2600 oc vs 2600x oc

[Scorpio 72472]

Hello,

 

I have two options,

1. 2600x + stock cooler

2. 2600 + hyper 212 (dual fan) or equivalent cooler

 

I could go with the non-x version abd overclock but what if the silicone lottery sucks for me? Typically what is the least frequency i can OC the 2600 to? (Worst case scenario)

 

If i take the 2600x tho then i will use the stock cooler and not overclock.

 

I will add a better cooler and switch 2600/x with zen 2 processors when they come out eventually. So which one would be better?

 

1. 2600x + stock cooler --> 3600(non-x) + hyper 212 equivalent cooler

2. 2600 + hyper 212 --> 3600x + hyper 212

[Stormseeker9]

Can you wait till July ? apparently Ryzen 3000 should be released then.

[Princess Luna]

The Ryzen 5 2600 already comes with a cpu cooler that's as good as an old hyper 212 and is the more money orientated benefit since you can easily overclock it with stock cooler to have it match the Ryzen 5 2600X.

[Scorpio 72472]

4 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

Can you wait till July ? apparently Ryzen 3000 should be released then.

I'll be buying it within two weeks. But I'll upgrade to zen 2 when they are released

[Scorpio 72472]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

The Ryzen 5 2600 already comes with a cpu cooler that's as good as an old hyper 212 and is the more money orientated benefit since you can easily overclock it with stock cooler to have it match the Ryzen 5 2600X.

Price difference between them is $20. I would like to not overclock if possible. Should I take 2600x?

[Stormseeker9]

Just now, Scorpio 72472 said:

Price difference between them is $20. I would like to not overclock if possible. Should I take 2600x?

If you dont want to overclock just get the 2600. Itll be fine

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, Scorpio 72472 said:

Price difference between them is $20. I would like to not overclock if possible. Should I take 2600x?

If you want to not overclock any thing then go i7 8700 locked on a b360 with 2666mhz memory if you want a great longevity out of your CPU, price for price is not too different.

 

Ryzen requires you to overclock to get the most out of it.

[Stormseeker9]

11 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

If you want to not overclock any thing then go i7 8700 locked on a b360 with 2666mhz memory if you want a great longevity out of your CPU, price for price is not too different.

 

Ryzen requires you to overclock to get the most out of it.

OP mentioned he wants to get the Zen 2 / 3000 series when launched. Advising to go intel would mean that at the time he will need to buy a new mobo as well. Intel are little shits for that.

 

Price/performance is on AMD's side. 

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Stormseeker9 said:

OP mentioned he wants to get the Zen 2 / 3000 series when launched. Advising to go intel would mean that at the time he will need to buy a new mobo as well. Intel are little shits for that.

If OP gets an Intel he'll already have on pair performance with the newer offerings eliminating the need to upgrade in such short period, get a chip now to replace it here in 4 months is extremely poor money management that eliminates any sense of "value" just because you keep a motherboard that might or not truly be able to support the new chips adequately.

 

1 minute ago, Stormseeker9 said:

Price/performance is on AMD's side. 

This is incorrect, given the i7 8700 locked has superior single thread performance than any Ryzen currently does while keeping much on pair with the multi-thread of a Ryzen 1700 and having iGPU acceleration for a great number of applications considered "workstation" the processor lies perfectly competitively.

[Stormseeker9]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

If OP gets an Intel he'll already have on pair performance with the newer offerings eliminating the need to upgrade in such short period, get a chip now to replace it here in 4 months is extremely poor money management that eliminates any sense of "value" just because you keep a motherboard that might or not truly be able to support the new chips adequately.

 

*snip*

How could you know this? Engineering sample beat the 9900K. Wasn't even a finished product.

 

Honestly in my opinion once the 3000 gets released intel will shit their pants. If we get 9900k processors equivalents under $500.. with more cores and less power draw.. I wouldn't think twice.

[Emanbaird]

Op if you DON'T want to OC get the 2600x and whatever you need for XFR2

 

EDIT: While the 8700 is much faster than the 2600/2600x especially in high refresh rate applications most games/panels won't be able to take advantage of it, and especially with the 8700(non-k) being $300 right now I can't recommend it, you'd be better off spending the $100 elsewhere, maybe on the GPU or storage.

XFR2 is amazing i was surprised It is really good for games, mine will push about 4.1ghz all cores in workloads but it will go up to 4.3 on 4 threads, although a full 4.3ghz OC on all cores would probably be faster. But i doubt you would notice much of a difference i agree with @Princess Cadence you would have to overclock it in order to the most out of it especially if you get a 2600, but not so much with the 2600x.

Edited February 18, 2019 by Emanbaird

[Brent744]

With the latest BIOS update from Gigabyte, my R5 2600 boosts to 4199 MHz on 3 cores while under heavy load at stock settings (no overclock). So I always keep my 2600 at stock settings now however, a liquid cooler or equivalent cooling power is required along with XFR enabled.

[Scorpio 72472]

@Princess Cadence do both 2600 and 2600x have the same overclocking capability? 

 

Actually you are right. Being an AMD user I'll need to learn how to overclock sooner or later so i think get 2600 with a good cooler and overclock?    

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, Scorpio 72472 said:

Actually you are right. Being an AMD user I'll need to learn how to overclock sooner or later so i think get 2600 with a good cooler and overclock? 

Overclocking the Ryzen 5 will be extremely easy, YouTube is filled with tutorials but it's literally set a voltage and set the multiplier on BIOS and you're done, it takes 1 minute to make the Ryzen 5 2600 mimic the Ryzen 5 2600X frequency at stock settings and both do overclock much the same.

 

*Have in mind CPU is not the whole story, you need to overclock memory RAM too! to a high frequency.

[Scorpio 72472]

@Princess Cadence as much of an intel supporter i was, i hate their one socket for one generation marketing. And amd is kinda on the more affordable side. Please note that the only intel processor that is priced similar to the 2600/x is i5 9400F at $220, Ryzen 5 2600x is $250 and every other i7 is basically over $380

 

In my country that is.

 

83 BDT ~   1USD

 

startech.com.bd 

ryanscomputers.com

http://ucc-bd.com

 

The top 3 computer retail stores in my country.

 

Check the prices of RTX 2060 in the UCC BD shop. You'll get what i am trynna say :v   

[Scorpio 72472]

7 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Overclocking the Ryzen 5 will be extremely easy, YouTube is filled with tutorials but it's literally set a voltage and set the multiplier on BIOS and you're done, it takes 1 minute to make the Ryzen 5 2600 mimic the Ryzen 5 2600X frequency at stock settings and both do overclock much the same.

 

*Have in mind CPU is not the whole story, you need to overclock memory RAM too! to a high frequency.

DDR4 ram defaults at 2133 until i change it using xmp profile afaik.

 

Is that correct? 

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Scorpio 72472 said:

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Don't worry I understand the issues of Intel.

 

Gaming with a RTX 2060 the Ryzen 5 2600 with 3000mhz memory will be enough to where you won't require to upgrade it to the next Ryzen line up at all.

 

It should be good enough for gaming for years to come.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Scorpio 72472 said:

DDR4 ram defaults at 2133 until i change it using xmp profile afaik.

 

Is that correct? 

XMP is simply an automatic overclock setting, you can do manually if you desire too... if you do nothing it runs on the default 2133mhz and for Ryzen much more than Intel a low frequency becomes an issue slowing down the whole CPU.

[Scorpio 72472]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Don't worry I understand the issues of Intel.

 

Gaming with a RTX 2060 the Ryzen 5 2600 with 3000mhz memory will be enough to where you won't require to upgrade it to the next Ryzen line up at all.

 

It should be good enough for gaming for years to come.

Thanks for the support man.

 

I think I'll take the R5 2600 RTX 2060 build and eye the zen 2+ in a near future upgrade