Mac Pro 2013?

[Pelop17]

what do you think about the new mac pro??

[MangoJuiceStain]

iTrash

[Pelop17]

iTrash

Why ?? if you have the money why not to get a beast?

[MangoJuiceStain]

Why ?? if you have the money why not to get a beast?

because for that money, you can build 2+ workstations that are equally as powerful

[Pelop17]

because for that money, you can build 2+ workstations that are equally as powerful

I disagree with you if i had the money i will get one and upgrade it to full extend!!! Think about that? Also it not an itrash beacause is very small compatible its a BEAST! ( I AM NOT AN APPLE FAN !!!!)

[whatthe_fuzz]

because for that money, you can build 2+ workstations that are equally as powerful

 

right but you could say that about any product. 

Kudos to Apple for the engineering beauty

 

 

BTW, This is the equivalent card in the Mac Pro

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195116

There's 2 of them so due the math. It can potentially be a good deal

[Hans Christian | Teri]

because for that money, you can build 2+ workstations that are equally as powerful

 

Now that's just straight up wrong, and has been disproved even by PC enthusiasts.

[Pelop17]

right but you could say that about any product. 

Kudos to Apple for the engineering beauty/

Another question i am  not pretty sure if its for gaming ( NOT?)

[whatthe_fuzz]

Another question i am  not pretty sure if its for gaming ( NOT?)

 

Noooooo definitely a work station for editing movies. (or pictures)

[Prikk]

I was surprised when i saw how small that thing is. Seems like they really put a lot of work into that thing. Not like the old mac pro which is overpriced as heck and looks horrible. Talking about overpriced, the new Mac pro price arent that bad at all, considering the quality of the internal and the external hardware. Also, super easy upgradability? Man its a beautiful machine. Too bad i cant afford it.

[felixbearpig]

i really like that black chrome look it has. 

[MangoJuiceStain]

right but you could say that about any product. 

Kudos to Apple for the engineering beauty/

 

right but you could say that about any product. 

Kudos to Apple for the engineering beauty/

But you guys don't seem to understand. With a starting price of $3000 for a quad core? I don't think so. And engineering and beauty? It looks like a trash can ffs.

[ultimatemythbuster]

I disagree with you if i had the money i will get one and upgrade it to full extend!!! Think about that? Also it not an itrash beacause is very small compatible its a BEAST! ( I AM NOT AN APPLE FAN !!!!)

The only way to upgrade the new Mac Pro is to plug in a bunch of external devices, hence detracting from the aesthetic.  I personally prefer to have upgrades inside my computer.

[whatthe_fuzz]

But you guys don't seem to understand. With a starting price of $3000 for a quad core? I don't think so. And engineering and beauty? It looks like a trash can ffs.

 

i meant internal beauty (thats all that counts right? )

as for pricing, the biggest cost in a workstation is usually graphics (or a $1000 CPU)

in this case, the D300 (the cards inside the Pro) are worth around $800 a piece. 

[Hoppa]

If I had all the money I could ever want, I still wouldn't buy it.

It doesn't suit my needs, I don't like the look of it.

I can do about 97% of what I want on windows anyways.

 

I love the aspect of how the case acts as a heatsink. That idea has popped into my head a few times actually.

It's a good idea but impractical.

Yes yes, form factor is crazy small. I do love having a small computers because large cases take up so much space and you get the same performance.

 

I'd like to have a 240-256GB SSD for boot drive. And 1TB HDD for extra storage (in future will be replaced by 1TB SSD)

This is because I actually like to have files stored on the computer itself, rather than have just a small SSD.

 

Any media, family photos etc etc go on NAS / external HDD

 

The mac OS is too restrictive and annoying for me to use. (the cursor acceleration is completely stupid. It's the simplest but most annoying problem)

"you can install windows on a mac" - Why would I  buy a mac just to install windows on it?

 

"you pay more because the built quality is amazing" - No it's not, a CPU is still a CPU.

The 'build quality' does not reflect the longevity of the product.

It's just joined together by fancy materials.

 

I don't mean to be a hater of mac products... but sometimes they really do piss me off.

 

So yeah, it's not for me.

 

I can see how it can be useful to other people though.

IOS has a lot of creative industry apps that are easy to use for people. (you see a lot of DJ's, music creators use macs)

[felixbearpig]

But you guys don't seem to understand. With a starting price of $3000 for a quad core? I don't think so. And engineering and beauty? It looks like a trash can ffs.

you dont understand man. the form factor, custom parts and R&D arnt free, and yeah a quad core but dual firepro cards arnt cheap

[MangoJuiceStain]

you dont understand man. the form factor, custom parts and R&D arnt free, and yeah a quad core but dual firepro cards arnt cheap

Form factor my ass. To actually get it to function in it's full potential, you need to plug in a whole bunch of shit and daisy-chain them together which ruins the aesthetics (not liked it look good anyways)

[felixbearpig]

Form factor my ass. To actually get it to function in it's full potential, you need to plug in a whole bunch of shit and daisy-chain them together which ruins the aesthetics (not liked it look good anyways)

think about it, you will be useing this in a office,

everybody will have their own mac pro and you will have a centralized thunderport server. (share drive) so you have your desktop and have 2 cables comming out. 1 for monitor and one for centralized server.

if there was just one then yeah it would be pointless. but if its in a office building ( target demographic) then its the right size and right implimentation

[MrSuperb]

Form factor my ass. To actually get it to function in it's full potential, you need to plug in a whole bunch of shit and daisy-chain them together which ruins the aesthetics (not liked it look good anyways)

 

who cares in a professional environment? Also you NEED to plug in nothing else than a monitor and a power cable.

 

You know whats an advantage? If something is broken or a new model is out you can just shutdown your Mac Pro, unplug all the cables, exchange it, plug the cables back in, boot and work on. Boom! done in less then a minute. time saved = money saved.

 

That is NOT possible without an external high speed connector like Thunderbolt.

[applebook]

Now that's just straight up wrong, and has been disproved even by PC enthusiasts.

 

Not to mention you can't build it in the same form factor either. 

 

I always enjoy fanboy rants that begin and end with, "Overpriced, I can build it for 1/2 the price," which completely ignores crucial elements like form factor and operating systems.

 

"Macbook Air is overpriced crap! I can build an i7 Quad Extreme with SLI for the same price!" P.S. Oh, and it's 2 inches thick, has a terrible screen, 65-minute battery life, weighs 12 lbs, has an atrocious trackpad, and runs Windows. 

 

My opinion of the iTrash Pro is that it's an engineering marvel solution to a problem that doesn't exist. I don't know of many "pro" users who want to sacrifice that much expandability just for a super tiny pro machine. If I were a pro Mac user, I would be extremely displeased about the direction that Apple has taken the iTrash. It should have been a premium upgrade option over the Mac Mini, a super HTCP with workstation abilities. 

[applebook]

Form factor my ass. To actually get it to function in it's full potential, you need to plug in a whole bunch of shit and daisy-chain them together which ruins the aesthetics (not liked it look good anyways)

 

"Form factor" exists in the real world. Perhaps not in yours, but in reality, people care about form factor, and computer hardware is priced according to form factor. An ultrabook has lower specs and fewer ports and parts (single HDD, no optical drive) than your average $1000 prosumer laptop because of its form factor and usually ULV processor. That's just the way that the world works. 

 

Just because you think that it's ugly, it doesn't mean that it's inexpensive to build, especially since it's manufactured in the States. BTW, your PC is just a black or silver rectangular trash can too. 

[Charger]

I think they a really good and at a rather good size but it almost seems to be made for the wrong market as I would have to assume the people that normally use mac pros in a professional environment would fill them with internal drivers and this seems more prosumer then professional.

I would never buy one as it is not something that i have a need for. 

[MangoJuiceStain]

"Form factor" exists in the real world. Perhaps not in yours, but in reality, people care about form factor, and computer hardware is priced according to form factor. An ultrabook has lower specs and fewer ports and parts (single HDD, no optical drive) than your average $1000 prosumer laptop because of its form factor and usually ULV processor. That's just the way that the world works. 

 

Just because you think that it's ugly, it doesn't mean that it's inexpensive to build, especially since it's manufactured in the States. BTW, your PC is just a black or silver rectangular trash can too. 

Ever heard of ITX casese though? You CAN fit 2 workstation graphic's cards in there. That circular form factor is stupid and you guys are saying that all you NEED to plug in is a monitor and a mouse/keyboard, but that's the exact same thing with any PC. You guys are listing things that are clearly not advantages in any way. You guys are also saying that in an office space you can have a thunderbolt server and that is an advantage, but you can have servers for PC's too.

[applebook]

Ever heard of ITX casese though? You CAN fit 2 workstation graphic's cards in there. 

 

Please show me an ITX case nearly as small as the Mac Pro that will accept the same hardware as a Mac Pro, and that will accommodate good internal cooling without an external radiator. 

 

Unsure where you would get that many TB ports and such a high powered PSU that isn't ATX size. It doesn't matter that Mac Pro's form factor isn't an advantage to you. It isn't an advantage to me either. In fact, I think that it's silly and unnecessary for a pro user to sacrifice so much internal expandability just for a cute, small "desktop" computer, but it's also unfair to dismiss the Mac Pro as just an overpriced trash bin that only fools would buy. It's a typical PC fanboy argument that ignores the intended markets for Macs. 

[Craftable124]

I personally think it's cool but I couldn't live without the expansion the old Mac Pro had. (or any ATX PC for that matter.)