Please help me pick one

[TNU_Chaleur]

I have the money for an i9 and i also stream while playing games.

I was a bad CPU(xeon e1225 v3) right now that bottle necks the crap out of my GPU(RTX 2070)

I want a simple upgrade so i can stream while playing at max performance guaranteed 60FPS on high settings which i know the 2070 can crush on any game.

My options are

i9 9900k ddr3 vs ryzen 2700 ddr4

i9 is expensive and i know but im happy to buy it.

that ryzeb 2700 is good but i need a lot of CPU power.

someone help me decide. 

[Stormseeker9]

For multitasking what you want to do opt for the 2700x with a B450 Board from MSI or a X470 if you want to do heavier OC. 

 

You can at least upgrade down the line to a 3000 series AMD without having to buy a new motherboard again. 

[wron]

If you plan on streaming on the same rig as playing the games r7 2700 may be not the best, I would go for something like i7 9700k or like you suggested i9 9900k

[Aimi]

I'd love to see a 9900k running with DDR3, if you could pull that off somehow.

[NunoLava1998]

4 minutes ago, wron said:

If you plan on streaming on the same rig as playing the games r7 2700 may be not the best, I would go for something like i7 9700k or like you suggested i9 9900k

The Ryzen 7 is much better in multi-core (which streaming heavily relies upon), what are you talking about? 

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Aimi said:

I'd love to see a 9900k running with DDR3, if you could pull that off somehow.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H310M-DS2V-DDR3-rev-10#kf

boom.

(although it's not recommended in the slightest, never use a 9900k with H310)

[TNU_Chaleur]

5 minutes ago, wron said:

If you plan on streaming on the same rig as playing the games r7 2700 may be not the best, I would go for something like i7 9700k or like you suggested i9 9900k

okay thanks. i have a b350m i got from a sponsorship for the Ryzen but i have to unplug my whole pc in order to install the motherboard.

[TNU_Chaleur]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H310M-DS2V-DDR3-rev-10#kf

boom.

(although it's not recommended in the slightest, never use a 9900k with H310)

why wont it work with ddr3? ddr3 is good but ill upgrade to 4 very soon. i just dont want to change mobo. its too much work

[NunoLava1998]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H310M-DS2V-DDR3-rev-10#kf

boom.

(although it's not recommended in the slightest, never use a 9900k with H310)

Not only does it support a 9900K, but they forgot to fucking hide the KF processors that aren't a thing yet

[NunoLava1998]

2 minutes ago, TNU_Chaleur said:

okay thanks. i have a b350m i got from a sponsorship for the Ryzen but i have to unplug my whole pc in order to install the motherboard.

The 2700 is better, but I'd probably get a better motherboard than that B350M

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

Not only does it support a 9900K, but they forgot to fucking hide the KF processors that aren't a thing yet

The F sku is available, remember the issue that they're the same price as the non-F?

3 minutes ago, TNU_Chaleur said:

why wont it work with ddr3? ddr3 is good but ill upgrade to 4 very soon. i just dont want to change mobo. its too much work

It works, but the motherboard you have to use is awful. A 9900T is better, when that's released. Or, if you're getting the most expensive 1151 CPU, get a decent board. DDR4 and DDR3 have different physical slots.

[TNU_Chaleur]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

The 2700 is better, but I'd probably get a better motherboard than that B350M

yes but my cpu and GPU are very good. i dont need to spend extra money of things that will cost way more money. My pc runs very well now. all i need is a CPU

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, TNU_Chaleur said:

yes but my cpu and GPU are very good. i dont need to spend extra money of things that will cost way more money. My pc runs very well now. all i need is a CPU

I wouldn't be surprised with such terrible VRMs that it would perform like a r5 or r3

[TNU_Chaleur]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

I wouldn't be surprised with such terrible VRMs that it would perform like a r5 or r3

i get easy 100fps with a xeon e1225 v3. i just want to stream.

[Aimi]

1 minute ago, TNU_Chaleur said:

yes but my cpu and GPU are very good. i dont need to spend extra money of things that will cost way more money. My pc runs very well now. all i need is a CPU

A 2700 and good B450M/X470 mobo is cheaper than the i9 on its own.

[wron]

5 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

The Ryzen 7 is much better in multi-core (which streaming heavily relies upon), what are you talking about? 

How ryzen 7 better than is i9 9900k performance wise? Maybe it will be better in multi-core but you still need some juice to run the actual game where i9 will be way better. Also, why not just get r7 2700x instead of 2700?

[Mister Woof]

Guys, OP is using a CPU from 2011. 

 

Given that history, I seriously doubt AM4 upgrade path is a legitimate selling point for this guy.

 

Chances he upgrades in 6 months to Ryzen 3000 are basically Zero.

[TNU_Chaleur]

2 minutes ago, Aimi said:

A 2700 and good B450M/X470 mobo is cheaper than the i9 on its own.

you guys are forgetting that i have to stream at 1080p 60fps.

and i also have to buy ddr4 ram for the mobo. i9 is so much easier.

[NunoLava1998]

1 minute ago, wron said:

How ryzen 7 better than is i9 9900k performance wise? Maybe it will be better in multi-core but you still need some juice to run the actual game where i9 will be way better. Also, why not just get r7 2700x instead of 2700?

i9 will be about 20% better(singlecore and multicore) but it costs the same as the ryzen + motherboard, plus is extremely hard to cool, and has a shitty upgrade path.

 

[Mister Woof]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

i9 will be about 20% better(singlecore and multicore) but it costs the same as the ryzen + motherboard, plus is extremely hard to cool, and has a shitty upgrade path.

 

Upgrade path is overrated.

 

Most people are like OP, and skip multiple generations, making "upgrade path" moot.

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, TNU_Chaleur said:

you guys are forgetting that i have to stream at 1080p 60fps.

and i also have to buy ddr4 ram for the mobo. i9 is so much easier.

The i9 will perform horribly with H310 (someone tried it and it was worse than the i5 iirc, please don't try it).

The i9 costs more, is extremely hard to cool and has a very bad upgrade path (as in, it's the final generation, 10th gen and beyond will need a new motherboard and probably DDR5 anyway). The Ryzen is easy to cool, cheap as fuck and has an amazing upgrade path that could potentially give him a better product than the 9900K.

Just now, Plutosaurus said:

Upgrade path is overrated.

 

Most people are like OP, and skip multiple generations.

If the Zen 2 leaks are true, he could upgrade to a R7/R9 and have significantly better performance compared to the 9900K multicore and singlecore.

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, TNU_Chaleur said:

i9 is so much easier.

how? you still need DDR4 and a decent motherboard.

[Mister Woof]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

The i9 will perform horribly with H310 (someone tried it and it was worse than the i5 iirc, please don't try it).

The i9 costs more, is extremely hard to cool and has a very bad upgrade path (as in, it's the final generation, 10th gen and beyond will need a new motherboard and probably DDR5 anyway). The Ryzen is easy to cool, cheap as fuck and has an amazing upgrade path that could potentially give him a better product than the 9900K.

If the Zen 2 leaks are true, he could upgrade to a R7/R9 and have significantly better performance compared to the 9900K multicore and singlecore.

He's been able to get significant upgrades for YEARS, but hasn't. Dude has an 8 year old CPU. There's no indication he is interested in "upgrade path".

[TNU_Chaleur]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

The i9 will perform horribly with H310 (someone tried it and it was worse than the i5 iirc, please don't try it).

The i9 costs more, is extremely hard to cool and has a very bad upgrade path (as in, it's the final generation, 10th gen and beyond will need a new motherboard and probably DDR5 anyway). The Ryzen is easy to cool, cheap as fuck and has an amazing upgrade path that could potentially give him a better product than the 9900K.

If the Zen 2 leaks are true, he could upgrade to a R7/R9 and have significantly better performance compared to the 9900K multicore and singlecore.

ill take your advise. thx. maybe ill just make a 2nd tower with ryzen 2700 and my old cpu and parts

 

[Mister Woof]

I swear upgrade path is starting to make me feel the same way as "gluten free" labels on meat.