I need some help building PC

[PaltzisNorth]

Hi, excuse me for my poor English, it's not my mother language. 
My current PC is very old and suck massively (gt430 and 3 cores Athlon II-something 2.7 Ghz), and i want to buy a new one. My budget is pretty low (about 500-550 US$), obviously i don't aim for any 4k60fps ultra settings, 30+fps 1080p low-normal settings would be more than enough for me. I never build a PC, but i surf Internet and found rx 560 and ryzen 3 1200 combo, which i can afford. Is it any good and can i run modern games on it? I already have 1Tb hard drive, monitor, fans and case, all i need is motherboard, GPU, CPU and RAM (i already have 8 Gigs but it is also pretty old, DDR2 1333 i believe).
Can you help me please? 

[NunoLava1998]

For 500-550$, a r3 1200 + rx 560 is really bad

 

CPU+RAM+GPU+Motherboard+2TB SSD+450W PSU for 530$:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($134.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($46.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 2 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($219.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $525.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-23 08:05 EDT-0400

 

GPU is Vega 11, it comes with the CPU.

At this point you're just missing a case

[.Apex.]

3 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

For 500-550$, a r3 1200 + rx 560 is really bad

 

CPU+RAM+GPU+Motherboard+2TB SSD+450W PSU for 530$:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($134.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($46.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 2 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($219.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $525.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-23 08:05 EDT-0400

 

GPU is Vega 11, it comes with the CPU.

At this point you're just missing a case

What the hell? why spend so much on the SSD?  and Vega 11 is weaker than RX 560

[kelvinhall05]

2 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

For 500-550$, a r3 1200 + rx 560 is really bad

 

CPU+RAM+GPU+Motherboard+2TB SSD+450W PSU for 530$:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($134.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($46.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 2 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($219.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $525.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-23 08:05 EDT-0400

 

GPU is Vega 11, it comes with the CPU.

At this point you're just missing a case

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Why would you spend half his budget on an SSD? That's ridiculous. He doesn't need 2TB of SSD storage in a budget build. A 120GB SSD will suffice, especially since he already has a 1TB HDD.

 

I would spend that extra $150 on a case, cooler, and more RAM (or just faster RAM).

[.Apex.]

Since he already has a 1TB hard drive then just spend 30-50 dollars on a 240-250GB SSD and the rest on the GTX 1660

[NunoLava1998]

1 minute ago, _Syn_ said:

What the hell? why spend so much on the SSD?  and Vega 11 is weaker than RX 560

 

Just now, kelvinhall05 said:

Why would you spend half his budget on an SSD? That's ridiculous. He doesn't need 2TB of SSD storage in a budget build. A 120GB SSD will suffice, especially since he already has a 1TB HDD.

 

I would spend that extra $150 on a case, cooler, and more RAM (or just faster RAM).

yeah

 

For 570$ this is much better and is a full PC, although only a 512GB SSD:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($84.78 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($46.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($69.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8 GB PULSE Video Card  ($199.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($42.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $568.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-23 08:10 EDT-0400

[kelvinhall05]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

 

yeah

 

For 570$ this is much better and is a full PC, although only a 512GB SSD:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($84.78 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($46.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($69.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8 GB PULSE Video Card  ($199.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($42.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $568.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-23 08:10 EDT-0400

Dude...it's a $500 build. Why would you get a large SSD? A 120GB/240GB is fine. OP can then put that extra money toward faster RAM. Ryzen really benefits from that.

[NunoLava1998]

1 minute ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Dude...it's a $500 build. Why would you get a large SSD? A 120GB/240GB is fine. OP can then put that extra money toward faster RAM. Ryzen really benefits from that.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($84.78 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($55.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($49.95 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8 GB PULSE Video Card  ($199.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($42.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $557.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-23 08:15 EDT-0400

[kelvinhall05]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($84.78 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($55.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($49.95 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8 GB PULSE Video Card  ($199.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($42.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $557.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-23 08:15 EDT-0400

Yes, that's a much more balanced build.

 

OP, out of the builds in this thread, I'd recommend this one the most.

[.Apex.]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$134.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$89.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$55.88 @ OutletPC
Storage	Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$29.97 @ Amazon
Video Card	Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8 GB PULSE Video Card	$199.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$39.88 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$585.50
	Mail-in rebates	-$35.00
	Total	$550.50
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-23 08:19 EDT-0400

Come on guys he already has a Case

[.Apex.]

I recommend even just spending a tiinnyy bit more and going with a Ryzen 5 2600, it's a decent/big jump in performance.

[PaltzisNorth]

Thank you all so much!
I am so glad that i asked here before buying.
I have another question. Do i really need SSD? They seems pretty expensive. I mean, what kind of stuff i need to store on it? Games nowadays use a lot of space, on 240Gb i can store like 6-8 games, but also i suppose i need to store OS, Windows 10 also use a lot of space, right now i have 100Gb allocated to it and half of it is just OS crap. As i said, i never built a PC neither never used a SSD. Maybe dumb question, sorry.

[PaltzisNorth]

45 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($84.78 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($55.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($49.95 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8 GB PULSE Video Card  ($199.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($42.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $557.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-23 08:15 EDT-0400

Thank you, i think i will stick to that. As i said, i already have my old case, and i better spend extra 40 dollars to buy this CPU:

 

39 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

I recommend even just spending a tiinnyy bit more and going with a Ryzen 5 2600, it's a decent/big jump in performance.

 

[.Apex.]

7 minutes ago, PaltzisNorth said:

I have another question. Do i really need SSD? They seems pretty expensive. I mean, what kind of stuff i need to store on it? Games nowadays use a lot of space, on 240Gb i can store like 6-8 games, but also i suppose i need to store OS, Windows 10 also use a lot of space, right now i have 100Gb allocated to it and half of it is just OS crap. As i said, i never built a PC neither never used a SSD. Maybe dumb question, sorry. 

Don't be sorry, and the SSD is mainly for the OS, so it would boot alot faster and be more responsive in general, you would still need to store all your games on your 1TB hard drive.

[NunoLava1998]

10 minutes ago, PaltzisNorth said:

Thank you all so much!
I am so glad that i asked here before buying.
I have another question. Do i really need SSD? They seems pretty expensive. I mean, what kind of stuff i need to store on it? Games nowadays use a lot of space, on 240Gb i can store like 6-8 games, but also i suppose i need to store OS, Windows 10 also use a lot of space, right now i have 100Gb allocated to it and half of it is just OS crap. As i said, i never built a PC neither never used a SSD. Maybe dumb question, sorry.

Please get an SSD. Especially with an old PC like yours, an SSD will be the single greatest change you can make to your computer. Your computer booted in 2 minutes? Try about 5 seconds now. Your computer made a lot of noise (from the HDD)? It's completely gone. Your programs took 1-2 seconds to open? Now they're nearly instant. Your desktop takes 30 seconds or even up to 2 minutes with especially slow HDDs to be usable? Now it's usable, completely instantly.

[PaltzisNorth]

Just now, _Syn_ said:

Don't be sorry, and the SSD is mainly for the OS, so it would boot alot faster and be more responsive in general, you would still need to store all your games on your 1TB hard drive.

Oh, thank you. I reinstall my OS yearly and it rarely take more than 10-15 seconds to be fully operable. To be fair, i don't mind about boot time, usually i don't even turn it off, just put it into sleep mode. Maybe i'll buy an SSD later.

[.Apex.]

Just now, PaltzisNorth said:

Oh, thank you. I reinstall my OS yearly and it rarely take more than 10-15 seconds to be fully operable. To be fair, i don't mind about boot time, usually i don't even turn it off, just put it into sleep mode. Maybe i'll buy an SSD later.

It's up to you man if you wanna focus more on CPU and GPU, but it wouldn't feel like a new PC until you get an SSD, it's not only about boot time.

[PaltzisNorth]

3 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

Please get an SSD. Especially with an old PC like yours, an SSD will be the single greatest change you can make to your computer. Your computer booted in 2 minutes? Try about 5 seconds now. Your computer made a lot of noise (from the HDD)? It's completely gone. Your programs took 1-2 seconds to open? Now they're nearly instant. Your desktop takes 30 seconds or even up to 2 minutes with especially slow HDDs to be usable? Now it's usable, completely instantly.

Yeah, i understand all of that, but since i am really tight on budget, i think i can buy SSD later

[.Apex.]

Just now, PaltzisNorth said:

Yeah, i understand all of that, but since i am really tight on budget, i think i can buy SSD later

I agree, and it won't affect gaming performance incase you were wondering, just the loading part

[NunoLava1998]

1 minute ago, PaltzisNorth said:

Yeah, i understand all of that, but since i am really tight on budget, i think i can buy SSD later

A 120GB SSD is 19.99$...

 

also please help

[PaltzisNorth]

Thank you all again, guys.
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[NunoLava1998]

1 minute ago, PaltzisNorth said:

Thank you all again, guys.
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