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Quadro P2000 or GTX 1070

Hello.

First of all, hello to everyone. This is my first message in this forum! I am sure i can get a real answer here.

 

I've been searching the internet to see some benchmarks between a PNY Quadro P2000 and an MSI GTX1070, but couldn't find. I can only find benchmarks for 1080 TI.

 

I am building a PC for my girlfriend, mainly for working on architectural programs, and I don't know what graphic card to use.

I already have a GTX1070, that I am currently trying to sell to pay part of the Quadro P2000 I bought some days ago, which hasn't arrived yet.

 

- I know my girlfirend uses mainly Autocad, Revit, Vray. She would really appreciate good rendering times.

- Se is also working on a project using SolidWorks, but I would say that it is not a huge project in terms of model size.

- It would be a plus if I could also do some gaming, but in this case it is really not a priority.

 

Questions:

1) What would be better in terms of performance for programs like Autocad, Revit, Vray (and other rendering engines), GTX1070 or Quadro P2000?

2) Will using a GTX1070 for SolidWorks render it unusable or incredibly slow? What about other programs commonly used for design? (Rhino?)

3) Even knowing I have to sell one of the 2 cards to make cash...considering a 1 monitor setup, would it be possible to install both GPU on the system?

4) Would I see any bennefit in terms of rendering with vray and other software, if I have these 2 different GPU installed "working together" ?

 

Please... help? LOL

 

Thank you.

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Probably the quadro because of its workstation built card where it thrives in performance with stuff like that. that's at least what my knowledge tells me, so don't quote me (Not literally)

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15 minutes ago, LukeTheCoder05 said:

Probably the quadro because of its workstation built card where it thrives in performance with stuff like that. that's at least what my knowledge tells me, so don't quote me (Not literally)

But... is that really true, for us that don't need ECC memory, or 100% uptime, or other bennefits that makes a Quadro a "Workstation" GPU?

In terms of Performance, would it REALLY be better a P2000 than a GTX 1070? ?

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Just now, Drock128 said:

But... is that really true, for us that don't need ECC memory, or 100% uptime, or other bennefits that makes a Quadro a "Workstation" GPU?

In terms of Performance, would it REALLY be better a P2000 than a GTX 1070? ?

I would check the amount of CUDA core and base speeds. like any CPU, more cores makes a better workstation application.

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1 hour ago, LukeTheCoder05 said:

I would check the amount of CUDA core and base speeds. like any CPU, more cores makes a better workstation application.

Mmm.. seems Im going with GTX 1070, and try to sell the Quadro when it arrives. Thanx.

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Some test with GTX 1070

 

PC:
CPU: DualCore Intel Celeron G3930, 2900 MHz (29 x 100)
GPU: MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X (MS-V330)
GPU BIOS Version: 86.04.50.00.2A
PC RAM: 4 GB, DDR4-2400 (1200 MHz)
OS: Windows 10

 

GPU NON-Overclocked
OctaneBench : Score = 149.58
Cinebench R15.0: OpenGL = 86.35 fps
Vray Benchmark 1.0.8: GPU Render time = 01:33
3D Mark Basic Edition: TimeSpy V10 Graphics Score = 6450 (Test1 = 43.03 FPS, Test2 = 36.25 FPS)

 

GPU Overclocked
OctaneBench : Score = 149.43
Cinebench R15.0: OpenGL = 85.66 fps
Vray Benchmark 1.0.8: GPU Render time = 01:34
3D Mark Basic Edition: TimeSpy V10 Graphics Score = 6462 (Test1 = 42.95 FPS, Test2 = 36.43 FPS)

 

GPU Overclock (MSI Afterburner)
Core Voltage = Unmodified / Auto
Power Limit = 100%
Temp Limit = 75º
Core Clock = +110
Memory Clock = +500
FAN: Auto


Was expecting better performance Overclocked than non overclocked, but apparently it is the same to overclock or not overclock the GPU...or something is wrong ?

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3 hours ago, Drock128 said:

Some test with GTX 1070

 

PC:
CPU: DualCore Intel Celeron G3930, 2900 MHz (29 x 100)
GPU: MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X (MS-V330)
GPU BIOS Version: 86.04.50.00.2A
PC RAM: 4 GB, DDR4-2400 (1200 MHz)
OS: Windows 10

 

GPU NON-Overclocked
OctaneBench : Score = 149.58
Cinebench R15.0: OpenGL = 86.35 fps
Vray Benchmark 1.0.8: GPU Render time = 01:33
3D Mark Basic Edition: TimeSpy V10 Graphics Score = 6450 (Test1 = 43.03 FPS, Test2 = 36.25 FPS)

 

GPU Overclocked
OctaneBench : Score = 149.43
Cinebench R15.0: OpenGL = 85.66 fps
Vray Benchmark 1.0.8: GPU Render time = 01:34
3D Mark Basic Edition: TimeSpy V10 Graphics Score = 6462 (Test1 = 42.95 FPS, Test2 = 36.43 FPS)

 

GPU Overclock (MSI Afterburner)
Core Voltage = Unmodified / Auto
Power Limit = 100%
Temp Limit = 75º
Core Clock = +110
Memory Clock = +500
FAN: Auto


Was expecting better performance Overclocked than non overclocked, but apparently it is the same to overclock or not overclock the GPU...or something is wrong ?

I think the biggest issue with this benchmark is that the system is severely bottlenecking the GTX 1070, which is why you aren't seeing any performance gain even when the card is OC'd. A celeron G3930 and 4 gigs of ram isn't enough to feed the demands of a mid-high tier card. Try testing the cards on a system with an i5 8600/Ryzen 5 2600 or higher, with at least 8 gigs of ram. 

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On 1/9/2019 at 1:39 AM, Drock128 said:

But... is that really true, for us that don't need ECC memory, or 100% uptime, or other bennefits that makes a Quadro a "Workstation" GPU?

In terms of Performance, would it REALLY be better a P2000 than a GTX 1070? ?

Quadro's driver optimization is far better for the programs you listed than mainstream GTX cards. (To my knowledge anyhow).

 

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4 hours ago, Drock128 said:

Some test with GTX 1070

 

PC:
CPU: DualCore Intel Celeron G3930, 2900 MHz (29 x 100)
GPU: MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X (MS-V330)
GPU BIOS Version: 86.04.50.00.2A
PC RAM: 4 GB, DDR4-2400 (1200 MHz)
OS: Windows 10

 

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GPU Overclock (MSI Afterburner)
Core Voltage = Unmodified / Auto
Power Limit = 100%
Temp Limit = 75º
Core Clock = +110
Memory Clock = +500
FAN: Auto


Was expecting better performance Overclocked than non overclocked, but apparently it is the same to overclock or not overclock the GPU...or something is wrong ?

 

Thar CPU bottlenecks. 4GB of ram for editing and rendering? Up that to 16GB for smoothness or at least 8.

 

As to your OC I suggest raising power limit to as high as it goes same for temp. (Upping max power it can draw helps performance, and sometimes this will lead to more heat. 

 

 

But but if you can, get a new CPU And some more ram. 

 

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Hello.

Thanks for the answers.

Yes, this is not going to be the final system.

About CPU: Will install an Intel Core i7-7700K 4.20 GHz Quad-Core.
About RAM: Will install a total of 16GB. Have 12GB at the moment, one chip missing.

About Power limit: Didnt see any throttling because of temp, power or core voltage, but will re do the test maxing out these parameters.

About Quadro card: I've heard that because of specific drivers, it behaves better than a gaming card. However, the GTX 1070 is more powerfull than the Quadro P2000, so it is not a 1 on 1 comparisson. At this momento, I tend to believe than 1070 will outperform Quadro P2000.
Sadly, even if the Quadro card I bought did arrive, I will not be able to test it, because I will have to sell it ?

Will re do the test with improved system and let you know.

 

Thanks!

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9 minutes ago, Drock128 said:

Hello.

Thanks for the answers.

Yes, this is not going to be the final system.

About CPU: Will install an Intel Core i7-7700K 4.20 GHz Quad-Core.
About RAM: Will install a total of 16GB. Have 12GB at the moment, one chip missing.

About Power limit: Didnt see any throttling because of temp, power or core voltage, but will re do the test maxing out these parameters.

About Quadro card: I've heard that because of specific drivers, it behaves better than a gaming card. However, the GTX 1070 is more powerfull than the Quadro P2000, so it is not a 1 on 1 comparisson. At this momento, I tend to believe than 1070 will outperform Quadro P2000.
Sadly, even if the Quadro card I bought did arrive, I will not be able to test it, because I will have to sell it ?

Will re do the test with improved system and let you know.

 

Thanks!

now, if i was you, and you arent gaming the quadro still will beat the gtx 1070... 

watch this :)

Rig 1: i7-9700k OC'd to 5.0ghz all core | EVGA XC RTX 2080Ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 4x8gb | ASUS PRIME Z370-P | Asetek 550LC 120mm | ADATA 480GB SSD & Toshiba P300 3TB | Cooler Master Masterbox MB500 | Win 10 Home | Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum, G502 Proteus Spectrum, G933 Artemis Spectrum Snow Wireless Limited Edition, Corsair MM300 Mouse Pad | 2 MSI Optix Curved 27" FHD Monitors 

 

(before i sold the WD drive and MSI gpu - https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11946219 171 gaming. felt good.)

 

Rig 2: i7-7700k Stock clocks | MSI Armor GTX 1070 | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 2x8GB | MSI Z270 A-Pro | WD Green 240GB SSD & 2TB Seagate HDD | Thermaltake Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition | Win 10 Home | 2 HP Omen FHD 144hz 24.5" Monitors 

 

Rig 3: i7-6700 | GT 730 & GT 645 OEM | Some random DDR4 2133mhz 2x8gb sticks | OEM Dell Mobo | WD Black 2TB HDD & Toshiba 1TB HDD | Win 10 Home | 3 27" Dell FHD Monitors 

 

Rig 4: i7-4770 | EVGA SSC 1050ti | Some random DDR3 ram 2x2gb and 2x4gb sticks | OEM Dell Mobo | Stock Cooler | 1TB WD Black HDD | Win 7 Home 

 

RIP 

 

Rig 5 (dead and dismantled and sold) : i7-7820X OC'd to 4.8ghz all core | MSI DUKE 1080ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 4x8gb | Gigabyte X299 UD4 PRO | Asetek 240mm AIO | WD Green 240gb SSD | Other various components that I can't remember

 

Rig 6 (same fate as rig 5) i7-8700k stock clocks | MSI DUKE 1080ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 2x8gb | MSI Z370 A-Pro | Asetek 550LC 120mm | WD Green 240GB SSD & Toshiba 2TB HDD | Other various components that I can't Remember 

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with that video, the quadro p2000 beats even the titan V in rendering programs

Rig 1: i7-9700k OC'd to 5.0ghz all core | EVGA XC RTX 2080Ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 4x8gb | ASUS PRIME Z370-P | Asetek 550LC 120mm | ADATA 480GB SSD & Toshiba P300 3TB | Cooler Master Masterbox MB500 | Win 10 Home | Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum, G502 Proteus Spectrum, G933 Artemis Spectrum Snow Wireless Limited Edition, Corsair MM300 Mouse Pad | 2 MSI Optix Curved 27" FHD Monitors 

 

(before i sold the WD drive and MSI gpu - https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11946219 171 gaming. felt good.)

 

Rig 2: i7-7700k Stock clocks | MSI Armor GTX 1070 | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 2x8GB | MSI Z270 A-Pro | WD Green 240GB SSD & 2TB Seagate HDD | Thermaltake Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition | Win 10 Home | 2 HP Omen FHD 144hz 24.5" Monitors 

 

Rig 3: i7-6700 | GT 730 & GT 645 OEM | Some random DDR4 2133mhz 2x8gb sticks | OEM Dell Mobo | WD Black 2TB HDD & Toshiba 1TB HDD | Win 10 Home | 3 27" Dell FHD Monitors 

 

Rig 4: i7-4770 | EVGA SSC 1050ti | Some random DDR3 ram 2x2gb and 2x4gb sticks | OEM Dell Mobo | Stock Cooler | 1TB WD Black HDD | Win 7 Home 

 

RIP 

 

Rig 5 (dead and dismantled and sold) : i7-7820X OC'd to 4.8ghz all core | MSI DUKE 1080ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 4x8gb | Gigabyte X299 UD4 PRO | Asetek 240mm AIO | WD Green 240gb SSD | Other various components that I can't remember

 

Rig 6 (same fate as rig 5) i7-8700k stock clocks | MSI DUKE 1080ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 2x8gb | MSI Z370 A-Pro | Asetek 550LC 120mm | WD Green 240GB SSD & Toshiba 2TB HDD | Other various components that I can't Remember 

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Quadro cards of the same spec are much faster at pretty much anything cad related,

 

This is mostly due to in CAD using a lot of double-sided-polygons, and a lot of the cards are faster at rendering these, as well as double precision computations, I don't know if this is still the case nowadays, but my Quadro in my 2014 build was almost twice as fast as my equivalent GTX 480

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Just now, Emanbaird said:

Quadro cards of the same spec are much faster at pretty much anything cad related,

 

This is mostly due to in CAD using a lot of double-sided-polygons, and a lot of the cards are faster at rendering these, as well as double precision computations, I don't know if this is still the case nowadays, but my Quadro in my 2014 build was almost twice as fast as my equivalent GTX 480

Is this stil the case for rendering with Vray on Revit, for example?
Most of the use will be Revit, and rendering Architectural scenes.

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2 minutes ago, Drock128 said:

Is this stil the case for rendering with Vray on Revit, for example?
 Most of the use will be Revit, and rendering Architectural scenes.

I'm not sure TBH, I would look into it but i'm at work, and basically all sites are blocked, If she's just a student and not doing anything necessarily complex the 1070 may be fine, the Quadro cards are extremely reliable i.e 100% for 5 days a week 3 years and they usually have good warranties if they do go bad, the precision is important on big renders because any errors it has will show up in the final product, but if you guys are just rendering low poly/low res buildings with no complex lighting the 1070 may be fine, unfortunately I'm no longer familiar with the lingo, so i'm not too much help, but i would look at rendering benchmarks if possible 

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But yeah, i'd probably go with the 1070 just for raw compute performance, after looking into it it looks like the p2000 is a lot less beefy than the 1070, i thought they were basically the same cards or something 

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