Mid-range gaming build

[Daeudu]

Well, I'd like some sugestions on a mid-range gaming build, preferably with good upgrade possibilities. I can't give a exact price tag, as I live in Brazil and prices don't translate well.  

[Fasauceome]

If you want to be able to upgrade later, Ryzen is key. If you're looking for a budget build, consider a Ryzen 5 1600 and some DDR4 2666, and an RX 570.

 

Always use an SSD, always. Worth the extra cash.

[Daeudu]

Thank you. When it comes to the mobo, is there a huge difference between the 450 and the 470 chipsets? The price difference seems a bit too steep here.

[paddy-stone]

If you're just using it for a gaming build and doing a moderate-high OC, there are some b450 mobos that are well enough equipped for that... if you however want the absoloute best OC, and more features on the mobo, then x470 would be better.

[Fasauceome]

11 minutes ago, Daeudu said:

Thank you. When it comes to the mobo, is there a huge difference between the 450 and the 470 chipsets? The price difference seems a bit too steep here.

Not a huge difference, if you want premium features and better OC by a little then it's superior but for a budget build it has things you don't need.

[jerubedo]

1 hour ago, fasauceome said:

If you want to be able to upgrade later, Ryzen is key. If you're looking for a budget build, consider a Ryzen 5 1600 and some DDR4 2666, and an RX 570.

 

Always use an SSD, always. Worth the extra cash.

I wouldn't bank on upgradability with Ryzen. It's already looking like B350 boards won't support Ryzen 3000. See here:

 

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/ryzen-3000-cpu-motherboard-support

 

Since that article's publication there's still no update for most B350 boards (yet B450 boards have the update). Example:

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK.html

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-TOMAHAWK

 

So getting a B450 board right now might not guarantee upgradability for Ryzen 4000, especially with huge changes coming up such as DDR5 this year or next year, PCIe 5.0 coming out at the end of this year (leapfrogging PCIe 4.0), and USB 3.2. Those technologies might give the motherboard manufacturers more reasons to not develop new microcode for their older boards since the microcode would be very different between the two generations. 

[Daeudu]

I do understand that I could always wait a little and get something better. But if I did that I might never actually get something. I've read some reviews and such since I posted. Ryzen 5 with a 450 mobo seems the way to go. When it comes to GPU, is the RTX 2060 worth it? I'm looking for 1080p60 or maybe some light 1440p. I found some pretty sweet deals on RX 580's too.

Edited April 3, 2019 by Daeudu

[SliceT]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DjkYjy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DjkYjy/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($158.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler  ($39.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($66.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Red Devil Video Card  ($202.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar - MX340 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $823.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-03 15:50 EDT-0400

[Daeudu]

3 minutes ago, SliceT said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DjkYjy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DjkYjy/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($158.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler  ($39.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($66.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Red Devil Video Card  ($202.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar - MX340 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $823.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-03 15:50 EDT-0400

I might have a hard time finding those exact parts over here, but it sure helps to have a better idea what to look for. Thanks!

[ltc_]

Hey, I'm in Brasil too, and since the PSU in my old build died taking with it everything but the SSD and HDDs I'm pricing new parts on MercadoLivre right now.

So far I've got:

PSU: Corsair RM750x R$ 849,65

MB: Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Elite R$ 1319,90

RAM: Gskill RipJaws V 2x8GB DDR4 3000 (F4-3000C15D-16GVKB) R$ 679

CPU: Intel i5 9600k R$ 1599

Cooler: Deepcool Gammaxx 400 R$ 148,04

VGA: Gigabyte WindForce OC RTX 2060 R$ 2099,90

All these parts are available in 12 monthly instalments, interest free, on credit-card.

 

If this seems too expensive for you drop me a word telling how many Bolsonaros you've got and I'll adjust the build for you accordingly.

[Daeudu]

Just now, ltc_ said:

Hey, I'm in Brasil too, and since the PSU in my old build died taking with it everything but the SSD and HDDs I'm pricing new parts on MercadoLivre right now.

So far I've got:

PSU: Corsair RM750x R$ 849,65

MB: Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Elite R$ 1319,90

RAM: Gskill RipJaws V 2x8GB DDR4 3000 (F4-3000C15D-16GVKB) R$ 679

CPU: Intel i5 9600k R$ 1599

Cooler: Deepcool Gammaxx 400 R$ 148,04

VGA: RTX 2060 R$ 2099,90

All these parts are available in 12 monthly instalments, interest free, on credit-card.

 

If this seems too expensive for you drop me a word telling how many Bolsonaros you've got and I'll adjust the build for you accordingly.

I'd really like to give AMD a chance, I haven't done so in a while. The build you chose is just about what I expected to spend. I do have a good PSU and storage that I could use.

[ltc_]

15 hours ago, Daeudu said:

I'd really like to give AMD a chance, I haven't done so in a while. The build you chose is just about what I expected to spend. I do have a good PSU and storage that I could use.

If your build will be used in some professional application that you know benefits from an increased thread-count, by all means go with AMD. But if gaming is the most intensive task that your build will encounter Intel options are still superior.

Should you choose AMD, the newer generation chips are the way to go, so R7 2700 instead of R7 1700.

You'll have to buy the most expensive RAM you can get your hands on and overclock the R7 to 4.2 GHz to get the most out of it. It will stil lag any 9th gen K series in most games, both in decreased FPS and increased frametimes.

Full disclosure: there are a few games on the market right now that perform badly on anything with less than 8 threads, Far Cry 5 is the one usually mentioned. If I cared for these games I'd still go with a 8700k instead of any R7.