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I bought a rtx 2070 for Christmas to use in my system to get better performance for my pc. Replacing my 1060 3gb was nice as my fps in Far cry 5 and Bf5 increased a lot but I saw that my i5 7400 was bottlenecking. I also only have 8gb of ram, so even running one tab of chrome drops me 20 fps or even more on specific games. My motherboard is msi b250 Bazooka, so i cant go past a i7 7700k and the motherboard only supports 2400 speed ram. I guess what i am asking is what would the upgrading path be? I currently have only 300$ and I don't know where to go from here for my pc. If I didn't explain well enough on what my situation is, then just ask. Thanks!

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one can do

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $164.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $64.89 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $104.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $354.77
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $334.77
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-05 18:57 EST-0500  

 

alternative: get a locked 7700 or 6700

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add more RAM first, a 3000MHz (for future upgrades) 2x8GB kit cost around $100-110, while waiting for 3rd gen Ryzen's review.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

one can do

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $164.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $64.89 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $104.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $354.77
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $334.77
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-05 18:57 EST-0500  

 

alternative: get a locked 7700 or 6700

Wow thank you man, I might actually just do this. A couple questions if you don't mind? First, why does the Ryzen processor cost so much less than the i5 7400 I have in my system, when the cpu is supposed to be worse? And, second, Isn't intel better for gaming, I don't know much about gaming pcs' but I heard that you want to go with Intel for gaming and AMD for editing/streaming. Thank you so much for answering and taking your time to make this list for me

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6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

add more RAM first, a 3000MHz (for future upgrades) 2x8GB kit cost around $100-110, while waiting for 3rd gen Ryzen's review.

What do you mean "waiting for 3rd gen Ryzen's review"?  Thanks for the response :) 

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Sell your i5 with MB and RAMs and get this or go with Luke's build, but i would wait for the ryzen 3.gen ?

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N3mRq4
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N3mRq4/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($309.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($63.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($102.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $476.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-05 19:05 EST-0500

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2 minutes ago, Kotvald said:

Sell your i5 with MB and RAMs and get this or go with Luke's build 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N3mRq4
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N3mRq4/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($309.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($63.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($102.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $476.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-05 19:05 EST-0500

I think I am going to spend the extra money for that processor, thanks I am going to be using these exact parts you listed, very big help. Thank you so much man, Im selling my 1060 for 100 which should bring me up to 400 and then the processor and ram should get me to close around there to get those upgrades, thank you!

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4 minutes ago, Kotvald said:

Sell your i5 with MB and RAMs and get this or go with Luke's build 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N3mRq4
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N3mRq4/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($309.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($63.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($102.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $476.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-05 19:05 EST-0500

oh and sorry for quoting again but is the Ryzen 7 2600x better than the i7 8700k? 

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youd see a pretty big improvement going to a 7700/7700k that would probably be good for a RTX2070 and goign forwards for a while.

 

changing to a 2600 is an interesting option that opens some doors to CPU upgrades in the future but if you just want to game and not worry too muc hjust getting the i7 would do you nicely

 

Next gen Ryzen (3rd gen / 3000 series) will be road mapped this week most likely so we will get some info but you wont be able to buy one for a few months so depending on your patience we will have to see

 

 

1 minute ago, Hortaun said:

oh and sorry for quoting again but is the Ryzen 7 2600x better than the i7 8700k

 

2600X is significantly slower than the 8700k but depends on your use case if you can take advantage of that

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1 minute ago, Swes said:

youd see a pretty big improvement going to a 7700/7700k that would probably be good for a RTX2070 and goign forwards for a while.

 

changing to a 2600 is an interesting option that opens some doors to CPU upgrades in the future but if you just want to game and not worry too muc hjust getting the i7 would do you nicely

 

Next gen Ryzen (3rd gen / 3000 series) will be road mapped this week most likely so we will get some info but you wont be able to buy one for a few months so depending on your patience we will have to see

 

 

 

2600X is significantly slower than the 8700k but depends on your use case if you can take advantage of that

I want to game and end up streaming later on in a year, so I have no clue what to go with here lol for the processor 

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I want to game and end up streaming later on in a year, so I have no clue what to go with here lol for the processor 

If you want to stream games go for 2600x or wait for 3. Gen Ryzen

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15 minutes ago, Hortaun said:

Wow thank you man, I might actually just do this. A couple questions if you don't mind? First, why does the Ryzen processor cost so much less than the i5 7400 I have in my system, when the cpu is supposed to be worse? And, second, Isn't intel better for gaming, I don't know much about gaming pcs' but I heard that you want to go with Intel for gaming and AMD for editing/streaming. Thank you so much for answering and taking your time to make this list for me

because of a 14nm shortage at intel, price to performence? no. look at the 2600 for example, it's about 8400-8500 levels of gaming performence, but costs less and has hypertreading.

 

13 minutes ago, Kotvald said:

Sell your i5 with MB and RAMs and get this or go with Luke's build, but i would wait for the ryzen 3.gen ?

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N3mRq4
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N3mRq4/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($309.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($63.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($102.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $476.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-05 19:05 EST-0500

ripjaws are the same price and have cl15 over the 16 you listed. wouldn't put a 2700x on a hdv board...

 

btw, the amd keynote is on wednesday...

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3 minutes ago, Hortaun said:

I want to game and end up streaming later on in a year, so I have no clue what to go with here lol for the processor 

Wellllll then i'd really push for the 2600 actually over the 7700, and see how 3rd gen goes. prices will drop a lot once November comes around again and you can go to an 8 core if you arent happy with the streaming performance of the 2600.

 

edit: you want to pick a beefy board if you think you want to upgrade to an 8 core later, there are some guides for this but cheap side i'd get a fatality b series board or go taichi x series that will enable you to do some OCing which is always fun if not you can kind of pick whatever for most part

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1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

because of a 14nm shortage at intel, price to performence? no. look at the 2600 for example, it's about 8400-8500 levels of gaming performence, but costs less and has hypertreading.

 

ripjaws are the same price and have cl15 over the 16 you listed. wouldn't put a 2700x on a hdv board...

Yeah but he is on low budget, ofc i would recommend B450 Bazooka when you will have $ for it

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1 minute ago, Kotvald said:

Yeah but he is on low budget, ofc i would recommend B450 Bazooka when you will have $ for it

you know the pro4 is 2 bucks more, right?

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1 minute ago, Kotvald said:

Yeah but he is on low budget, ofc i would recommend B450 Bazooka when you will have $ for it

Lets say I had 500$ to use, I think I can get to that 500$ price point, would I still use everything you listed?

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*not confirmed*

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too good to be true imo... but yeah... who knows?

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1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

you know the pro4 is 2 bucks more, right?

Oh mb then i didn't know that

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2 minutes ago, Hortaun said:

Lets say I had 500$ to use, I think I can get to that 500$ price point, would I still use everything you listed?

then i would do this personally...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor $267.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $141.88 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $104.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $544.76
  Mail-in rebates -$30.00
  Total $514.76
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-05 19:27 EST-0500  

 

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2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

then i would do this personally...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor $267.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $141.88 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $104.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $544.76
  Mail-in rebates -$30.00
  Total $514.76
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-05 19:27 EST-0500  

 

May I ask why r u goin' with non x version and why with that MB ? 

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1 minute ago, Kotvald said:

May I ask why r u goin' with non x version and why with that MB ? 

because you can just clock up a non x to the same speeds. and for the difference in price you could get a really nice aircooler like the freezer 33 esports one. the board because of that sweet 12 phase premium power design on the cheap

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5 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

because you can just clock up a non x to the same speeds. and for the difference in price you could get a really nice aircooler like the freezer 33 esports one. the board because of that sweet 12 phase premium power design on the cheap

Ohhhh thanks for info but in what is better that "sweet 12 phase premium power design" ? (idk MBs that good)

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Ohhhh thanks for info but in what is better that "sweet 12 phase premium power design" ? (idk MBs that good)

the cpu power design. the fatal1ty uses 12 great power phases to supply power to the cpu really well. only the taichi linup can top it on x470. and the price is pretty good for it, so that's why i recommend it. the pro4 could technically hold it, but would have some problems with keeping higher overclocks stable

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