CM Evo 212 question

[vjizzle2384]

Would it be better to Replace my fan on my Cooler Master Evo 212 with a NF-A1 or buy a NH-D15 instead.  Needtjr best value for the money and performance.

[bitsandpieces]

Do you have issues with the CPU temps, then yes

[Jurrunio]

neither, $50 coolers like the Thermalright Macho Rev.B or Scythe Mugen 5 / Ninja 5 is better.

[vjizzle2384]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

neither, $50 coolers like the Thermalright Macho Rev.B or Scythe Mugen 5 / Ninja 5 is better.

No problem with temps just want a better cooler ur sayimg Noctua Cooler are not good.  My CPU is R5 2600x.

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, vjizzle2384 said:

No problem with temps just want a better cooler ur sayimg Noctua Cooler are not good.  My CPU is R5 2600x.

Noctua coolers are good in performance, but not so good value just like any other premium product.

[Defyant]

It's the HS in HSF that lets you down on the 212... ive swapped to a PP setup with 2 x 120 LL's on my evo 212 and still not much better than the stock fan...

 

I tried  some ML's in PP and solo as well and exact same temps as the LL's and no quieter...... air over metal etc...

 

Just upgrade.

[LogicalDrm]

8 hours ago, vjizzle2384 said:

No problem with temps just want a better cooler ur sayimg Noctua Cooler are not good.  My CPU is R5 2600x.

Its not about that. Its more about performance/price and what you can even fit. Your case has 160mm height limit for which D15 is bit too tall with normal fans. D15S with single 120mm fan will fit there. Changing fan on 212 won't do much for your cooling performance, but can lower noise.

[vjizzle2384]

7 hours ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

Its not about that. Its more about performance/price and what you can even fit. Your case has 160mm height limit for which D15 is bit too tall with normal fans. D15S with single 120mm fan will fit there. Changing fan on 212 won't do much for your cooling performance, but can lower noise.

I measured it last night and it was 168mm from MOBO to glass.  I just want a better cooler, air or water what ever is best.

[LogicalDrm]

1 hour ago, vjizzle2384 said:

I measured it last night and it was 168mm from MOBO to glass.  I just want a better cooler, air or water what ever is best.

The distance is from top of CPU to glass. Its some 3-5mm difference, just as noted in this review for example. U14S is 167mm tall. So you may have few mm extra there, but not enough to fit D15 with A15 fan (total height is 165mm if memory serves). Thats not to say that there aren't any bigger coolers for you. Just that D15 isn't one of them.

[vjizzle2384]

2 hours ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

The distance is from top of CPU to glass. Its some 3-5mm difference, just as noted in this review for example. U14S is 167mm tall. So you may have few mm extra there, but not enough to fit D15 with A15 fan (total height is 165mm if memory serves). Thats not to say that there aren't any bigger coolers for you. Just that D15 isn't one of them.

 I love my case but grrr cooler height sux 

[vjizzle2384]

2 hours ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

The distance is from top of CPU to glass. Its some 3-5mm difference, just as noted in this review for example. U14S is 167mm tall. So you may have few mm extra there, but not enough to fit D15 with A15 fan (total height is 165mm if memory serves). Thats not to say that there aren't any bigger coolers for you. Just that D15 isn't one of them.

SO I read the whole review thank you first but I don't think this person really measured right this his quote

 

"It does not have enough depth to mount large 140mm CPU coolers so they’ll look elsewhere"

 

which is crap I have a Cooler Master 212 Evo and it's height is 158 mm and I have still like 5-8mm gap from the top tip of the copper pipe on the cooler to the glass.

[WoodenMarker]

On 12/4/2018 at 9:31 PM, vjizzle2384 said:

No problem with temps just want a better cooler ur sayimg Noctua Cooler are not good.  My CPU is R5 2600x.

Better in what way? Is the current cooler too noisy? 

7 hours ago, vjizzle2384 said:

 I love my case but grrr cooler height sux 

What case?

[LogicalDrm]

10 hours ago, vjizzle2384 said:

SO I read the whole review thank you first but I don't think this person really measured right this his quote

 

"It does not have enough depth to mount large 140mm CPU coolers so they’ll look elsewhere"

 

which is crap I have a Cooler Master 212 Evo and it's height is 158 mm and I have still like 5-8mm gap from the top tip of the copper pipe on the cooler to the glass.

 

I can't find anything confirming that, but hey, its your money. And if you live in consumer-friendly place, you can return cooler if it doesn't fit. Or remove A15 fan.

 

2 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

Better in what way? Is the current cooler too noisy? 

What case?

He has CM MB500 (said in sig).

[vjizzle2384]

12 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

Better in what way? Is the current cooler too noisy? 

What case?

Cooler Master MB500 http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mid-tower/masterbox-mb500/ 

[WoodenMarker]

You mentioned you want a better cooler despite having no problem with temps. Better in what way? Is the current cooler too noisy? 

[fuh737]

On 12/5/2018 at 2:28 PM, Jurrunio said:

neither, $50 coolers like the Thermalright Macho Rev.B or Scythe Mugen 5 / Ninja 5 is better.

I personally use Mugen 5. Quite a good price per performance I might say.

[vjizzle2384]

10 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

You mentioned you want a better cooler despite having no problem with temps. Better in what way? Is the current cooler too noisy? 

No nothing is wrong with it but I want to a better in looks as while as performance. Am going to OC sometime so I need a water or air cooler.  My budget is 100$ maybe $120.

 

I have the R5 2600x CPU with my x470 gigabyte gaming 7.  

 

Temps idle 30c to 43c (jumps here and there to 40c-43c, which is normal as one CPU jumps up in Ghz)

 

Gaming at 1080p temps 56c to 68c 

 

[WoodenMarker]

5 minutes ago, vjizzle2384 said:

No nothing is wrong with it but I want to a better in looks as while as performance. Am going to OC sometime so I need a water or air cooler.  My budget is 100$ maybe $120.

I have the R5 2600x CPU with my x470 gigabyte gaming 7.  

Temps idle 30c to 43c (jumps here and there to 40c-43c, which is normal as one CPU jumps up in Ghz)

Gaming at 1080p temps 56c to 68c 

What kind of look are you going for?

Have you tried oc'ing with the 212 Evo?

[vjizzle2384]

10 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

What kind of look are you going for?

Have you tried oc'ing with the 212 Evo?

Water or air I don’t care,  need something that will work great.  No I will not try to OC with 212 as it’s known not to do good.  

 

LED be nice but grey or black is need as color 

[WoodenMarker]

Just now, vjizzle2384 said:

Water or air I don’t care,  need something that will work great.  No I will not try to OC with 212 as it’s known not to do good.  

LED be nice but grey or black is need as color 

Reputation of the cooler doesn't mean anything. Look at your temps instead. As long as there's thermal headroom, it doesn't matter what cooler you're using for oc'ing. 

I'm not sure if grey includes silver. If yes, the Fuma Rev. B is good: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ffKhP6/scythe-fuma-revb-790-cfm-cpu-cooler-scfm-1100

Otherwise, the LGMRT costs more but performs a bit better while being quieter: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8rcCJ/thermalright-cpu-cooler-legrandmachort

[vjizzle2384]

26 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

Reputation of the cooler doesn't mean anything. Look at your temps instead. As long as there's thermal headroom, it doesn't matter what cooler you're using for oc'ing. 

I'm not sure if grey includes silver. If yes, the Fuma Rev. B is good: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ffKhP6/scythe-fuma-revb-790-cfm-cpu-cooler-scfm-1100

Otherwise, the LGMRT costs more but performs a bit better while being quieter: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8rcCJ/thermalright-cpu-cooler-legrandmachort

Are those 2 better the dual tower coolers 

[WoodenMarker]

1 minute ago, vjizzle2384 said:

Are those 2 better the dual tower coolers 

Are you asking if they're better? The first one is a dual tower cooler and the second one is even better. 

If you're asking about relative performance, there's a tier list pinned at the top of the subforum.

 

[Zando_]

If the R5 2600X is anything like the 2700X, manually overclocking it is useless unless you're purely going for the best multicore performance. If you're gaming on it just let the boost do it's thing, it clocks single cores higher than you can clock all the cores manually, and single core perf is what gives you the edge in most games once you have 6 threads/cores or more. From all my googling on it most people say not to overclock the X series chips manually for this reason. There's tips on how to tweak it so it'll boost itself higher, but a manual OC usually hurts the single core and thus gaming performance.

[vjizzle2384]

44 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

If the R5 2600X is anything like the 2700X, manually overclocking it is useless unless you're purely going for the best multicore performance. If you're gaming on it just let the boost do it's thing, it clocks single cores higher than you can clock all the cores manually, and single core perf is what gives you the edge in most games once you have 6 threads/cores or more. From all my googling on it most people say not to overclock the X series chips manually for this reason. There's tips on how to tweak it so it'll boost itself higher, but a manual OC usually hurts the single core and thus gaming performance.

I love the way my CPU clocks itself I never have a problem with gaming. the problem is when I was building the system People were Complaining that my cooler will run my PC hot and wont work good.  

 

I listed my temperature is above I don’t know if they’re good or bad or decent.  

 

[Zando_]

15 minutes ago, vjizzle2384 said:

I love the way my CPU clocks itself I never have a problem with gaming. the problem is when I was building the system People were Complaining that my cooler will run my PC hot and wont work good.  

 

I listed my temperature is above I don’t know if they’re good or bad or decent.  

 

anything below 60C under full load on air is pretty darn good, staying in the 40s is excellent. You only worry about heat once you get over 80C regularly, and take steps to fix it if you're hitting 85-90 all the time and aren't comfortable with that.