Under performing PC (Help)

[MarshallL]

ffs this isnt exactly what I wanting to hear.

[NunoLava1998]

1 minute ago, MarshallL said:

ffs this isnt exactly what I wanting to hear.

Sorry man.

This will bottleneck less and should give you atleast 1050 ti - 1060 performance meanwhile, if you OC you can probably get full performance

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($84.87 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($46.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $196.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-28 16:32 EDT-0400

(still ATX)

[Caleb SF]

2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Could totally go for R5 2600 at $160, 8GB and an $80 B450 board.

He wants to play Arma 3 and I'm not sure if 8Gb is enough for it.

[MarshallL]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

250$ will be enough. This can OC fairly well. (ATX)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($132.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($46.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $244.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-28 16:31 EDT-0400

 

so I cant use any RAM that I already have? is there differences in slots?

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, MarshallL said:

so I cant use any RAM that I already have? is there differences in slots?

There is a difference in slots, DDR3 and DDR4 is absolutely incompatible

Look to the new build I suggested, 50$ cheaper but it'll still bottleneck a bit even if you OC. Much, much less than your current CPU however.

[.Apex.]

7 minutes ago, MarshallL said:

My fucking pockets are empty mate. Just bought the pc pre built and got the new GPU to boost it a bit so that all cost about 900£. 

wait wait wait, you JUST bought the PC Prebuilt? as in new? that CPU was made in 2010

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, MarshallL said:

so I cant use any RAM that I already have? is there differences in slots?

Slots are physically different, no go.

[MarshallL]

3 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

wait wait wait, you JUST bought the PC Prebuilt? as in new? that CPU was made in 2010

well shit...

[NunoLava1998]

1 minute ago, MarshallL said:

well shit...

I'd return it lol

[.Apex.]

3 minutes ago, MarshallL said:

well shit...

[MarshallL]

Well thanks for opening my eyes guys, going to ask the bloke for ME F***ING money back and give him the PC and start from scratch

[NunoLava1998]

1 minute ago, MarshallL said:

Well thanks for opening my eyes guys, going to ask the bloke for ME F***ING money back and give him the PC and start from scratch

not sure if uk or australia

[.Apex.]

Just now, MarshallL said:

Well thanks for opening my eyes guys, going to ask the bloke for ME F***ING money back and give him the PC and start from scratch

You really should.. keep the GTX 1070 though, come back here and ask people for help if you need it

[MarshallL]

UK, and ye the 1070 nearly cost what I paid for the rest of the PC so not selling it

 

[trevb0t]

Okay, let's condense info a little bit here:

 

1. You bought a prebuilt 2010 computer and a GTX 1070 and it cost you 900£ ???? Can you return any of that? 900£ should buy you a perfectly game-worthy computer. Not a junkyard lemon.

 

2. If keeping this gear is the route you choose, you will need a CPU upgrade to make your 1070 reach anywhere near potential. As described, this will cost at LEAST $250 if not more, since for a new CPU, a new motherboard is needed, and with a new motherboard, you'll need an upgrade in RAM to DDR4.

 

I know there is a trend online to buy a $50 pc from the office down the street and throw a newer GPU into it, but this is far too extreme as both the CPU in the PC is ridiculously underpowered, and the GPU purchased is extremely overpowered.

 

I suggest a return on the GPU (all of it if you can!), then build a computer yourself with a budget of 800-900. It will put you into very playable framerates on brand new game titles!

 

[.Apex.]

3 minutes ago, MarshallL said:

Well thanks for opening my eyes guys, going to ask the bloke for ME F***ING money back and give him the PC and start from scratch

Depends on how much you paid for the GTX 1070 ofc, if you overpaid for it then return it as well.

[MarshallL]

paid for the whole pc     AMD Phenom II X6 1100T    31 °C
    Thuban 45nm Technology
RAM
    16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 803MHz (11-11-11-28)
Motherboard
    ASUSTeK Computer INC. M5A88-M EVO (AM3R2)    34 °C
Graphics
    GN246HL (1920x1080@60Hz)
    4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (ASUStek Computer Inc)    44 °C
Storage
    223GB ADATA SU650 ATA Device (SATA (SSD))    33 °C
    465GB Seagate ST3500312CS ATA Device (SATA )    30 °C
    465GB Seagate ST3500312CS ATA Device (SATA )    30 °C

 

That cost £450 and then I got a new GTX 1070 for £330 so £780, with the £900 added in the new monitor I got too

[.Apex.]

2 minutes ago, MarshallL said:

That cost £450

450 Euro are you fucking kidding me? he ripped you off man..
 

2 minutes ago, MarshallL said:

GTX 1070 for £330

330 euro is "okay" but you can get a GTX 1660 for 200 Euro and that's on par or slightly behind the GTX 1070 in performance.

[trevb0t]

3 minutes ago, MarshallL said:

UK, and ye the 1070 nearly cost what I paid for the rest of the PC so not selling it

Frankly with a new build, if 900 is your cap, I'd return it and go with a used 970 or 980 if you can.

Save the cash on performance you're frankly not going to be using.

 

The 1070 is beast to be sure, but if you don't have a 1440p monitor, or a high refresh rate 1080p... You're just throwing more power at it than you need to. Those monitors are $300 USD minimum.

[trevb0t]

4 minutes ago, MarshallL said:

paid for the whole pc     AMD Phenom II X6 1100T    31 °C
    Thuban 45nm Technology
RAM
    16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 803MHz (11-11-11-28)
Motherboard
    ASUSTeK Computer INC. M5A88-M EVO (AM3R2)    34 °C
Graphics
    GN246HL (1920x1080@60Hz)
    4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (ASUStek Computer Inc)    44 °C
Storage
    223GB ADATA SU650 ATA Device (SATA (SSD))    33 °C
    465GB Seagate ST3500312CS ATA Device (SATA )    30 °C
    465GB Seagate ST3500312CS ATA Device (SATA )    30 °C

 

That cost £450 and then I got a new GTX 1070 for £330 so £780, with the £900 added in the new monitor I got too

Fair enough. 330 for the 1070 isn't awful. With that 450 you should be golden to build the rest if you budget as shown. What resolution is the monitor?

[MarshallL]

AH ye and to the shit list the 144hz monitor i got only runs 60hz

[trevb0t]

My dude, a simple googling on any of this gear would've poked some serious holes in this. I do recommend in the future.

(I don't mean to sound harsh. I've been scammed before.)

 

I sincerely hope this guy refunds you. $200 for a 60mhz 1080p monitor is also a junk deal. 

A used one around here runs for like $30-40

[191x7]

3 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

450 Euro are you fucking kidding me? he ripped you Zoffman..
 

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£450 is way more than 450€, it's in British Pounds, not Euros.

He paid like 3 to 4 times the actual worth of the old PC.

[Dissitesuxba11s]

1 minute ago, MarshallL said:

AH ye and to the shit list the 144hz monitor i got only runs 60hz

Which one do you have? More than likely, you just have to set it up first to enable 144Hz.

[MarshallL]

3 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

Fair enough. 330 for the 1070 isn't awful. With that 450 you should be golden to build the rest if you budget as shown. What resolution is the monitor?

1920 x 1080 but i got it as 144hz but it only runs at 60hz.