Waiting for clinical results may be a thing of the past.

[Sauron]

1 hour ago, RorzNZ said:

Hospitals do have a unified database, but there is no common personal database between android or Apple.

Why does that need to exist? All that's needed is some way to access your personal record in the Hospital's database.

1 hour ago, RorzNZ said:

TheApple Watch is one of the most accurate monitoring devices for heart rate, ecg etc.

Maybe, if you want to spend $400+ and those specific metrics are actually useful to you. And as @Thaldor pointed out, it may be accurate relative to the average wristband but that doesn't make it medical grade. If your health depends on regularly measuring your heart rate, you should use a dedicated tool.

1 hour ago, RorzNZ said:

When Google invests into health as Apple does, we might see this change, but right now there is no competition. 

Any company can release an android smartwatch (there are plenty), I don't see what Google is supposed to do... this has nothing to do with their product (android).  The Apple Watch isn't a feature of iOS, it's a separate product that works with iOS phones.

 

And I don't see why you need a smartwatch to check your hospital data...

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Sauron said:

Why does that need to exist? All that's needed is some way to access your personal record in the Hospital's database.

There is already a way to access your personal records in the hospital database. It's called phoning them up, this is a much more convenient way, and you are able to have all your hospital records here. Most countries have separate databases for different districts. Its quite troublesome getting doctors and the different DHBs to collaborate in an effective way due to how their systems are managed. 

1 minute ago, Sauron said:

Maybe, if you want to spend $400+ and those specific metrics are actually useful to you. And as @Thaldor pointed out, it may be accurate relative to the average wristband but that doesn't make it medical grade. If your health depends on regularly measuring your heart rate, you should use a dedicated tool.

I've tested it myself, thats how I know. 

1 minute ago, Sauron said:

Any company can release an android smartwatch (there are plenty), I don't see what Google is supposed to do... this has nothing to do with their product (android).  The Apple Watch isn't a feature of iOS, it's a separate product that works with iOS phones.

Apple Watch uses special sensors and metrics to measure your heart rate, which is very accurate and comparable. It is a testament to how much Apple puts into medical research applications for its devices. 

1 minute ago, Sauron said:

And I don't see why you need a smartwatch to check your hospital data...

The Health app is on iDevices. 

[Sauron]

25 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

I've tested it myself, thats how I know.

Hooray for anecdotal evidence with no science to back it up...

26 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

Apple Watch uses special sensors and metrics to measure your heart rate, which is very accurate and comparable. It is a testament to how much Apple puts into medical research applications for its devices.

This wouldn't have been out of place in an advertisement for the watch... and honestly it's just buzz words unless you can prove any of it with rigurous testing.

27 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

The Health app is on iDevices. 

I think you're missing my point - there doesn't need to be any "investment into medical research" to have a competent application that conveniently displays your medical record, and it doesn't require you to have any additional accessory. And it's not up to Google to make that application; anyone who believes there's a market for it can go and make it. Apple made their own specifically so they could sell you the watch integration, Google has no such incentive.

[Guest]

Just now, Sauron said:

Hooray for anecdotal evidence with no science to back it up...

I literally compared it to an ECG, but ok whatever u want. 

Just now, Sauron said:

This wouldn't have been out of place in an advertisement for the watch... and honestly it's just buzz words unless you can prove any of it with rigurous testing.

I think you're missing my point - there doesn't need to be any "investment into medical research" to have a competent application that conveniently displays your medical record, and it doesn't require you to have any additional accessory.

Patients are very thick-skinned when it comes to their own diagnosis, there is a need. If we can develop these mobile technologies further, this opens the doors to new screening programs using mobile devices. People do not visit the doctor regularly, they do not care for themselves well enough, and people are very skeptical. If we can help people with reminders to get screened for certain conditions and visit the doctor regularly, and correlate their health with their data, this will be very beneficial to their health. You misplace the investment on just getting patients records to them as soon as possible. 

 

The Health App has the potential to display your lifestyle along with your health records, and from numerous DHBs. There is no cross-application for all your records unless you go to just one hospital, there will always be data gaps. With the Health App we can have a very complete picture. 

Just now, Sauron said:

And it's not up to Google to make that application; anyone who believes there's a market for it can go and make it. Apple made their own specifically so they could sell you the watch integration, Google has no such incentive.

The Health App is free. 

[Thaldor]

21 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

The Health App is free. 

Well somewhere the development money comes from. For Googles Fit, it's selling your data, for Samsungs S Health and Apples Health it's selling you a device.

 

Also as long as it's Apple we are talking about, this whole thing is as pointless as calling MIDI-interface "globally supported" when it actually only works with Garage Band. Because it will be a day when unicorns descent from mountains and rain turns to wine when Apple makes something that actually works with other devices than iDevices and last time I checked Android was still way ahead in market share compared to iOS. So Apple coming out with this is more like them starting a marketing campaing to get hospitals and other healthcare sell iPhones and Apple Watches, because this will never work with anything else, at least in it's full potential, and that's where Apple is going to dig their money. And compared to this the Project Bali actually seems a lot more feasible because it's not limited to certain devices, even though the other side of the coin is that Microsoft most probably is going to sell your data.

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I see the commercials now

 

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Also

"Mr John Doe, 

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[rijzen]

Where i live we get all of our health records through our insurance providers database immediately and it doesn't matter where you go for treatment. Since its web based you don't need any special hardware aside from an internet connection. From my point of view the "app" is pointless. Unless of course you live somewhere that things are heavily fragmented.