First Time Builder for Coding/Gaming/VM's(Hacking/Kali Linux)

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($399.89 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X72 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($180.02 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ULTRA ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($238.62 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($167.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Black 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($177.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($779.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R6 Blackout TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($161.43 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full 32/64-bit  ($189.00 @ B&H)
Total: $2664.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-02 15:32 EST-0500

 

Building for the first time. Currently using Dell XPS 15 9560 w/ i7-7700HQ@2.8, 32GBDDR4-2400,GTX1050,4K screen.

Also can you please recommend a monitor for the system. Will run dual monitors, preferably 1440p, with more than 120hz.

Worth noting is I have access to Microcenter.

 

EDIT: Budget for the monitor is around $600-700.(One Monitor)

[Brooksie359]

I would either get an i9 or an 8700k. The 9700k is just a bad cpu for the price you pay. 

[Electronics Wizardy]

Why the 970 pro? Id get the evo, and the 1tb version if you can. The MLC won't help you much here and the extra space is nice.

 

Id replace the 4tb black drive with a 8tb drive. There faster(even the 5400rpm versions) and about the same space, and ahve more storage.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Why the 970 pro? Id get the evo, and the 1tb version if you can. The MLC won't help you much here and the extra space is nice.

 

Id replace the 4tb black drive with a 8tb drive. There faster(even the 5400rpm versions) and about the same space, and ahve more storage.

 

 

The MLC was pretty much the reason why I went with pro.

Replaced the SSD. Do I go with Black in the 8TB or any other?

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, netsec said:

The MLC was pretty much the reason why I went with pro.

Replaced the SSD. Do I go with Black in the 8TB or any other?

Id just get any 8tb drive. Id get one of those 8tb external drives from wd.

 

The MLC really won't help you here, your not doing that many writes.

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5 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

I would either get an i9 or an 8700k. The 9700k is just a bad cpu for the price you pay. 

I wouldn't be building for another 3-4 years and price isn't a constraint so might as well go for the i9. I would be doing more CPU intensive tasks during compiling and running tests on systems(Pen Testing) thus the 2080.

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, netsec said:

I wouldn't be building for another 3-4 years and price isn't a constraint so might as well go for the i9. I would be doing more CPU intensive tasks during compiling and running tests on systems(Pen Testing) thus the 2080.

If your not building for that much longer, don't plan now, all the parts will be different by then. Come back here when your ready to buy.

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Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

If your not building for that much longer, don't plan now, all the parts will be different by then. Come back here when your ready to buy.

Oh I meant I am building now but will be using the system for another 3-4 years

[r2724r16]

13 minutes ago, netsec said:

Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.89 @ OutletPC)

Get a Corsair RM750x instead, it's much more quiet than the G3 750W.

13 minutes ago, netsec said:

Also can you please recommend a monitor for the system. Will run dual monitors, preferably 1440p, with more than 120hz.

You haven't mentioned budget. Check out the ROG Swift PG279Q.

 

EDIT: Wait until CES 2019 (which is in two weeks) for AMD to show off their new Zen 2 chips. They're rumoured to have up to 16 cores at like 4.7GHz for only $500. 

[Morgan MLGman]

Check the particular applications that you're using, if they can leverage multicore performance then for the price of the CPU & Motherboard you picked, you can easily have a 12-core Threadripper CPU.

[GoldenLag]

Wait after CES. We will have info on Zen 2.

 

Also. For tye price you can get a threadripper system

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($548.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U14S TR4-SP3 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  ($79.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard  ($259.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Black 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($177.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card  ($698.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2299.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-02 15:53 EST-0500

[ch3w2oy]

1 hour ago, Brooksie359 said:

I would either get an i9 or an 8700k. The 9700k is just a bad cpu for the price you pay. 

I would get the 9700K over the 8700K too. Sometimes $50-100 isn't that big of a deal. Plus the 9700K is $389 on newegg with a coupon so ya, I would still go 9700K if it was within budget.

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1 hour ago, r2724r16 said:

Wait until CES 2019 (which is in two weeks) for AMD to show off their new Zen 2 chips. They're rumoured to have up to 16 cores at like 4.7GHz for only $500. 

That's sounds like something I could do. How long do you think it might take for those chips to hit the market? Also are Ryzen/Threadripper chips comparable in terms of performance.

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1 hour ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Check the particular applications that you're using, if they can leverage multicore performance then for the price of the CPU & Motherboard you picked, you can easily have a 12-core Threadripper CPU.

I use hashing/password cracking applications which can take advantage of multiple cores and in some cases I can even use the GPU to crack those hashes.

[Brooksie359]

19 minutes ago, tomswife said:

I would get the 9700K over the 8700K too. Sometimes $50-100 isn't that big of a deal. Plus the 9700K is $389 on newegg with a coupon so ya, I would still go 9700K if it was within budget.

If 50 to 100 isn't a big deal then get the i9. If not get the 8700k. The 9700k and the 8700k trade blows when both are overclocked to the same clocks. The only reason you see all the benchmarks with the 9700k with better scores is because of the faster all core turbo. 4.7ghz on the 9700k and 4.3 ghz on the 8700k so it's obvious that the 9700k is faster at stock but if you are buying either if these chips you won't be running stock. 

[ch3w2oy]

1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

If 50 to 100 isn't a big deal then get the i9. If not get the 8700k. The 9700k and the 8700k trade blows when both are overclocked to the same clocks. The only reason you see all the benchmarks with the 9700k with better scores is because of the faster all core turbo. 4.7ghz on the 9700k and 4.3 ghz on the 8700k so it's obvious that the 9700k is faster at stock but if you are buying either if these chips you won't be running stock. 

No, that doesn't mean just get the 9900K. There's no reason for the 9900K unless you need the Hyperthreading. If you want the latest and greatest the 9700K is the way to go. If I'm building a New PC, guess what? I'm using the NEWEST parts! That doesn't mean I'm getting the top of the line highest core count with hyperthreading. The 9700K is the newest best I7. Get over it.

[r2724r16]

16 minutes ago, netsec said:

How long do you think it might take for those chips to hit the market?

Maybe a month or two. I'm really not sure tbh. But it's worth the wait IMO.

17 minutes ago, netsec said:

Also are Ryzen/Threadripper chips comparable in terms of performance.

Current Ryzen/Threadripper chips have IPC than Intel's offerings atm. Might change once Zen 2 chips are relased.

[Brooksie359]

25 minutes ago, tomswife said:

No, that doesn't mean just get the 9900K. There's no reason for the 9900K unless you need the Hyperthreading. If you want the latest and greatest the 9700K is the way to go. If I'm building a New PC, guess what? I'm using the NEWEST parts! That doesn't mean I'm getting the top of the line highest core count with hyperthreading. The 9700K is the newest best I7. Get over it.

The 9700k gets beat by the 8700k in blender even when both are at stock.... 

The best is the 9900k and the 9700k is just a crap i7 that will be outdated much earlier due to the lack of hyperthreading. 

[ch3w2oy]

11 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

The 9700k gets beat by the 8700k in blender even when both are at stock.... 

The best is the 9900k and the 9700k is just a crap i7 that will be outdated much earlier due to the lack of hyperthreading. 

Im pretty sure when it comes down to it, both are more than capable. Sorry if I seemed rude. 

 

I was just trying to say the price difference doesn't justify going with the 8700k, for me. They're both $300 something in the US. I shouldn't have said $50 to 100 doesn't matter, lol. If it's over  a $50 difference then I'd say it's probably not worth it for the average user. 

 

[Brooksie359]

3 minutes ago, tomswife said:

Im pretty sure when it comes down to it, both are more than capable. Sorry if I seemed rude. 

 

I was just trying to say the price difference doesn't justify going with the 8700k, for me. They're both $300 something in the US. I shouldn't have said $50 to 100 doesn't matter, lol. If it's over  a $50 difference then I'd say it's probably not worth it for the average user. 

 

Yeah it's a $50 difference where I am so it makes little sense if you plan on overclocking.