Thoughts on my build?

[Sylthrim]

country: austria.

budget: 1000-1100(max peak)

might get the new navi gpus or gen 3 ryzen if they are within my budget and come out within time. 

i know i can optimized and go cheaper parts...but rgb...

i have 3 1080p monitors, and play a lot of AAA titles. Decided to upgrade now for the upcoming cyberpunk 2077 game.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	€157.89 @ Mindfactory
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	€67.80 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard	MSI - B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard	€137.00 @ Mindfactory
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€125.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For €0.00
Storage	Toshiba - P300 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For €0.00
Video Card	Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card	€434.99 @ Alternate
Case	Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	€98.61 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	€88.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€1111.27
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-13 21:55 CEST+0200

 

thanks.

[Fasauceome]

9 minutes ago, Sylthrim said:

I have roughly 1 and a half months before I buy all the parts, so wanting to make sure i have everything planned beforehand.  

might get the new navi gpus or gen 3 ryzen if they are within my budget and come out within time. 

Chances are the marketplace will change a lot in a month and a half so as for price right now it's fairly up in the air.

[Turtle Rig]

2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Chances are the marketplace will change a lot in a month and a half so as for price right now it's fairly up in the air.

How bad of a rush is he on.  Why not wait for Zen 2 and everything will be crystal clear and your prices will fall down.   With a nice OC you will fair well with that CPU with a RX Vega.  Have fun with the build.

[Sylthrim]

Just now, fasauceome said:

Chances are the marketplace will change a lot in a month and a half so as for price right now it's fairly up in the air.

yea but i want a general idea of what i want, instead of going in blind. nothing is absolute. if a price goes too high on one item, i just switch it out with something else. Worst care scenario, i drop the aio water cooler, and get it another time. 

[Sylthrim]

Just now, Turtle Rig said:

How bad of a rush is he on.  Why not wait for Zen 2 and everything will be crystal clear and your prices will fall down.   With a nice OC you will fair well with that CPU with a RX Vega.  Have fun with the build.

like i said, if the gen 3 ryzens come out at the time im buying, i will get one. they will still have the am4 socket, but that is 1 component needed over how many? I didnt research enough on my first build that now i dont want to make the same mistake.

[mariushm]

RX Vega 64 is not a great deal at that price.

 

nVidia RTX 2060 performs fairly well (wins in some, loses in some but not by a big percentage) and is cheaper and consumes less power. I see the 6GB models for as low as around 280 euro on Amazon.co.uk (converting GBP to Euro).

You can see a RTX 2060 Founder's Edition compared to Vega 64 on Anandtech here: https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2143?vs=2372

I'll attach an image below if you're too lazy to look it up.

Besides this ... I'd suggest buying something else, not Toshiba, for mechanical drive. And you could spend a few euro more on a better SSD (more endurance, more TBW etc etc)

RAM is ok, case is subjective, Seasonic makes good power supplies so that's also OK... motherboard is ok. You may want to look more into motherboards to get one with features you want, like usb 3.1 gen 2 (10gbps) or other things.

If you save on the video card, you could probably go for a 2700x, but you could also wait a bit more and see what shows up for Zen 2 (Ryzen 3xxx series)

 

 

[trevb0t]

I've seen some hubub about this board for RGB at a small savings:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/wb7v6h/asrock-b450-steel-legend-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-steel-legend

 

But I agree.. See what the 2nd gen market does when 3rd gen comes before you buy. It's likely to drop. (and 3rd gen will be great options.)

[Sylthrim]

Just now, mariushm said:

RX Vega 64 is not a great deal at that price.

 

nVidia RTX 2060 performs fairly well (wins in some, loses in some but not by a big percentage) and is cheaper and consumes less power. I see the 6GB models for as low as around 280 euro on Amazon.co.uk (converting GBP to Euro).

You can see a RTX 2060 Founder's Edition compared to Vega 64 on Anandtech here: https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2143?vs=2372

I'll attach an image below if you're too lazy to look it up.

Besides this ... I'd suggest buying something else, not Toshiba, for mechanical drive. And you could spend a few euro more on a better SSD (more endurance, more TBW etc etc)

RAM is ok, case is subjective, Seasonic makes good power supplies so that's also OK... motherboard is ok. You may want to look more into motherboards to get one with features you want, like usb 3.1 gen 2 (10gbps) or other things.

If you save on the video card, you could probably go for a 2700x, but you could also wait a bit more and see what shows up for Zen 2 (Ryzen 3xxx series)

 

 

hey thanks for helping. I know about the rtx  2060, was my first choice until i saw that the vega 64 can be really well OC to even compete with a 1080 or a 2070. The vega 64's prices do fluctuate a lot. I saw it as low as 390€. If the vega 64 is too high around the time I buy, im definitely going with an rtx 2060. I am hoping to get a gen 3 ryzen but who knows. 

[Sylthrim]

4 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

I've seen some hubub about this board for RGB at a lower price:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wb7v6h/asrock-b450-steel-legend-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-steel-legend

thanks for the adivce, but i need wifi+bluetooth, since I use those heavily. i couldnt find a cheaper mobo with wifi and bluetooth 

[trevb0t]

3 minutes ago, Sylthrim said:

thanks for the adivce, but i need wifi+bluetooth, since I use those heavily. i couldnt find a cheaper mobo with wifi and bluetooth 

Noooooo. Just get a pcie or usb adapter for the wireless connections. Those wifi boards are way too pricey for little gain. (Though frankly that one's not too expensive.... Maybe it's a deal! In the US it's a $60 price increase to wifi lol.)

[Sylthrim]

8 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

Noooooo. Just get a pcie or usb adapter for the wireless connections. Those wifi boards are way too pricey for little gain. (Though frankly that one's not too expensive.... Maybe it's a deal! In the US it's a $60 price increase to wifi lol.)

i noticed that the msi b450 carbon ac is cheaper than a wifi and bluetooth adapter with a cheaper mobo, and i dont have 2 slots filled on my pc.

[trevb0t]

5 minutes ago, Sylthrim said:

i noticed that the msi b450 carbon ac is cheaper than a wifi and bluetooth adapter with a cheaper mobo, and i dont have 2 slots filled on my pc.

Good thinkin! I'm not used to a market where they are a reasonable price lol

[ch3w2oy]

27 minutes ago, Sylthrim said:

hey thanks for helping. I know about the rtx  2060, was my first choice until i saw that the vega 64 can be really well OC to even compete with a 1080 or a 2070. The vega 64's prices do fluctuate a lot. I saw it as low as 390€. If the vega 64 is too high around the time I buy, im definitely going with an rtx 2060. I am hoping to get a gen 3 ryzen but who knows. 

Get the vega 64. Wouldn't get anything from Nvidia except 2080 or higher. AMD software alone could convince me, so much better than Nvidias. I have a Radeon VII now but had a liquid Vega 64 before that and it did better than any benchmark out there. I am telling you for a fact, you cannot go by reviews on AMD cards. They do the reviews at launch in most cases and never touch them again. They also don't overclock or undervolt them in most cases. If you don't mind tinkering and playing with some settings, like me, you will FUCKING LOVE that card over any Nvidia card... That I can promise. 

 

My Vega 64 and 2080 hold the record over in the superposition thread, for each cards class. Fastest 2080 and fastest Vega 64. Can't wait until I benchmark my VII. Such a better experience. For me anyway.. 

 

And that's coming from someone who stold their 2080 ftw3 for a Radeon VII. Like a fucking  boss. Let the kids have their out of box performance.

[Sylthrim]

8 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

Good thinkin! I'm not used to a market where they are a reasonable price lol

thanks lol. i was surprised myself how cheap it was compared to other mobos with wifi and bluetooth. 

[Sylthrim]

7 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

Get the vega 64. Wouldn't get anything from Nvidia except 2080 or higher. AMD software alone could convince me, so much better than Nvidias. I have a Radeon VII now but had a liquid Vega 64 before that and it did better than any benchmark out there. I am telling you for a fact, you cannot go by reviews on AMD cards. They do the reviews at launch in most cases and never touch them again. They also don't overclock or undervolt them in most cases. If you don't mind tinkering and playing with some settings, like me, you will FUCKING LOVE that card over any Nvidia card... That I can promise. 

 

My Vega 64 and 2080 hold the record over in the superposition thread, for each cards class. Fastest 2080 and fastest Vega 64. Can't wait until I benchmark my VII. Such a better experience. For me anyway.. 

 

And that's coming from someone who stold their 2080 ftw3 for a Radeon VII. Like a fucking  boss. Let the kids have their out of box performance.

the vega 64 is my first choice, but if the price rises too much i might have to go with the 2060. I havent done much undervolting or oc, but i wanted to start doing that and i want the vega 64 to be my first.