Best Cpu to choose

[Pramain F]

hey guys im thinking of upgrading my pc, i mainly play the division 2 these days, and cpu load is 100% all the time, i only do gaming and i dont have a big plan on streaming 

i only want to upgrade the cpu, mb and ram and i do gaming on 1080p

here is my current pc specs

 

Intel i5 4590

Gigabyte H97 gaming 3

16gb ddr3

Asus 980gtx 4gb

Seasonic S12II 520w psu

 

im confused which cpu to chose intel or amd

 

Blue team

Intel I5-9400F

Gigabyte H370 Aorus Gaming 3

8gb ram ddr4

 

Red Team

AMD Ryzen 5 2600 

Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro WIFI

8gb ram ddr4

 

which team should i choose ? 

prices are pretty much same here in the market

big question is , if i go for amd ,should i wait for AMD 3000 cpu series or not ?

let me know if there are better cpus for these builds

 

share your ideas guys 
cheers 

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Pramain F said:

Red Team

AMD Ryzen 5 2600 

Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro WIFI

8gb ram ddr4

this one (could do a different mobo, but this one is really good)

• better mobo
• overclocking
• SMT
• better upgrade path

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, Pramain F said:

Seasonic S12II 520w psu

and change this one while you're at it

[ELSknutson]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

this one (could do a different mobo, but this one is really good)

• better mobo
• overclocking
• SMT
• better upgrade path

I agree I would get a different motherboard theirs another guy posting who is having issues with his Aorus MOBO also Gigabyte has not had the best reputation for quality as of late and have been having some issues with allot of there products 

[ELSknutson]

3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

and change this one while you're at it

Whats wrong with that PSU its 80 Plus Bronze and  Made by an OEM of powersupplys for the top brands Like Corsair give it its usually there low end PSU's but If it works whats the difference.  now if  @Pramain F is getting a new GTX 1080/ti,2080/ti then yes I would agree. 

[LukeSavenije]

4 minutes ago, ELSknutson said:

I agree I would get a different motherboard theirs another guy posting who is having issues with his Aorus MOBO also Gigabyte has not had the best reputation for quality as of late and have been having some issues with allot of there products 

that's one case, i haven't seen that many gigabyte problems compared to msi, asus and asrock actually

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, ELSknutson said:

Whats wrong with that PSU its 80 Plus Bronze and  Made by an OEM of powersupplys for the top brands Like Corsair give it its usually there low end PSU's but If it works whats the difference.  now if  @Pramain F is getting a new GTX 1080/ti,2080/ti then yes I would agree. 

the design is over 10 years old, uses group regulation and a brand/oem is never a good way to judge

[ELSknutson]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

the design is over 10 years old, uses group regulation and a brand/oem is never a good way to judge

Thats True but if it works and has been reliable whats why spend the extra money if you dont have to. 

[Pramain F]

10 minutes ago, ELSknutson said:

I agree I would get a different motherboard theirs another guy posting who is having issues with his Aorus MOBO also Gigabyte has not had the best reputation for quality as of late and have been having some issues with allot of there products 

yeah il go for Asus 

[LukeSavenije]

3 minutes ago, ELSknutson said:

Thats True but if it works and has been reliable whats why spend the extra money if you dont have to. 

because group regulation is known to get easily out of spec with a system like this and that could actually damage his components?

 

i mean, better safe than sorry

[Pramain F]

guys any particular reason why i should not go for intel , budget is not an issue since both build are priced pretty much same
i just need your ideas 

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Pramain F said:

yeah il go for Asus 

watch out on Asus. there are so many units that aren't even fully keepable of the better ryzen chips, like a lot of the prime and tuf series (except for the prime-a)

 

I recently made a motherboard tier list with a couple others, where we take power delivery and known problems in mind, maybe that's something to check out

 

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Pramain F said:

guys any particular reason why i should not go for intel , budget is not an issue since both build are priced pretty much same
i just need your ideas 

as mentioned above, the amd is better in many ways, which makes the 8400 and 9400f a much worse value

 

I personally wouldn't get intel if you're going for below a 8600k/9600k or if ryzen is that much more expensive in your region

[Bearmann]

Using the CPU's at stock, the 9400F will be better in most games, but you can see if Division 2 is one of the games in these samples. If you overclock, I would get the Ryzen 2600:

 

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[GoldenLag]

6 minutes ago, Pramain F said:

guys any particular reason why i should not go for intel , budget is not an issue since both build are priced pretty much same
i just need your ideas 

youll need a Z390 board to ensure BIOS compatibility. as such the H370 likely wont work as it uses an old BIOS before the release of the 9400f. 

 

you could also just wait for Zen 2  if you really want to

[Pramain F]

i play games on 1080p 60fps capped 

can someone tell me is ryzen 2600 enough or should i go for 2600x or ryzen 7 

im using gtx 980 , any bottleneck ??  

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Pramain F said:

i play games on 1080p 60fps capped 

can someone tell me is ryzen 2600 enough or should i go for 2600x or ryzen 7 

im using gtx 980 , any bottleneck ??  

2600 on a good oc=2600x

 

it should be enough, and the bottleneck is minimal

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Pramain F said:

i play games on 1080p 60fps capped 

can someone tell me is ryzen 2600 enough or should i go for 2600x or ryzen 7 

im using gtx 980 , any bottleneck ??  

Ryzen 2600 is what you want unless the 2600x is within 15-20$. 

 

bottleneck is not something you should be concerned about. 

 

i would recommend waiting for Ryzen 3000 releasing in a month or 2. 

[trevb0t]

7 minutes ago, Pramain F said:

i play games on 1080p 60fps capped 

can someone tell me is ryzen 2600 enough or should i go for 2600x or ryzen 7 

im using gtx 980 , any bottleneck ??  

It doesn't bottleneck my RX 580 8GB at all (not even close.) It's a fairly comparable card in benchmarks at least. 

 

My combo plays 1080p (60mhz) on new titles at 60fps+ without breaking a sweat.

[Pramain F]

guys these are the motherboards available at the shop im looking 

 

gigabyte X470 aorus ultra gaming
Msi x470 gaming plus

 

Asus Tuf B450-plus gaming
Asus Prime B450-plus
Msi B450 gaming pro carbon Ac wifi
Gigabyte B450 Aorus pro wifi

 

can you recommend a good motherboard for me please?

[trevb0t]

As many will point out, if you go Ryzen be sure to use dual channel RAM (2 sticks) and faster is better (between 2933 and 3200 is that nice place to be.) Any higher than 3200mhz will start to raise the latency and timings, so that's where most would cap for gaming.

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Pramain F said:

gigabyte X470 aorus ultra gaming
Msi x470 gaming plus

 

Asus Tuf B450-plus gaming
Asus Prime B450-plus
Msi B450 gaming pro carbon Ac wifi
Gigabyte B450 Aorus pro wifi

from these not those two... horrible vrms for the price

 

any of these will do (quoted from that list you saw above)

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Tier S Extreme (LN2) overclocking (r7oc, Threadripper 1000oc/2000oc)

Asus: Crosshair VI extreme, Zenith extreme (alpha)

Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme

MSI: MEG creation

 

Tier A High-end gaming (r7oc, Threadripper 1000oc/Threadripper 2000)

Asus: Crosshair VII hero, Crosshair VI hero, x470-Prime Pro, x399-Strix, x399-Prime A, X470-strix

Asrock: Taichi (ultimate), X470-Fatal1ty

Biostar: X370GT7

Gigabyte: Aorus gaming 7, Aorus Ultra, Designare

MSI: M7, x470/x399-pro carbon, x399-sli plus, b450-gaming plus itx

 

Tier B Mainstream gaming (r5oc, r7oc, Threadripper 1000)

Asus: B450-strix, x370-strix, x370-prime-pro

Asrock: b450-fatal1ty, b450-pro4, x370-fatal1ty, x399-fatal1ty, Phantom gaming 6
Biostar: x470GTN,x370GTN B350GT3

Gigabyte: Aorus Elite, gaming k7, gaming k5, aorus gaming 5, Aorus pro,  Aorus m,

MSI:  x470-Gaming Pro, b450-pro carbon, b450-Tomahawk, b450-mortar, b450-bazooka (plus), x470-gaming plus

 

[Pramain F]

1 minute ago, trevb0t said:

As many will point out, if you go Ryzen be sure to use dual channel RAM (2 sticks) and faster is better (between 2933 and 3200 is that nice place to be.)

what is that 2933 speed ?

normally its 2666, 2800, 3000, 3200, 3600 etc..

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Pramain F said:

what is that 2933 speed ?

normally its 2666, 2800, 3000, 3200, 3600 etc..

a spec in the ryzen 2000 chips, most aren't made exactly to it

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, Pramain F said:

what is that 2933 speed ?

normally its 2666, 2800, 3000, 3200, 3600 etc..

what you will be looking for is 3000mhz cl16 Ram