTentetsutou]

3 hours ago, CharminUltraStrong said:

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* all i really know is that 2080Ti's are great then there are Titan xp's and up and they just get more and more and MORE expensive so for this build i dont really know what the best cards would be im just taking what i do know and trying to see what i need to make it work well dont forget i have never built this kind of tier of computer before so im still trying to learn what good or better optimized actually is for something like this setup 

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[Turtle Rig]

The reason workstation cards are expensive is by how much VRAM it has.  A 14GB VRAM nvidia card is about 2000 dollars.  They even have 44GB of VRAM but thats costs 10 thousand dollars.

 

 

[ShinigamiTentetsutou]

Just now, Turtle Rig said:

The reason workstation cards are expensive is by how much VRAM it has.  A 14GB VRAM nvidia card is about 2000 dollars.  They even have 44GB of VRAM but thats costs 10 thousand dollars.

 

 

good god

[LukeSavenije]

can i ask again, why not a vii or two?

[LukeSavenije]

5 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

The reason workstation cards are expensive is by how much VRAM it has.  A 14GB VRAM nvidia card is about 2000 dollars.  They even have 44GB of VRAM but thats costs 10 thousand dollars.

48 gigs of vram is 5500 dollars actually... the quadro rtx 8000

[Turtle Rig]

2 minutes ago, ShinigamiTentetsutou said:

good god

Yes my friend,  that is the only main difference in workstation cars or consumer cards is the VRAM count.  The GTX or RTX can run openGL just as fast as a Titan card.  In game the highest using VRAM which I saw in a test was Quake Champions.  It uses 7.8GB of VRAM while GTA 5 and other games are 2.5 to 4GB of VRAM usage.  Only reason to buy a 2080Ti is if you plan on gaming at 4k resolution.  Also you turn on all AA methods and set all nv panel stuff to max and you will get a good 60fps with tiny drops.  Or you buy a 2070 and game at 1080p or even 1440p

[Turtle Rig]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

48 gigs of vram is 5500 dollars actually... the quadro rtx 8000

I didn't know this WTF.  I could swear I read somewhere 44 or 48GB card was 10k or note 12k ...... sighs

[ShinigamiTentetsutou]

22 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Why dont you wait for Zen 2 ThreadRipper.  and buy that along with your video card.  Because you have a bottleneck with that CPU.  Why not see everything in its glory.  a triple SLI will eat dirt as the CPU can not help it and has reached 100 percent load ready to choke out.  You have a bottleneck with CPU and if you wanna SLI or TRI sli its going to be a waiste.  Better to get a good CPU like 9900k then couple that with a 2080Ti      .... Your all over the place your Ryzer will not cut the rug my friend.

 

5 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

can i ask again, why not a vii or two?

first of all i absolutely love the idea of doing a Zen 2 or Zen 3 especially if they are coming out soon i didnt know about that and as for @LukeSavenije would it be better for me to go for the VII or the quadro RTX 8000? this system is being designed to handle whatever development i throw at it weather it be game development, VR development, video editing just whatever really i wouldnt mind doing some gaming on it but mostly it will be designed as a workstation PC and on top of that running 3 4K monitors so would it be better for me to do one of those cards or just wait for the 3080 or something?

[Turtle Rig]

1 minute ago, ShinigamiTentetsutou said:

 

first of all i absolutely love the idea of doing a Zen 2 or Zen 3 especially if they are coming out soon i didnt know about that and as for @LukeSavenije would it be better for me to go for the VII or the quadro RTX 8000? this system is being designed to handle whatever development i throw at it weather it be game development, VR development, video editing just whatever really i wouldnt mind doing some gaming on it but mostly it will be designed as a workstation PC and on top of that running 3 4K monitors so would it be better for me to do one of those cards or just wait for the 3080 or something?

Hey Luke what do you think ?  If I understand correctly you do video editing in which case I recommend wait for Zen 2 TR ,,,,,,,, the older TR's have gotten bad reviews and how terrible the single core perfomrance is.  Well with the 7nm  Zen 2 TR will hang with a 9900k.  In video editing or content creation it will blow out any desktop pc.

[LukeSavenije]

3 minutes ago, ShinigamiTentetsutou said:

 

as it's hard to know what exactly you're doing you have to make a choice

 

16 gigs of super high speed vram for 700 dollars per card

 

or 48 gigs of pretty good speed vram for 5500 dollars per card

 

and consider what you actually need

 

then i can help putting a build together

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Turtle Rig said:

Hey Luke what do you think ?  If I understand correctly you do video editing in which case I recommend wait for Zen 2 TR ,,,,,,,, the older TR's have gotten bad reviews and how terrible the single core perfomrance is.  Well with the 7nm  Zen 2 TR will hang with a 9900k.  In video editing or content creation it will blow out any desktop pc.

he could also step in with a first gen tr and upgrade it with a zen 2... just a idea

[Turtle Rig]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

he could also step in with a first gen tr and upgrade it with a zen 2... just a idea

NO sh*T Luke, its backwards compatible ?  I didn't know Zen 1 motherboards can fit Zen 2 or Zen 2 TR chips.  If he is in a hurry then listen to Luke OP.

[KarathKasun]

5 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Hey Luke what do you think ?  If I understand correctly you do video editing in which case I recommend wait for Zen 2 TR ,,,,,,,, the older TR's have gotten bad reviews and how terrible the single core perfomrance is.  Well with the 7nm  Zen 2 TR will hang with a 9900k.  In video editing or content creation it will blow out any desktop pc.

This is unknown.  Nobody knows exactly what TR 3000 series (Zen 2 TR) is going to be or how it will perform.

[ShinigamiTentetsutou]

im not in a major hurry its not like i have a deadline or anything im just trying to get this conceptualized so i know WHAT to buy first try rather than send 3k on parts just to find out they suck

 

[LukeSavenije]

3 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

NO sh*T Luke, its backwards compatible ?  I didn't know Zen 1 motherboards can fit Zen 2 or Zen 2 TR chips.  If he is in a hurry then listen to Luke OP.

as far as rumors say it should all work together

 

some rumors even say they want to get pcie 4.0 working on old boards, but i have no idea how they're going to do that...

 

b350 might not get the bios update, but i expect at least b450, x470 and x399 to get it

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, ShinigamiTentetsutou said:

im not in a major hurry its not like i have a deadline or anything im just trying to get this conceptualized so i know WHAT to buy first try rather than send 3k on parts just to find out they suck

i would suggest you look around at what programs you want to use

 

then go to puget systems and look at some benchmarks

 

make something up in pcpartpicker, and come back to me to completely destroy it

/jk

[KarathKasun]

@ShinigamiTentetsutou

 

Multiple GPU's are not going to give you the performance you want for what you are doing.  Even if you find a case where it will work, you can only link two GPUs.

[KarathKasun]

3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

as far as rumors say it should all work together

 

some rumors even say they want to get pcie 4.0 working on old boards, but i have no idea how they're going to do that...

 

b350 might not get the bios update, but i expect at least b450, x470 and x399 to get it

Easy.  Motherboards do not have anything to do with PCIe.  All of that is on the CPU.

 

The GPU slot is wired directly to the CPU.  The MB part is just traces and connectors.

[Turtle Rig]

3 minutes ago, ShinigamiTentetsutou said:

im not in a major hurry its not like i have a deadline or anything im just trying to get this conceptualized so i know WHAT to buy first try rather than send 3k on parts just to find out they suck

 

As I said before grab a 9900k and Z390 motherboard and a 2080Ti ........ it will run flawless untl you want to game at 4k ,,,,, 60fps doesn't cut the rug.  and 32GB kit and SSD and your set.  Also yes you can buy now then sell the CPU later and grab the Zen 2 and slap it on.  But I heard July for shure its coming out,, If you can wait 3 months you won't sorry.  good luck

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, KarathKasun said:

Easy.  Motherboards do not have anything to do with PCIe.  All of that is on the CPU.

doesn't chipset have some impact on it?