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Adhikariashok
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Hello Everyone,

 

So I have been a macbook user since 3 years and I own a Macbook Pro 2015. I want to go back to windows as I am studying engineering and many softwares are not supported in macbooks. I am great fan of lenovo thinkpad series and have tied my option between two Thinkpads, X1 Xtreme and T580. I will be doing programming on my laptop in Matlab and other IDE. I love to play overwatch and it will be a great boost if I could play it on the go on my laptop. I have attached the spec sheet for both laptops below and the price is same for both of them i.e. $1370. X1 Xtreme is the one with 1050ti and T580 is the one with MX150. Please suggest me which will be better option according to price, durability and performance.

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if you are going to use solidworks, laptops with Quadros are much preferred.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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@Jurrunio Yeah but Lenovo P series are pretty expensive laptops that's why I am thinking about getting X1 xtreme!

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17 minutes ago, Adhikariashok said:

@Jurrunio Yeah but Lenovo P series are pretty expensive laptops that's why I am thinking about getting X1 xtreme!

from what I can tell, the Xtreme is the better option because it has stronger GPU and 4K on a monitor this small makes no sense (and hurts battery life). There are pros here that are much better than me though

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

from what I can tell, the Xtreme is the better option because it has stronger GPU and 4K on a monitor this small makes no sense (and hurts battery life). There are pros here that are much better than me though

Yeah I will not be getting the one with 4k

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Honestly between those two I would just bootcamp your mac and install windows. You have one of the nicest recent macbooks.

 

Otherwise I would look for a zbook or thinkpad with quaddro even if you end up a generation or two older.

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One thing I can vouch for with the T580 is that it should be pretty easy for user upgradeability. Could save some money by going for less ram and less storage and then popping it in yourself. That's what I did with my T530 and T450. Lenovo wanted something like $600 for 16gb of ram when I bought my T530, but I just got it with the base 4gb, popped down to memory express, and got x2 8gb sticks for $120 and faster than stock.

 Also, what about an external GPU enclosure for a Quadro? The T580 has thunderbolt 3, right? Not sure if that would be too bulky, though. Just a thought.

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