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Why are there so many bad reviews on RTX cards?

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I was going to buy a RTX 2070, but found a lot of bad reviews, are they really that bad?

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Are there any "trustworthy" 2070s?

 

Also, they have different cards clocked at different speeds, do cards with higher speeds have a better die?

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18 minutes ago, boyu said:

Are there any "trustworthy" 2070s?

that's a universal problem for RTX cards. Early adopter tax, as I call it.

 

19 minutes ago, boyu said:

Also, they have different cards clocked at different speeds, do cards with higher speeds have a better die?

Nope, no binning there.

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56 minutes ago, boyu said:

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The RMA rate seems to be a tad higher than previous gens, and people tend to expect more on a 1200/700usd card. The gtx 970s were just as crappy on launch, the 980/980 ti had no such problems. People with a problem is way more likely to leave a review.

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I have that exact card and haven't had any issues with it other than a simple driver issue one day. Performance has been better than expected.

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You would also have to think on some non-verified buyer negative comments,... it's echo chambering the online havok to some degree.

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Have a RTX 2070 myself. OC’d nice and temps are astonishing. 

 

People complain because they can. I mean look at that comment on your scrnshot ‘RMA due to a driver installation failure and now it’s broken’ shit like this happens end of day software crashes at times. All he needs to do somr Basic troubleshooting. I bet you that card ain’t faulty and maybe clearing CMOS would fix this. 

 

Take comments like those with a pinch of salt :) 

 

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A review is done by a legitimate site that actually test the cards, not a buyers comment at on-line dealers. So, no, there are not many bad reviews of the 20X0-series from nVidia. 

 

And every "new" technology has it's initial problems, drivers are not 100% and the support from games are slim to none, so there is nothing new. Buy something new lika the RTX-lineup and then complain there lack support from developers of games and drivers are rather stupid and ignorant.

 

Besides that are real-time ray-tracing so new  in the gaming market that not even a 2080 Ti is going to perform well outside optimized time-demos. Let the technology mature for a generation or two and there will be a whole new dimension to gaming that actually works as intended. 

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13 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Nope, no binning there.

So I can go with a 499 2070 and it would have roughly same die quality as more expensive ones?

Why would they charge so much for overclocking then?

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I have an Asus RTX 2080 Ti Oc and i am encoutering a few issues with it so far.

It seems the new technology is too early to adapt into the gaming idustry, i am getting huge fps drops, usually playing capped at 120 fps with 3440x1440p resolution but randomly without any reason it drops for a brief second to 60 fps making stutters/small freezes on the screen then jumping again at 120 fps.

I cannot tell what's the exact problem but it looks like to be a driver issue, so far not satisfied with a 1500 euros pixel maker, just wish this is a driver only issue and it gets resolved quite fast.

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2 hours ago, boyu said:

So I can go with a 499 2070 and it would have roughly same die quality as more expensive ones?

Why would they charge so much for overclocking then?

Yes

 

charge so much for overclocking? You mean factory overclock? Well the more expensive cards also have better coolers, more RGB lights etc. Some people like those and are willing to pay stupid amounts of money for them. I'm not one of them

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I don't care about reviews, I care about how the experience is for me personally.  No one can say 20xx are junk cards,  They are simply a 1080 on steriods.  The price is what is crazy 1500 bucks for a video card.  I can put together a whole brand new system with that money sighs...

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RTX cards are overpriced, over-hyped and with tons of issues on board like sudden deaths for no reason. Actual "Ray-Tracing" feature is nowhere to be found except for select few games where it barely works at 1080p.

 

 

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