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MarshallL

Hi,

So I have just upgraded my GPU from a GTX 1050 TI to a GTX 1070.

First time playing a game (ARMA 3) with the new card and I change the settings and my monitor turns off and the GPU fans get stuck on full. I try again and go on the game and it works but the FPS is the same as the 1050 and its only about 20-30 FPs.

I dont really know why its under performing, I checked power usage on cooler masters site and it says 480w and I use a 500w PSU. Any and all help is really appreciated.

 

Thanks

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If I had to guess, I'd say your CPU is bottlenecking it.

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Im not really read up on whats good and bad. I take it thats shit from the reply

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1 minute ago, Caleb SF said:

Your CPU is a bottleneck, your 1050ti wasn't the problem, it was the cpu.

Ye so, wa da mean.

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Yeah that's pretty rough. Shoot for a Ryzen 2400g at least.

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That CPU is shit.

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1 minute ago, MarshallL said:

Ye so, wa da mean.

Your CPU is complete shit, and you're pairing it with a high end GPU. You need to upgrade to a Ryzen 5.

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3 minutes ago, MarshallL said:

Ye so, wa da mean.

Pretty much that your CPU is limiting your GPU's power. So in order to resolve that, you may have to upgrade your CPU. The problem is also that that cpu uses am3 socket. Which limits which cpu you can buy.

 

Unless you buy a new motherboard as well as a new cpu.

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https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-8100-vs-AMD-Phenom-II-X6-1100T/3942vs2004 

My i3-8100 SOMETIMES gets bottle necked by my 1060 and your CPU is almost half as good as mine and your GPU is better. Its a clear bottleneck.

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Ah right well thanks. Now I just have to figure out how to change a CPU.

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Just now, MarshallL said:

Ah right well thanks. Now I just have to figure out how to change a CPU.

For this one, you'll need a new motherboard, memory along with the CPU. Your platform is also quite dated.

What's your maximum budget for all of this?

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11 minutes ago, MarshallL said:

I checked power usage on cooler masters site and it says 480w and I use a 500w PSU.

We should probably address some of the problems here as well. First of all, PSU calculators are craptastic, don't trust. Second, what's the make and model of your PSU?

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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1 minute ago, MarshallL said:

Ah right well thanks. Now I just have to figure out how to change a CPU.

New motherboard, new ram, new cpu

QUOTE ME IF YOU WANT A REPLY!

 

PC #1

Ryzen 7 3700x@4.4ghz (All core) | MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon | Crucial Ballistix 2x16gb (OC 3600mhz)

MSI GTX 1080 8gb | SoundBlaster ZXR | Corsair HX850

Samsung 960 256gb | Samsung 860 1gb | Samsung 850 500gb

HGST 4tb, HGST 2tb | Seagate 2tb | Seagate 2tb

Custom CPU/GPU water loop

 

PC #2

Ryzen 7 1700@3.8ghz (All core) | Aorus AX370 Gaming K5 | Vengeance LED 3200mhz 2x8gb

Sapphire R9 290x 4gb | Asus Xonar DS | Corsair RM650

Samsung 850 128gb | Intel 240gb | Seagate 2tb

Corsair H80iGT AIO

 

Laptop

Core i7 6700HQ | Samsung 2400mhz 2x8gb DDR4

GTX 1060M 3gb | FiiO E10k DAC

Samsung 950 256gb | Sandisk Ultra 2tb SSD

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Just now, MarshallL said:

Ah right well thanks. Now I just have to figure out how to change a CPU.

Changing the cpu is pretty easy, but you may need to consider buying a new motherboard, as the socket your cpu is using is old. I'd stay away from the AMD FX series, look into ryzen or i5's?

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3 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

For this one, you'll need a new motherboard, memory along with the CPU. Your platform is also quite dated.

What's your maximum budget for all of this?

My fucking pockets are empty mate. Just bought the pc pre built and got the new GPU to boost it a bit so that all cost about 900£. 

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How much do you guys reckon it would cost for a motherboard, memory and cpu that are suitable? 

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2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

We should probably address some of the problems here as well. First of all, PSU calculators are craptastic, don't trust. Second, what's the make and model of your PSU?

ATX switching power supply Model: A-500BR

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Just now, MarshallL said:

How much do you guys reckon it would cost for a motherboard, memory and cpu that are suitable? 

Mmm, cpu is ~$100, 16gb ram ~$100, and a new mobo could be between $50-100.

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Just now, MarshallL said:

ATX switching power supply Model: A-500BR

Cheapo EVGA model, not amazing but it's not a disaster waiting to happen at least. 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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1 minute ago, Caleb SF said:

Mmm, cpu is ~$100, 16gb ram ~$100, and a new mobo could be between $50-100.

Could totally go for R5 2600 at $160, 8GB and an $80 B450 board.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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3 minutes ago, MarshallL said:

My fucking pockets are empty mate.

250$ will be enough. This can OC fairly well. (ATX)

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Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($46.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $244.77
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