New gaming rig, help wanted!

[Malmern]

I'm currently on a 6y old system,
looking to upgrade because my system is currently failing.

I mainly need help picking out a CPU, GPU, motherboard and Free/G-Sync monitor.

The rig must be able to achieve 144hz, 1440p on high to ultra settings on modern games.

My budget is $1500 - 2000.
 

[r2724r16]

6 minutes ago, Malmern said:

The rig must be able to achieve 144hz, 1440p on high to ultra settings on modern games.

Fortnite and BFV are both modern games, but completely different in terms of how demanding they are on a GPU. What games will you be playing?

[brob]

Parts in Norway tend to be more expensive than the US. Does the given budget take this into account.

[Spotty]

2 hours ago, Malmern said:

The rig must be able to achieve 144hz, 1440p on high to ultra settings on modern games.

For 1440p 144hz you should be looking at a system with a GTX 1080Ti or higher (RTX 2080/2080ti). Given your budget of $1500-$2000 (USD?), you should check the used market and see what 1080tis you can find.

 

Since you're in Norway and prices will be higher and will have additional taxes, I'll try and aim for the lower end of the budget of $1500 USD to account for that.

 

Should be able to work an i7 8700 which will be good for high FPS gaming in to the budget if you can get a good price on a used 1080ti.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor	$319.99 @ Newegg Business
Motherboard	ASRock - Fatal1ty B360 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$98.88 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$119.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$72.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$44.85 @ OutletPC
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11 GB FTW3 GAMING iCX Video Card	$804.98 @ Newegg Business
Case	NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$64.99 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$59.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1606.56
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1586.56
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-04 22:22 EST-0500

 

 

Those price lists are based off US store prices in USD, so if anything is unavailable in Norway or is more expensive than it should be, let me know and I'll see what else I can find, but you should be able to use them as a starting guide for what to look for when shopping.

Depending what is available in your area, you may have to look for different cases, and you may find some better prices on some PSUs that have better availability in Europe, such as the Be Quiet Straight Power PSUs.

[Malmern]

34 minutes ago, Spotty said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor	$319.99 @ Newegg Business
Motherboard	ASRock - Fatal1ty B360 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$98.88 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$119.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$72.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$44.85 @ OutletPC
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11 GB FTW3 GAMING iCX Video Card	$804.98 @ Newegg Business
Case	NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$64.99 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$59.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1606.56
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1586.56
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-04 22:22 EST-0500

First of all,

thanks for all the replies!

Unfortunately,

the prices in Norway were way over the ones listed here.

i7-8700 : $469.46
B360 Motherboard: $114.33
Memory: $166.37
Samsung 860 Evo: $110.36
WD Caviar: $52.83
1080Ti: $998.92
NZXT H500: $90.48
Corsair RMx 550W: $112.83
A grand total of $2115.58

Almost all the parts were from one store for convenience (They are near me and have a pick-up point),
I was able to squeeze it down to $2062.67 by choosing multiple stores,
however the extra delivery costs will probably eat up most of the difference.

[brob]

What is the pricing like for Ryzen 7 2700X and 2700 cpu?

[Spotty]

6 minutes ago, Malmern said:

Unfortunately,

the prices in Norway were way over the ones listed here.

i7-8700 : $469.46
B360 Motherboard: $114.33
Memory: $166.37
Samsung 860 Evo: $110.36
WD Caviar: $52.83
1080Ti: $998.92
NZXT H500: $90.48
Corsair RMx 550W: $112.83
A grand total of $2115.58

Almost all the parts were from one store for convenience (They are near me and have a pick-up point),

Ah, damn. I feared that might be the case. Though once you take tax in to consideration some of those prices like the motherboard and HDD seem pretty reasonable, others however like the CPU and GPU add a fair bit to the budget, and you could probably get cheaper cases and PSUs depending what they have available.

Do you have a link to the store you're buying from? Even if it isn't in English I could probably have a look through and see what they have available and get an idea what prices are like, worst case scenario using Google Translator. Might be able to come up with something for you then.

[Malmern]

5 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Ah, damn. I feared that might be the case. Though once you take tax in to consideration some of those prices like the motherboard and HDD seem pretty reasonable, others however like the CPU and GPU add a fair bit to the budget, and you could probably get cheaper cases and PSUs depending what they have available.

Do you have a link to the store you're buying from? Even if it isn't in English I could probably have a look through and see what they have available and get an idea what prices are like, worst case scenario using Google Translator. Might be able to come up with something for you then.

https://www.komplett.no/category/28003/datautstyr/pc-komponenter

[brob]

I don't think the specs can be fully satisfied with a budget of ~17000 NOK

[Spotty]

21 minutes ago, Malmern said:

https://www.komplett.no/category/28003/datautstyr/pc-komponenter

Having a look through now. Putting together a list but bare with me a bit taking a little while. Really want to try and fit in the i7 8700 for the high refresh rate but might have to go with an i5 8600 instead... Not sure if the Ryzen 2600/2700 is going to perform as well in some games when aiming for that 144fps (I actually don't know, if anyone has any thoughts let me know)

[brob]

1 minute ago, Spotty said:

Having a look through now. Putting together a list but bare with me a bit taking a little while. Really want to try and fit in the i7 8700 for the high refresh rate but might have to go with an i5 8600 instead... Not sure if the Ryzen 2600/2700 is going to perform as well in some games when aiming for that 144fps (I actually don't know, if anyone has any thoughts let me know)

A 2700 overclocked or 2700X should be fine.

[Spotty]

1 minute ago, brob said:

A 2700 overclocked or 2700X should be fine.

i5 8600** vs 2700, which would you pick for high refresh rate gaming? They both appear to work out roughly the same price with motherboards.
(**Not much point with the K series 8600k cause having a quick look it appears you end up spending an extra 500-1000 for a Z370 motherboard over B360)

[brob]

5 minutes ago, Spotty said:

i5 8600** vs 2700, which would you pick for high refresh rate gaming? They both appear to work out roughly the same price with motherboards.
(**Not much point with the K series 8600k cause having a quick look it appears you end up spending an extra 500-1000 for a Z370 motherboard over B360)

 

If user is willing to overclock the 2700, it would be my choice. Otherwise the i5-8600 would hold a small edge in most gaming.

[Spotty]

@Malmern Sorry it took so long, had to duck out for a bit...
Did a Ryzen and Intel build. If you can find a 2nd hand 1080ti for sale, you should be able to save a fair bit on the budget, and you might be able to fit in an i7 8700 in to the build. Keep in mind if you already have things like a HDD you are planning on using you can remove that from the list to save a bit.

 

Keep in mind neither of these builds includes a license for windows, so if you need a key you will need to factor that in to the cost. Hopefully the prices shown include tax, otherwise it's going to be way over budget again.

Quote

	INTEL BUILD
CPU	Intel Core i5 8600	2690	https://www.komplett.no/product/975992/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/prosessorer/intel-core-i5-8600-prosessor#
Motherboard	Asus Strix B360-F	1349	https://www.komplett.no/product/1003820/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/hovedkort/intel-socket/asus-rog-strix-b360-f-gaming-s-1151#
RAM	Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3000MHZ 16GB (2x8GB)	1463	https://www.komplett.no/product/1077918/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/minnebrikker/corsair-vengeance-lpx-ddr4-3000mhz-16gb#
Graphics Card	MSI Duke RTX2080	8790	https://www.komplett.no/product/1090734/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/skjermkort/msi-geforce-rtx-2080-duke-oc
PSU	Seasonic Focus+ Gold 550W	995	https://www.komplett.no/product/959103/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/stroemforsyning/enheter/seasonic-focus-550w-80-gold-psu
Case	Fractal Design Focus G	500	https://www.komplett.no/product/944350/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/kabinetterbarebone/midi-tower/fractal-design-focus-g-graa-mid-tower
SSD	Samsung 860 Evo 250GB	615	https://www.komplett.no/product/975804/datautstyr/lagring/harddiskerssd/ssd-25/samsung-860-evo-250gb-ssd
HDD	Seagate Barracuda 1TB	448	https://www.komplett.no/product/898949/datautstyr/lagring/harddiskerssd/harddisk-35/seagate-barracuda-1tb-35-hdd
CPU Cooler	Stock	0
Total		16850

 

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	AMD RYZEN BUILD
CPU	Ryzen 2700	2949	https://www.komplett.no/product/993768/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/prosessorer/amd-ryzen-7-2700-prosessor
Motherboard	MSI B450 Tomahawk	1190	https://www.komplett.no/product/993768/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/prosessorer/amd-ryzen-7-2700-prosessor
RAM	Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3000MHZ 16GB (2x8GB)	1463	https://www.komplett.no/product/1077918/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/minnebrikker/corsair-vengeance-lpx-ddr4-3000mhz-16gb#
Graphics Card	MSI Duke RTX2080	8790	https://www.komplett.no/product/1090734/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/skjermkort/msi-geforce-rtx-2080-duke-oc
PSU	Seasonic Focus+ Gold 550W	995	https://www.komplett.no/product/959103/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/stroemforsyning/enheter/seasonic-focus-550w-80-gold-psu
Case	Fractal Design Focus G	500	https://www.komplett.no/product/944350/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/kabinetterbarebone/midi-tower/fractal-design-focus-g-graa-mid-tower
SSD	Samsung 860 Evo 250GB	615	https://www.komplett.no/product/975804/datautstyr/lagring/harddiskerssd/ssd-25/samsung-860-evo-250gb-ssd
HDD	Seagate Barracuda 1TB	448	https://www.komplett.no/product/898949/datautstyr/lagring/harddiskerssd/harddisk-35/seagate-barracuda-1tb-35-hdd
CPU Cooler	Stock	0
Total		16950

 

[Malmern]

29 minutes ago, Spotty said:

@Malmern Sorry it took so long, had to duck out for a bit...
Did a Ryzen and Intel build. If you can find a 2nd hand 1080ti for sale, you should be able to save a fair bit on the budget, and you might be able to fit in an i7 8700 in to the build. Keep in mind if you already have things like a HDD you are planning on using you can remove that from the list to save a bit.

 

Keep in mind neither of these builds includes a license for windows, so if you need a key you will need to factor that in to the cost. Hopefully the prices shown include tax, otherwise it's going to be way over budget again.

Awesome,
thanks for taking the time to reply to my thread and creating not one, but two (!) solid builds!

This has given me something to think about for a couple of days.

I'm definitely leaning towards the Intel build.

I might decide to split up the purchase of my new computer to be able to afford some upgrades like i7 8700,
and maybe even a better CPU cooler.

[Spotty]

5 minutes ago, Malmern said:

I might decide to split up the purchase of my new computer to be able to afford some upgrades like i7 8700,
and maybe even a better CPU cooler.

If you're going with the i7 8700 then a better CPU cooler would help a lot.

 

5 hours ago, Malmern said:

I mainly need help picking out a CPU, GPU, motherboard and Free/G-Sync monitor.
The rig must be able to achieve 144hz, 1440p on high to ultra settings on modern games.

Did the $2000 budget need to include the monitor as well? My lists didn't include the 1440p 144hz monitor, so you will need to factor that in to the cost of the build as well. Unfortunately it seems you're not going to be able to fit both a 1440p 144hz monitor and the system needed to run it in $2000. A 1440p 144hz Gsync/Freesync monitor will cost between 500-800 USD on top of the cost of the system.
If you already have a 1080p 60hz panel then you could use that for now and upgrade the monitor later after saving up?

[Malmern]

11 minutes ago, Spotty said:

If you're going with the i7 8700 then a better CPU cooler would help a lot.

 

Did the $2000 budget need to include the monitor as well? My lists didn't include the 1440p 144hz monitor, so you will need to factor that in to the cost of the build as well. Unfortunately it seems you're not going to be able to fit both a 1440p 144hz monitor and the system needed to run it in $2000. A 1440p 144hz Gsync/Freesync monitor will cost between 500-800 USD on top of the cost of the system.
If you already have a 1080p 60hz panel then you could use that for now and upgrade the monitor later after saving up?

I have a separate budget for monitor, $600 - 700.

[Sahl]

9 hours ago, Malmern said:

I'm currently on a 6y old system,
looking to upgrade because my system is currently failing.

I mainly need help picking out a CPU, GPU, motherboard and Free/G-Sync monitor.

The rig must be able to achieve 144hz, 1440p on high to ultra settings on modern games.

My budget is $1500 - 2000.
 

I've undergone the same journey as you are about to take recently. Most modern game are very different in terms of what kinda performance they need. As someone else specified BFV and Fortnite or Heart of Iron 4 (the latter is very CPU demanding)

I see you are from Norway and I recently bought a PC from komplett excluding alot of parts to put in myself such as the GPU.

 

I went from an old budget pc build that was 5 years old to a 3000 USD build and the biggest difference for me are actually the monitor! I can recommend albeit its very expenssive https://www.komplett.no/product/858037/gaming/gamingskjermer/asus-27-led-g-sync-rog-swift-pg279q#

I have had no ghosting, no backlight bleed, no dead pixels, etc. Its been a whole new exprience playing BFV "it came free with the 2080 I got"

 

As for the ultra settings debate, often its just a waste of FPS in most cases. You should in my opinion strive for very high settings instead and if you most then just put textures on Ultra (but I seriously can see no difference in IE BFV other than FPS hit)

 

My recommendation for a 17000 max Norwegian pc to heed Spotty's advice on the Ryzen build, I have tried to make a few builds myself and they end up near the same as him. You can easily tweak case/psu/even GPU if you have other stuff you like better, but its a good base.

I know the monitor is abit above the 800 usd budget you picked for that section, but if you really want the best exprience for gaming then that is the only I would recommend along with the Acer counterpart (since I have the Asus I can only talk about that one)

 

Hopefully you can use all the good advice from the others and abit from me. One thing is certain I will never complain about Danish prices on hardware after looking on the Norwegian prices. Those are much worse than what I got. Its hard for us Scandinavians to actually get cheap hardware.

[Malmern]

Just out of curiosity,
is it worth investing another $455 to get a 2080Ti instead of a 2080?

I might be able to borrow some money from a family member if the upgrade is worth the extra $.

[brob]

Not to play at 1440.