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Hey everyone, I've come on here from time to time about my old toaster and I have finally upgraded. Actually the last remaining item from my old PC is my GTX 1050 ti SC from EVGA that's trash, considering I can't even come close the clock speeds others have reached with ease. Like literally everyone else can do +150 with no voltage bump and I'm barely stable at +50 :/ so I've completely lost the lottery, and since the RTX series came out I've been looking into buying a 1080 ti from some enthusiast that has already stepped up. I found some refurbished Gtx 1080 Ti's on newegg for just over $200 I'm wondering if this is a good idea since it's through newegg and square trade has protection plans available. Or should I just save my cash for the 1160 or RTX 2050 which cost about the same but are new.

 

As always any advice is appreciated, thanks :)

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It's the same thinking about buying a used 1070 and hope they didn't dog it too bad or overheat it. That bblock works on it too...Identical hole spacing...I plan ahead lol. 

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6 minutes ago, Thatguywiththetoasterpc said:

Hey everyone, I've come on here from time to time about my old toaster and I have finally upgraded. Actually the last remaining item from my old PC is my GTX 1050 ti SC from EVGA that's trash, considering I can't even come close the clock speeds others have reached with ease. Like literally everyone else can do +150 with no voltage bump and I'm barely stable at +50 :/ so I've completely lost the lottery, and since the RTX series came out I've been looking into buying a 1080 ti from some enthusiast that has already stepped up. I found some refurbished Gtx 1080 Ti's on newegg for just over $200 I'm wondering if this is a good idea since it's through newegg and square trade has protection plans available. Or should I just save my cash for the 1160 or RTX 2050 which cost about the same but are new.

 

As always any advice is appreciated, thanks :)

Used from like craigslist and hasn't been used in mining? Sure, great, absolutely buy.

 

Refurbished..... eh.... every refurbished product I've ever bought failed at some point down the line, much quicker than I would have liked it to. 

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Just now, JRzoid said:

It's the same thinking about buying a used 1070 and hope they didn't dog it too bad or overheat it. That bblock works on it too...Identical hole spacing...I plan ahead lol. 

I was kind of hoping since Newegg is selling them as refurbished they might check for that kind of thing. But I've bought "refurbished" things before that look like the were put right on the shelf to sell without even being checked. So that's why I came here to get a sense of how Newegg handles them atleast.

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$200 used is way to cheap to be safe, it's more like $400 for even the worst condition of cards

1 minute ago, Thatguywiththetoasterpc said:

Newegg is selling them as refurbished

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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Just now, corrado33 said:

Used from like craigslist and hasn't been used in mining? Sure, great, absolutely buy.

 

Refurbished..... eh.... every refurbished product I've ever bought failed at some point down the line, much quicker than I would have liked it to. 

That's what I was worried about I don't know by refurbished if they mean it's just used but has been checked for damage, or was damaged and then repaired which a cheap bandaid fix.

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1 minute ago, Thatguywiththetoasterpc said:

That's what I was worried about I don't know by refurbished if they mean it's just used but has been checked for damage, or was damaged and then repaired which a cheap bandaid fix.

Usually refurbished = it broke and they fixed it the cheapest way they could. 

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

$200 used is way to cheap to be safe, it's more like $400 for even the worst condition of cards

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https://m.newegg.com/products/1FT-000A-000H1?ignorebbr=true&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-Mobile&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-Mobile-_-pla-_-Video+Card+-+Nvidia-_-1FT-000A-000H1&gclsrc=aw.ds&gclid=Cj0KCQiA37HhBRC8ARIsAPWoO0wOxiF520RW8aR8w0KHuQDlziT5S-5uHX2SgYnnPLaLdoRzv7FheI0aAgrtEALw_wcB I figured if it's through newegg it might be safe, but it does seem kinda low.

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3 minutes ago, corrado33 said:

Usually refurbished = it broke and they fixed it the cheapest way they could. 

Damn, well atleast a man could hope. But I probably should do what you said and just look for a used listing on Ebay or craigslist from someone with a good rating. 

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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It's Probably fine but some been out there and used by now and just dogged out. 

But Id pay like 200-250$ for a used 1070 if it's actually ok. I need one I'm going up to a 4k monitor my 1060 is gonna struggle at that more....

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

that's a 1060, no 1080ti...

That would explain the low price...

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Damn you! its a 1060!

Only a broken 1080ti  sold $200.

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2 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

That would explain the low price...

Yeah lol,

 

Just now, SupaKomputa said:

Damn you! its a 1060!

Only a broken 1080ti  sold $200.

Yeah man I actually had one up but when I went back to Google that popped up instead. Unless I was completely blind when looking the original listing is gone :(

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4 minutes ago, Thatguywiththetoasterpc said:

Crap my bad, I thought that was it but the model I was looking at is no longer showing up. I'm guessing it might have been bought then.

btw that 1060 is still a shit deal considering you can get brand new RX 580 8GBs for less, but whatever.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

btw that 1060 is still a shit deal considering you can get brand new RX 580 8GBs for less, but whatever.

For $200 it is shit, but for the same price point, 1060 6gb would be the same (if not faster) as 580 8gb.

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6 minutes ago, JRzoid said:

It's Probably fine but some been out there and used by now and just dogged out. 

But Id pay like 200-250$ for a used 1070 if it's actually ok. I need one I'm going up to a 4k monitor my 1060 is gonna struggle at that more....

I'm still playing on 1080p.... 45fps... lol, I just thought if it was real, I could score a card that would keep up for a long while.

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2 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

For $200 it is shit, but for the same price point, 1060 6gb would be the same (if not faster) as 580 8gb.

Hmm, should I maybe wait for the 1160 then? I've heard rumors it may come out in the first quarter of this year.

 

Edit: that's if it launches at a similar price point as the first 1060

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12 minutes ago, Thatguywiththetoasterpc said:

Edit: that's if it launches at a similar price point as the first 1060

Unlikely :P, even if it doesnt have RTX

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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20 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Unlikely :P, even if it doesnt have RTX

Well a used 1070 or new 1060 it is, I was holding up hope thinking they would keep it down in price to complete with the Upcoming Navi based RX cards that will be dropping for the lower end users like me.

 

For the 1060 I found this: https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16814487261?ignorebbr=true&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-Mobile&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-Mobile-_-pla-_-Video+Card+-+Nvidia-_-N82E16814487261&gclsrc=aw.ds&gclid=Cj0KCQiA37HhBRC8ARIsAPWoO0wnpcyeQQ_k6b6eLQHc7Q_sb3EYjdH3Dzw27kCNwU777VxNPEpoLNwaAsttEALw_wcB

 

But I'm skeptical of EVGA after getting this turd that can barely even do it's own stock speeds. 

 

Edit: I thought the game deals might be nice, but only if the card is a good performer.

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19 minutes ago, Thatguywiththetoasterpc said:

For the 1060 I found this: https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16814487261?ignorebbr=true&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-Mobile&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-Mobile-_-pla-_-Video+Card+-+Nvidia-_-N82E16814487261&gclsrc=aw.ds&gclid=Cj0KCQiA37HhBRC8ARIsAPWoO0wnpcyeQQ_k6b6eLQHc7Q_sb3EYjdH3Dzw27kCNwU777VxNPEpoLNwaAsttEALw_wcB

 

But I'm skeptical of EVGA after getting this turd that can barely even do it's own stock speeds. 

 

Edit: I thought the game deals might be nice, but only if the card is a good performer.

the card is overpriced though, I might as well get another GPU and buy the game seperately

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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17 minutes ago, Thatguywiththetoasterpc said:

Hmm, what price point should I expect then for a 1060 or 1070? 

overpriced, as in the 1060 itself being overpriced. 1070 itself is alright, say the EVGA SC black cost just over $300 new

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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