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Hey all, just wanted some input here maybe if anyone has any experience with the mentioned coolers. I'm thinking of upgrading my current cooler (hyper212evo) to a noctua model, i already have two chromax fans (NF-F12) in push pull on my 212evo. Main question here is how much better would the NH-U12s or the NH-U12A vs the evo 212 tight for space in the case and those 120mm coolers are the perfect size. thanks to anyone with input!

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Noctuas are worth the price hike if you're considering 

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1 minute ago, hello_there_123 said:

which cpu

not always.

Most of the time not always.

Even if it's not solely for performance, their mounting is so easy, they give you great fans, thermal paste and even other little accessories like splitters

Plus their warranty is 3x longer than CM's

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13 minutes ago, Slottr said:

Even if it's not solely for performance, their mounting is so easy, they give you great fans, thermal paste and even other little accessories like splitters

Plus their warranty is 3x longer than CM's

-Mounting on a lot of coolers is very easy Edit: forgot to mention 212 evo's mounting system is a$$ so noctua's will seem like 200 iq by comparison. Same with TR, FSP, Deepcool etc.

-Fans are subjective, plus the other brands like Thermalright, FSP, Deepcool fans (not Scythe) are pretty quiet

-I'd be more concerned if thermal paste wasn't included with the cooler

-Warranty for a cpu cooler. It's literally a metal block with a fan attached to it. Works the first time, works forever. 

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1 minute ago, hello_there_123 said:

-Mounting on a lot of coolers is very easy

-Fans are subjective, plus the other brands like Thermalright, FSP, Deepcool fans (not Scythe) are pretty quiet

-I'd be more concerned if thermal paste wasn't included with the cooler

-Warranty for a cpu cooler. It's literally a metal block with a fan attached to it. Works the first time, works forever. 

Fans are mechanical that's not definite 

 

Though I agree with what you're saying, just in my experience compared to the 212 and others I found noctuas mounting system the easiest of the bunch

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the heatsink of the Noctua cooler should be better than that of the Hyper 212, with fin density and so on. I doubt if the performance gains will be that big though

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You won't see much, if any, benefit going to the U12s, but should get significantly lower (~4-5 degrees) temps going to the U12a. All the reviews get different results, but here is one with the U12a and the CM Hyper 212 (with one fan):

 

https://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/noctua_nh_u12a_review,7.html

 

I'd give a extra degree or two for the additional fan on the Hyper 212. Of course, you can do  your own tests and see what difference the second fan makes on the Hyper 212.

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If we are talking about coolers between different Noctua models alone, NH-U12A is just another form of NH-D15S in term of performance and compatibility, but it's more expensive than NH-D15S, so the NH-U12A is useless when we still have NH-D15S which has same versatile compatibility, it's only shorter between their heights: 158mm vs 160mm

 

Any of Thermalright top air coolers will simply beat Noctua coolers value.

 

In my country the Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT only costs $4.50 more than NH-U12S price ($64.5 vs $60 USD) while it perform same or slightly better than NH-D15. So the El Macho is the King of Air Coolers for me. I personally would choose El Macho all day.

 

Get any better 212 ones with the best value of performance and aesthetic at the same time, since your CPU doesn't need any of top tier air coolers.

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CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K, 5GHz Delidded LM || CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C14S w/ NF-A15 & NF-A14 Chromax fans in push-pull cofiguration || Motherboard: MSI Z370i Gaming Pro Carbon AC || RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2x8Gb 2666 || GPU: EVGA GTX 1060 6Gb FTW2+ DT || Storage: Samsung 860 Evo M.2 SATA SSD 250Gb, 2x 2.5" HDDs 1Tb & 500Gb || ODD: 9mm Slim DVD RW || PSU: Corsair SF600 80+ Platinum || Case: Cougar QBX + 1x Noctua NF-R8 front intake + 2x Noctua NF-F12 iPPC top exhaust + Cougar stock 92mm DC fan rear exhaust || Monitor: ASUS VG248QE || Keyboard: Ducky One 2 Mini Cherry MX Red || Mouse: Logitech G703 || Audio: Corsair HS70 Wireless || Other: XBox One S Controler

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