Simple SSD question.

[okeE]

I am not into you know parts of the computer, but one of my friends "dont know if he right but". He said that if you have for example 500gb SSD and you have 50gb of games on it. If you reinstall your windows before deleting these 50gb of games you will lose 50gb of the SSD and it will become 450gb is that true ? I am asking because now i have ssd and i want to know more about this.                                                                                                  p.s sorry if i angry someone cuz of my lacking knowledge.

[dizmo]

No, that's not how it works.

[WereCatf]

2 minutes ago, okeE said:

He said that if you have for example 500gb SSD and you have 50gb of games on it. If you reinstall your windows before deleting these 50gb of games you will lose 50gb of the SSD and it will become 450gb is that true ?

I'm going to go on a limb here and assume your friend is an idiot. No, it doesn't work like that.

[okeE]

Just now, dizmo said:

No, that's not how it works.

I am really thankful to hear that.

[okeE]

1 minute ago, WereCatf said:

I'm going to go on a limb here and assume your friend is an idiot. No, it doesn't work like that.

I am an idiot too, to belive him but its my first time having ssd

[WereCatf]

Just now, okeE said:

I am an idiot too, to belive him but its my first time having ssd

I'm classifying you as inexperienced; you knew that you don't really know these things and instead of just believing everything you were told, you went online and asked. That doesn't make you an idiot, asking when you don't know is always a good thing.

[Origami Cactus]

Just now, okeE said:

I am an idiot too, to belive him but its my first time having ssd

It is just like a harddrive. If you format the drive then all the cells get marked as empty and you get your full capacity back. Also it is always a first time for something, so no worries.

 

[okeE]

Just now, WereCatf said:

I'm classifying you as inexperienced; you knew that you don't really know these things and instead of just believing everything you were told, you went online and asked. That doesn't make you an idiot, asking when you don't know is always a good thing.

Thank you, really.

[TechyBen]

The SSD has to erase each old file/folder/data as it goes. So you are partially right. Basically you remembered an car has 2 wheels, and forgot the other 2, so your car falls over. XD

 

The SSD will take some time to delete that 50GB *properly* when you start installing/using the new windows. This will slow it down a little on good drives, or a lot on cheap/rubbish drives.

 

A HDD does not need to "erase" data as it can write over it (it is magnetic, so it just magnatises the disk again). An SSD uses a process that has to write, erase, write again. So whenever you "delete" something, it has to spend time clearing out it's chip memory. Most drives do this when you are not using the computer, but leave it on (so watching Youtube or doing homework). But if you used the computer all the time, it would have to slow down and erase deleted stuff while you are using it.

[okeE]

Just now, Origami Cactus said:

It is just like a harddrive. If you format the drive then all the cells get marked as empty and you get your full capacity back. Also it is always a first time for something, so no worries.

 

That is why i love this site and people in it. Legit site, nice people, explaining really nice and on the top of all its an instant reply. I love you guys.

[TechyBen]

3 minutes ago, okeE said:

That is why i love this site and people in it. Legit site, nice people, explaining really nice and on the top of all its an instant reply. I love you guys.

PS, Linus Tech Tips POHWAH!!!

(Overprovisioning has an impact on TRIM, but is only part of it... oh, and they also mention "garbage collection".)

 

 

[okeE]

Just now, TechyBen said:

The SSD has to erase each old file/folder/data as it goes. So you are partially right. Basically you remembered an car has 2 wheels, and forgot the other 2, so your car falls over. XD

 

The SSD will take some time to delete that 50GB *properly* when you start installing/using the new windows. This will slow it down a little on good drives, or a lot on cheap/rubbish drives.

 

A HDD does not need to "erase" data as it can write over it (it is magnetic, so it just magnatises the disk again). An SSD uses a process that has to write, erase, write again. So whenever you "delete" something, it has to spend time clearing out it's chip memory. Most drives do this when you are not using the computer, but leave it on (so watching Youtube or doing homework). But if you used the computer all the time, it would have to slow down and erase deleted stuff while you are using it.

samsung 970 evo 500gb Is this ssd a good one or q.q ?

[TechyBen]

3 minutes ago, okeE said:

samsung 970 evo 500gb Is this ssd a good one or q.q ?

Very nice one!

My Samsung 250 drives and 1TB drive performs really well. You should never notice Garbage Collection/TRIM/erasure as a home user, because they work so fast. Even when Linus/TomsHardware checks them, they get like around 30% slower when really pushed to the limit. So game installs and everyday use should run at 100% speed.

 

Instal the Samsung Magician for it, and it will tell you how well the drive is performing. You don't need to change anything. But can use the "performance optimisation" which I think just does the TRIM/file balancing when you click it, instead of it waiting until the PC is not being used.

[okeE]

7 minutes ago, TechyBen said:

Very nice one!

My Samsung 250 drives and 1TB drive performs really well. You should never notice Garbage Collection/TRIM/erasure as a home user, because they work so fast. Even when Linus/TomsHardware checks them, they get like around 30% slower when really pushed to the limit. So game installs and everyday use should run at 100% speed.

 

Instal the Samsung Magician for it, and it will tell you how well the drive is performing. You don't need to change anything. But can use the "performance optimisation" which I think just does the TRIM/file balancing when you click it, instead of it waiting until the PC is not being used.

Now i am looking for Samsung Magician but i cant find 970 evo i only find 960 pro and evo is it possible to not have like 970. Or if i made a mistake and i have 960 evo and not 970?

 

[TechyBen]

14 minutes ago, okeE said:

Now i am looking for Samsung Magician but i cant find 970 evo i only find 960 pro and evo is it possible to not have like 970. Or if i made a mistake and i have 960 evo and not 970?

 

AFAIK it's the same software for the entire lot.

https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools/