FPS DROP BOTTLENECK ????

[Lloyd P Geronimo]

Hello everyone I am new in this forum..... Guys I have my new pc the specs are A8 7680 AND PALIT GTX 1050 TI STORM X AND A 4GB DDR3 RAM 1600 MHZ WINDOWS 10 64 BIT OS all of my games are fps drop the one has severe fps drop is gta 5 even on lowest settings so please help me because I see all the bench and in YouTube with a8 7600 and gtx 1050  8gb ram  no fps drop help me guys  

[Fasauceome]

4GB of ram is its own issue, that's quite small. Also, you have to make sure you have the same graphics settings as the online benchmarks, or else you'll get different results.

 

Also, what's with the Emojis?

[Turtle Rig]

21 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

4GB of ram is its own issue, that's quite small. Also, you have to make sure you have the same graphics settings as the online benchmarks, or else you'll get different results.

 

Also, what's with the Emojis?

What does he mean by FPS drop.  Every game does that.  Can you tell us numbers on what FPS you get then the sudden drop FPS and what not ?  Also does this happen in every game ?

[LogicWeasel]

27 minutes ago, Lloyd P Geronimo said:

specs are A8 7680 AND PALIT GTX 1050 TI STORM X AND A 4GB DDR3 RAM 1600 MHZ WINDOWS 10 64 BIT OS all of my games are fps drop the one has severe fps drop is gta 5 even on lowest settings so please help me because I see all the bench and in YouTube with a8 7600 and gtx 1050  8gb ram  no fps drop

You'll want to make sure you're using the newest driver from NVIDIA for your GTX 1050 Ti and that your Windows 10 power plan is set to "High Performance".  Otherwise unless you have a bunch of background programs/bloatware running may want to check that an overactive antivirus isn't getting involved (could try turning it off or making sure it isn't scanning or updating while trying to play).

 

Fasauseome is right that 4GB of ram is lean and the game recommends having 8GB instead.

Be advised that while your GPU is good enough for 1080p gaming (may not be 60+ fps constant however), that CPU is underpowered and doesn't measure up to the recommended CPU for GTA 5.  It is just a notch above the minimum CPUs listed and for a game GTA 5's age, that's not good.

Edited March 11, 2019 by LogicWeasel

[Turtle Rig]

The 4GB of ram will cause stutters which will reduce your FPS.  You have a bottleneck with the RAM and Im guessing you don't have a SSD either.  So you already dug a hole for yourself.  With your CPU and GPU you should see 60fps but you will have drops.  What kind of drops are you getting ?  Give us some numbers or estimates.

[Lloyd P Geronimo]

8 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

The 4GB of ram will cause stutters which will reduce your FPS.  You have a bottleneck with the RAM and Im guessing you don't have a SSD either.  So you already dug a hole for yourself.  With your CPU and GPU you should see 60fps but you will have drops.  What kind of drops are you getting ?  Give us some numbers or estimates.

Example in gta 5 I have 60 fps ultra and sometimes it drops to 20 30 40 to 60 

[Lloyd P Geronimo]

11 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

You'll want to make sure you're using the newest driver from NVIDIA for your GTX 1050 Ti and that your Windows 10 power plan is set to "High Performance".  Otherwise unless you have a bunch of background programs/bloatware running may want to check that an overactive antivirus isn't getting involved (could try turning it off or making sure it isn't scanning or updating while trying to play).

 

Fasauseome is right that 4GB of ram is lean and the game recommends having 8GB instead.

Be advised that while your GPU is good enough for 1080p gaming (may not be 60+ fps constant however), that CPU is underpowered and doesn't measure up to the recommended CPU for GTA 5.  It is just a notch above the minimum CPUs listed and for a game GTA 5's age, that's not good.

My driver are all updated set to high ️ performance and  I off my antivirus and guess what still fps drop please help me  

[Turtle Rig]

3 minutes ago, Lloyd P Geronimo said:

My driver are all updated set to high ️ performance and  I off my antivirus and guess what still fps drop please help me  

When was the FPS not dropping ?  Or it always has ever since you build the pc ?

[Turtle Rig]

You keep talking about GTA 5, is there any other game you play that does this ?

[Turtle Rig]

Try to dial down the in game settings a bit.  Your system wasn't meant to use Ultra high.

[BetterThanLife]

CPU is very slow and a lack of system memory.

[Lloyd P Geronimo]

3 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

When was the FPS not dropping ?  Or it always has ever since you build the pc ?

Yes its all brand new and its getting fps drop but I deleted my avast anti virus the fps drop reduce as well because I have two anti virus and all my game is fps drop not just gta 5 

[Lloyd P Geronimo]

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

Try to dial down the in game settings a bit.  Your system wasn't meant to use Ultra high.

Even on low settings I got fps drop but slightly  

[Turtle Rig]

3 minutes ago, Lloyd P Geronimo said:

Even on low settings I got fps drop but slightly  

Does the FPS drop in the same in game scenerio.  For example if you stand at a certain point in the map, your FPS is 60fps then it goes down to 20fps ?  Or does it dip when theres lots of stuff happening on a screen.  In GTA 5 in a small room  youll get your 60fps but once theres action and larger map it will dip.  20fps is absurdly low.  Also have you touched the nVidia panel ?  Make sure vsync is off or set to application.  One thing we can try for the hell of it is to boot into safe mode and run DDU "Display Driver Uninstaller" choose clean and reboot then you will be booted back into normal mode.  Now go ahead and install the latest WHQL drivers and let us know.

[LogicWeasel]

8 minutes ago, Lloyd P Geronimo said:

I deleted my avast anti virus the fps drop reduce as well because I have two anti virus and all my game is fps drop not just gta 5 

You should NEVER run two antivirus programs, that's how you create gridlock on your computer.  Do yourself a favor and consider common-sense and good judgement your 1st antivirus, and let your installed antivirus be the 2nd line of defence.  It doesn't make you safer to let your CPU get bogged down while two AV's fight it out for control of your resources.

[Turtle Rig]

Just now, LogicWeasel said:

You should NEVER run two antivirus programs, that's how you create gridlock on your computer.  Do yourself a favor and consider common-sense and good judgement your 1st antivirus, and let your installed antivirus be the 2nd line of defence.  It doesn't make you safer to let your CPU get bogged down while two AV's fight it out for control of your resources.

I have shi*T load of stuff in my tray ,, 20 of them.  but all my malware apps and windows defender real time protection is turned off.  Even on SSD if you have real time protection everything you launch will have a delay as it first checks for viruses.  Instead what I do is when I download something I right click the file and scan it with defender with malware apps ,, then I launch it.

[Lloyd P Geronimo]

3 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Does the FPS drop in the same in game scenerio.  For example if you stand at a certain point in the map, your FPS is 60fps then it goes down to 20fps ?  Or does it dip when theres lots of stuff happening on a screen.  In GTA 5 in a small room  youll get your 60fps but once theres action and larger map it will dip.  20fps is absurdly low.  Also have you touched the nVidia panel ?  Make sure vsync is off or set to application.  One thing we can try for the hell of it is to boot into safe mode and run DDU "Display Driver Uninstaller" choose clean and reboot then you will be booted back into normal mode.  Now go ahead and install the latest WHQL drivers and let us know.

Yes when I'm in house I got 60 fps no drop but in city it drop

[Turtle Rig]

Just now, Lloyd P Geronimo said:

Yes when I'm in house I got 60 fps no drop but in city it drop

That is what I needed to know.  You have no issues.  Your CPU is holding back the GPU, and your GPU is holding back itself!  The only thing I can suggest is try running the game at 1400x900 resolution and see if that 20fps will turn into 40fps, and the 40fps will be 60fps.

[Lloyd P Geronimo]

11 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

That is what I needed to know.  You have no issues.  Your CPU is holding back the GPU, and your GPU is holding back itself!  The only thing I can suggest is try running the game at 1400x900 resolution and see if that 20fps will turn into 40fps, and the 40fps will be 60fps.

Bro even in 1080 p still fps drop bro  

[Turtle Rig]

3 minutes ago, Lloyd P Geronimo said:

Bro even in 1080 p still fps drop bro  

Yes Im asking you to try 1400x900.   That will give you a huge performance boost.

[VillaiNPC]

Run https://www.userbenchmark.com/ and see how much background CPU usage you have.

[Lloyd P Geronimo]

11 minutes ago, Lloyd P Geronimo said:

Bro even in 1080 p still fps drop bro  

But I'm wondering if I upgrade to 8gb it will reduce fps drop  

[Atmos]

1 hour ago, Lloyd P Geronimo said:

Yes when I'm in house I got 60 fps no drop but in city it drop

First. your biggest problem is that 4gbs of ram. Your system will easily eat through 1.5-2gbs of it, leaving only 2gbs roughly for your games, when most games will readily use more than 4-6gbs of ram. Upgrade to 8gbs of ram ASAP.

 

Second, Your cpu is quite old, and not nearly enough to run games on even high settings let alone ultra. It will struggle in modern games regardless of settings.

 

Thirdly, the 1050ti is great performance for the dollar, but doesnt mean its just flat great performance. Medium settings in most games will get you by so long as its not being throttled by the cpu and ram. Resolve the major ram issue and the cpu will be able to run a lot better. However rather soon you're going to run into issues with the cpu, and get a lot of fps drops and slowdowns because of it, even if you had unlimited gpu and ram performance.

 

[LogicWeasel]

1 hour ago, Lloyd P Geronimo said:

Bro even in 1080 p still fps drop bro

Yeah we know your FPS is bad, that's why he suggested you try to reduce the burden (by running the game on a lower detail resolution) on your already very underpowered PC.  If you aren't willing to lower the settings than newer hardware is the answer to getting GTA 5 playable.

[Lloyd P Geronimo]

2 hours ago, LogicWeasel said:

Yeah we know your FPS is bad, that's why he suggested you try to reduce the burden (by running the game on a lower detail resolution) on your already very underpowered PC.  If you aren't willing to lower the settings than newer hardware is the answer to getting GTA 5 playable.

I will set my Resolution to 900 later